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    I figure this deserves its own thread  rather than hijack the kid with the Maga hat thread. For those of you you hate Trump so much you believe the private citizens should not be allowed to defend their homes. Let me ask you.

    So let's pretend it was your home and the Klan was marching down your street. Let's assume for the sake of conversation the Klan has previously conducted dozens of protests destroying millions upon millions of dollars and killing dozens of people. Just like BLM.

    Now let's say that the Klan marched up on your property. Screaming obscenities. (Yes your property a gated community it's not a public sidewalk.) Would you have tried to defend your property? (Or if it were skinheads marching down the street had a black man stood outside his business holding a rifle hearing that you were about to do him harm?)

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      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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        Woody would lay down like a bitch.

        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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          Woody would lay down like a bitch.

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          KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
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          @diehardbrownsfan said:

          Woody would lay down like a bitch.

          Holding a jar of lube

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            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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            And their perfect trigger discipline

            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              And their perfect trigger discipline

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              hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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              @mld-woody said:

              And their perfect trigger discipline

              How many did they shoot?

              guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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                And their perfect trigger discipline

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                VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
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                @mld-woody said:

                And their perfect trigger discipline

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                  W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                  Again BLM has destroyed Millions upon millions of dollars worth of private property and killed dozens of people. And in this gated community it's all private property. And quote-unquote protesters were screaming obscenities. Honestly can anyone give me a rational reason to not try to defend yourself? Or fear for your life and safety?

                  I'm not even insulting anybody just asking for a reasonable response?

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                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                    I don't believe they should have gone outside. In Ohio, you can NOT use deadly force to

                    defend property. Only immediate danger to your life, or other's lives.....immediate lethal threat..to be murdered, or badly injured.

                    They should have stayed in their home, my opinion, and if one protester home invaded... then given a Castle Law, it is considered

                    legal to defend oneself with a gun.

                    Pepper spray for anything else as a threat.

                    I like what an attorney was saying...what was his rule.

                    think of it this way:

                    Would I rather be prosecuted? OR have some protester throw a potato at me?

                    would I rather be prosecuted? OR, have some nasty stinking protester screaming in my ear?

                    etc.

                    If that guy in Las Vegas that night - if he had charged me with no weapon....I couldn't use my gun.

                    (hence the Krav Maga training)

                    had he pulled out some homemade knife and come at me, sure, I would shoot him if I had time to draw my gun.

                    The threats from the crowd was not an eminent threat, not immediate. Now, open carry of their guns outside is okay,

                    but I don't get the raising of the guns. The protesters were not anywhere near enough to consider the "21 foot rule".

                    Just my opinion. Sometimes I think I should have been a civil rights attorney - specializing in the 1st and 2nd Amendment.

                    But then again, maybe my life wouldn't have been so blessed, eh? The same for not going into the OSI in the AF.

                    I was taught, btw, that when you ever HAVE to use your gun.... regardless of the facts, your life will never be the same.

                    Especially bogus civil lawsuits with no merit at all. But there are always some nasty scumbags that will still try to "win the lottery".

                    That is also something to consider.

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                      https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/24/what-will-you-do-when-the-mob-shows-up-at-your-fro/?fbclid=IwAR3Jevuv4kteyvYvBCeJBz74EEtev7Cy2i1EDnFSuX_Gw7fyMu4bJGz7E-A

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                        JAFBFJ JAFBF wrote on last edited by
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                        WSS was looking for this in another thread.

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                        Looks like a rifle to me (guy with Red bag).

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                        View from inside the property looking out to street.

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                        Entry view - here the gate has been put back up and chained to hold it together.

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                          https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/24/what-will-you-do-when-the-mob-shows-up-at-your-fro/?fbclid=IwAR3Jevuv4kteyvYvBCeJBz74EEtev7Cy2i1EDnFSuX_Gw7fyMu4bJGz7E-A

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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                          @westside-steve said:

                          https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/24/what-will-you-do-when-the-mob-shows-up-at-your-fro/?fbclid=IwAR3Jevuv4kteyvYvBCeJBz74EEtev7Cy2i1EDnFSuX_Gw7fyMu4bJGz7E-A

                          excellent article. It's seriously concerning that the dems are happy to encourage mob rule by intimidation and fear. If it helps them get the power they want...

                              they embrace it. Historically, until they GET the permanent power they want, then they have no use for the "blackshirts".

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                            WSS was looking for this in another thread.

                            image.thumb.jpeg.f15924abdc1bae875ad76b3c19b37166.jpeg

                            Looks like a rifle to me (guy with Red bag).

                            image.jpeg.c95171fd87dc936541d8aac6244e9def.jpeg

                            View from inside the property looking out to street.

                            image.thumb.jpeg.bc8890c521dde6f5ecf5bdef9628bb07.jpeg

                            Entry view - here the gate has been put back up and chained to hold it together.

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            @jafbf said:

                            WSS was looking for this in another thread.

                            image.thumb.jpeg.f15924abdc1bae875ad76b3c19b37166.jpeg

                            Looks like a rifle to me (guy with Red bag)

                            That's a rifle?

                            I'm not super well versed in guns. I could be wrong 

                            It looks like there's some monitor on the front. 

                            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                              @jafbf said:

                              WSS was looking for this in another thread.

                              image.thumb.jpeg.f15924abdc1bae875ad76b3c19b37166.jpeg

                              Looks like a rifle to me (guy with Red bag)

                              That's a rifle?

                              I'm not super well versed in guns. I could be wrong 

                              It looks like there's some monitor on the front. 

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                              @mld-woody said:

                              That's a rifle?

                              I'm not super well versed in guns. I could be wrong 

                              It looks like there's some monitor on the front. 

                              it could be a microphone?

                              the closest I can find so far, maybe it's a stripped down (lighter weight)

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                                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                                Thanks to JAF for finding that pic - I've seen it on TV...

                                maybe a long distance microphone -

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                                  @jafbf said:

                                  WSS was looking for this in another thread.

                                  image.thumb.jpeg.f15924abdc1bae875ad76b3c19b37166.jpeg

                                  Looks like a rifle to me (guy with Red bag)

                                  That's a rifle?

                                  I'm not super well versed in guns. I could be wrong 

                                  It looks like there's some monitor on the front. 

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                                  W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  That's a rifle?

                                  I'm not super well versed in guns. I could be wrong 

                                  It looks like there's some monitor on the front. 

                                  Actually if he's taking video it could be a higher-end shotgun mic.

                                  They are for long-range recording and they could look like that.

                                  Still even you guys who hate people who defend their homes have to admit it could easily be mistaken for a gun.

                                  Not that it matters because the peaceful demonstrators have already broken down the gates to the private community.

                                  No doubt their GPS was just mistaken about the location of the mayor's office.

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                                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                    It definitely is a shotgun mic like Steve said

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                                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                      I figure this deserves its own thread  rather than hijack the kid with the Maga hat thread. For those of you you hate Trump so much you believe the private citizens should not be allowed to defend their homes. Let me ask you.

                                      So let's pretend it was your home and the Klan was marching down your street. Let's assume for the sake of conversation the Klan has previously conducted dozens of protests destroying millions upon millions of dollars and killing dozens of people. Just like BLM.

                                      Now let's say that the Klan marched up on your property. Screaming obscenities. (Yes your property a gated community it's not a public sidewalk.) Would you have tried to defend your property? (Or if it were skinheads marching down the street had a black man stood outside his business holding a rifle hearing that you were about to do him harm?)

                                      WSS

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                                      D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by D Bone
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                                      @westside-steve said:

                                      I figure this deserves its own thread  rather than hijack the kid with the Maga hat thread. For those of you you hate Trump so much you believe the private citizens should not be allowed to defend their homes. Let me ask you.

                                      So let's pretend it was your home and the Klan was marching down your street. Let's assume for the sake of conversation the Klan has previously conducted dozens of protests destroying millions upon millions of dollars and killing dozens of people. Just like BLM.

                                      Now let's say that the Klan marched up on your property. Screaming obscenities. (Yes your property a gated community it's not a public sidewalk.) Would you have tried to defend your property? (Or if it were skinheads marching down the street had a black man stood outside his business holding a rifle hearing that you were about to do him harm?)

                                      WSS

                                      This question was perfectly asked, yet not a single answer from anyone willing to look inside themselves to see what might be lurking deep inside.

                                      So for those that have a problem with what this couple did, I'll try it one more time to see if anyone wants to answer the question as it stands..... Who's up first??

                                      So let's pretend it was your home and the Klan was marching down your street. Let's assume for the sake of conversation the Klan has previously conducted dozens of protests destroying millions upon millions of dollars and killing dozens of people. Just like BLM.

                                      Now let's say that the Klan marched up on your property. Screaming obscenities. (Yes your property a gated community it's not a public sidewalk.) Would you have tried to defend your property? (Or if it were skinheads marching down the street had a black man stood outside his business holding a rifle hearing that you were about to do him harm?)

                                      WSS

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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        Coming out and pointing a loaded gun at people marching down the street would exacerbate the situation. 

                                        Also, where is the source for "dozens" killed? Does the vigilante kid's body count add to that number?

                                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                          It definitely is a shotgun mic like Steve said

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                                          JAFBFJ JAFBF wrote on last edited by
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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          It definitely is a shotgun mic like Steve said

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                                          Excellent find (not an exact match but damn close).

                                          I was thinking more clubs/crowbars than guns, but the end of that Mic looks like a slotted rifle barrel.

                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          Coming out and pointing a loaded gun at people marching down the street would exacerbate the situation. 

                                          Also, where is the source for "dozens" killed? Does the vigilante kid's body count add to that number?

                                          They were in the McCloskey's yard/property.

                                          The Gate was for their private walkway, there is another gated entrance for vehicles that there was no reason to post.

                                          Dozens ?

                                          I don't know, there have been quite a few though.

                                          Some were beaten to death and at least one Police Officer killed execution style which I believe was in the St. Louis area - so pretty much the McCloskey's neighborhood.

                                          Quite a few of these "protestors" are from other Country's.

                                          They snagged a few in Kenosha that were from Germany.

                                          The German BLM/Antifa (yes, they are International) are actually members of ISIS and Azov (real Nazi's).

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