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  • @texasag1969 said:

    Perhaps if it came from Fox news you might pay attention, because my worst characteristic is that I'm brutally honest. So eat shit Gorka.

    https://video.foxnews.com/v/6187942113001#sp=show-clips

    Well if Trump really said those things, I find it appalling and inexcusable. Therefore, I'm gonna man up and admit I was wrong. 

    When will you?

    @gorka said:

    Well if Trump really said those things, I find it appalling and inexcusable. Therefore, I'm gonna man up and admit I was wrong. 

    When will you?

    What is it you want me to admit I am wrong about? Then I'll think it over. Like I said you may not like what I say because I'm pretty brutally honest with what I think.

  • @hammertime said:

    Hoorta 

    your probably best to just wait after the elections to speak 

    cause you keep saying the same thing over and over....

    Yeah,  I only try to speak here when the stuff gets so out of hand I feel the need to reply- it's pretty hopeless. The surveys say 90%+ of the electorate has already made up their minds....  Arguing anything here as I've said a bunch of times is an exercise in futility.... 

    Funny thing is on the other side of the fence is it's also always the same- the  "Trump Defense Forum".....   

    @hoorta said:

    Yeah,  I only try to speak here when the stuff gets so out of hand I feel the need to reply- it's pretty hopeless. The surveys say 90%+ of the electorate has already made up their minds....  Arguing anything here as I've said a bunch of times is an exercise in futility.... 

    Funny thing is on the other side of the fence is it's also always the same- the  "Trump Defense Forum".....   

    It’s important to step away from all of this political stimulation.

    literally ,  try and set 1 to 2 days straight where you don’t look at your phone or computer 

    trump may be an ass but he loves his country.

    dont let the radical movement succeed just because folks bash you questioning things.

    there is some pure evil percolating in the Democratic agenda 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Perhaps if it came from Fox news you might pay attention, because my worst characteristic is that I'm brutally honest. So eat shit Gorka.

    https://video.foxnews.com/v/6187942113001#sp=show-clips

    Well if Trump really said those things, I find it appalling and inexcusable. Therefore, I'm gonna man up and admit I was wrong. 

    When will you?

    @gorka said:

    Well if Trump really said those things, I find it appalling and inexcusable. Therefore, I'm gonna man up and admit I was wrong. 

    When will you?

    OK, maybe Biden groped and even raped a few women.  These are inexcusable comments from a draft dodger, about people who fought and died for this country. BTW, I heard the reason he didn't want to go was because it was raining and would muss up his hair.  I would love to see a protester get close enough to give that hair a yank to see if it's real.  🙂     Just more ammunition from my side- as a commentator said "does this guy even have a conscious?   

  • @gorka said:

    Why do you lie so much?  I know why, but I'd like to hear from you why.

    Perhaps if it came from Fox news you might pay attention, because my worst characteristic is that I'm brutally honest. So eat shit Gorka.

    https://video.foxnews.com/v/6187942113001#sp=show-clips

  • @gorka said:

    Well if Trump really said those things, I find it appalling and inexcusable. Therefore, I'm gonna man up and admit I was wrong. 

    When will you?

    OK, maybe Biden groped and even raped a few women.  These are inexcusable comments from a draft dodger, about people who fought and died for this country. BTW, I heard the reason he didn't want to go was because it was raining and would muss up his hair.  I would love to see a protester get close enough to give that hair a yank to see if it's real.  🙂     Just more ammunition from my side- as a commentator said "does this guy even have a conscious?   

    @hoorta said:

    OK, maybe Biden groped and even raped a few women.  These are inexcusable comments from a draft dodger, about people who fought and died for this country. BTW, I heard the reason he didn't want to go was because it was raining and would muss up his hair.  I would love to see a protester get close enough to give that hair a yank to see if it's real.  🙂     Just more ammunition from my side- as a commentator said "does this guy even have a conscious?   

  • @hoorta said:

    Yeah,  I only try to speak here when the stuff gets so out of hand I feel the need to reply- it's pretty hopeless. The surveys say 90%+ of the electorate has already made up their minds....  Arguing anything here as I've said a bunch of times is an exercise in futility.... 

    Funny thing is on the other side of the fence is it's also always the same- the  "Trump Defense Forum".....   

    It’s important to step away from all of this political stimulation.

    literally ,  try and set 1 to 2 days straight where you don’t look at your phone or computer 

    trump may be an ass but he loves his country.

    dont let the radical movement succeed just because folks bash you questioning things.

    there is some pure evil percolating in the Democratic agenda 

    @hammertime said:

    It’s important to step away from all of this political stimulation.

    1) trump may be an ass but he loves his country.

    2) dont let the radical movement succeed just because folks bash you questioning things.

    3) there is some pure evil percolating in the Democratic agenda 

    It's so pleasant for a change to do an exchange with someone, and not have to deal with vitriol....  I'M RIGHT!!! NO, I'M RIGHTER!!!!  

    My 0.02....  

    1) He certainly acts like he does, but I question his sincerity about that- and a bunch of other stuff.... 

    2) The Squad can go to hell, they don't represent my viewpoint- and if the paranoids here would be willing to admit it- they don't represent the views of  a lot of Democrats, either.  

    3) I wouldn't doubt it- but you at least have to try and see it from the other side also- a lot of people see Trump as pure evil, (90% from my viewpoint) and aren't going to vote for him, on that basis alone. I won't do it- yet. OK, I will- in part... At the risk of being railed against as nut job.... But it's real easy to take the Bible's Matthew 24- and paint Trump as the "Abomination of Desolation"- who will show "signs and wonders" who will deceive even the elect.  Um, Religious conservatives who did a Faustian deal with him to get their agenda pushed?    

  • @hoorta said:

    OK, maybe Biden groped and even raped a few women.  These are inexcusable comments from a draft dodger, about people who fought and died for this country. BTW, I heard the reason he didn't want to go was because it was raining and would muss up his hair.  I would love to see a protester get close enough to give that hair a yank to see if it's real.  🙂     Just more ammunition from my side- as a commentator said "does this guy even have a conscious?   

    @vambo said:

    Consider the source Vambo.. 

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    Four against one- but believe whatever. The Trumpetts are already 100% convinced DT never would dare say something like that, even though he had already called War Hero POW John McCain a "loser" and was forced to lower the White House flags against his will to half staff in honor at his funeral. It's not the only times he's been caught dissing the military. General Mattis- who's loved by the Marines- also comes immediately to mind.... 

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  • @vambo said:

    Consider the source Vambo.. 

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    Four against one- but believe whatever. The Trumpetts are already 100% convinced DT never would dare say something like that, even though he had already called War Hero POW John McCain a "loser" and was forced to lower the White House flags against his will to half staff in honor at his funeral. It's not the only times he's been caught dissing the military. General Mattis- who's loved by the Marines- also comes immediately to mind.... 

    @hoorta said:

    Consider the source Vambo.. 

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    Four against one- but believe whatever. The Trumpetts are already 100% convinced DT never would dare say something like that, even though he had already called War Hero POW John McCain a "loser" and was forced to lower the White House flags against his will to half staff in honor at his funeral. It's not the only times he's been caught dissing the military. General Mattis- who's loved by the Marines- also comes immediately to mind.... 

    @hoorta said:

    Consider the source Vambo.. 

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    Four against one- but believe whatever. The Trumpetts are already 100% convinced DT never would dare say something like that, even though he had already called War Hero POW John McCain a "loser" and was forced to lower the White House flags against his will to half staff in honor at his funeral. It's not the only times he's been caught dissing the military. General Mattis- who's loved by the Marines- also comes immediately to mind.... 

    Who are the four as you just pointed out " Consider the source " who is your source?

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    @axe said:

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    Yup, that's you guys watching FOX all right- It's one of Trump's major accomplishments (according to Cal) every night tuning in to watch Hannity and Carlson kiss his ass....   

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  • @hoorta said:

    Consider the source Vambo.. 

    Image

    Four against one- but believe whatever. The Trumpetts are already 100% convinced DT never would dare say something like that, even though he had already called War Hero POW John McCain a "loser" and was forced to lower the White House flags against his will to half staff in honor at his funeral. It's not the only times he's been caught dissing the military. General Mattis- who's loved by the Marines- also comes immediately to mind.... 

    @hoorta said:

    Consider the source Vambo.. 

    Image

    Four against one- but believe whatever. The Trumpetts are already 100% convinced DT never would dare say something like that, even though he had already called War Hero POW John McCain a "loser" and was forced to lower the White House flags against his will to half staff in honor at his funeral. It's not the only times he's been caught dissing the military. General Mattis- who's loved by the Marines- also comes immediately to mind.... 

    Who are the four as you just pointed out " Consider the source " who is your source?

    @vambo said:

    Who are the four as you just pointed out " Consider the source " who is your source?

    Got it- they're all lying, but a former Trump aide is telling God's own truth.... I'm waiting (actually it's already happened) the  FAKE NEWS!!! mantra coming form Orangie... 🙂   

    So predictable...   

  • Stop please ?

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    Stop please ?

    @axe said:

    Stop please ?

    OK, you have your opinion- I have mine- just trying to be "Fair and Balanced" you can't hardly call FOX that anymore....  

  • @axe said:

    Stop please ?

    OK, you have your opinion- I have mine- just trying to be "Fair and Balanced" you can't hardly call FOX that anymore....  

    @hoorta said:

    OK, you have your opinion- I have mine- just trying to be "Fair and Balanced"

    Dude,,, Stop!! I'm gonna pee ???

  • @vambo said:

    Who are the four as you just pointed out " Consider the source " who is your source?

    Got it- they're all lying, but a former Trump aide is telling God's own truth.... I'm waiting (actually it's already happened) the  FAKE NEWS!!! mantra coming form Orangie... 🙂   

    So predictable...   

    @hoorta said:

    Got it- they're all lying, but a former Trump aide is telling God's own truth.... I'm waiting (actually it's already happened) the  FAKE NEWS!!! mantra coming form Orangie... 🙂   

    So predictable...   

    Don't know who they are...Do you?  John Bolton sides with Trump on this so there are two sources out in the open saying the article is false!

    So predictable... 

  • @gorka said:

    What does Stormy Daniels have to do with this? What are you reaching for now?

    Do you want to be that f**king dense dense? Joe is a touchy feely guy. He's  never cheated on his wives, unlike Trump who's done so on all of them.  He's  even bragged about it,  IIRC. 

    Nah, Orangie constantly lies, I just pointed out two of the most recent ones in other posts, but you're still willing to stick up for him because personal morality doesn't matter to you, as long as you like his agenda. In that the case, you can stop posting those pictures of Joe. 

    @hoorta said:

    Do you want to be that f**king dense dense? Joe is a touchy feely guy. He's  never cheated on his wives, unlike Trump who's done so on all of them.  He's  even bragged about it,  IIRC. 

    Nah, Orangie constantly lies, I just pointed out two of the most recent ones in other posts, but you're still willing to stick up for him because personal morality doesn't matter to you, as long as you like his agenda. In that the case, you can stop posting those pictures of Joe. 

    My my the projection here. You're as fucking dense as they come.  What does Trumps personal life as a PRIVATE CITIZEN  have to do with his presidency?

    Am I excusing his cheating and shit? No. I'm trying to put things into perspective.  You TDS types lack the ability to do so, so rein in those false accusations for a moment.

    So are you saying that a man with questionable morals as a private citizen should be disqualified to run as president?  He shouldn't be given a chance?

    How has Trumps  extramarital affairs AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN  negatively affected his job?

    Has he had affairs AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?

    What you will do now is NOT answer those questions but rather accuse ME of deflecting away from Trumps affair with Daniels....and/or  accuse me either of ignoring Trumps questionable morals or defending him....then blather about the "red state" forum and your disdain for MAGA, thinking your gonna hurt our feelings....wash, rinse, repeat

     That is exactly the way you operate.  Tell me it isn't...G'head.

    Now to further prove your density. The shit Clinton, Biden, even Kennedy did was WHILE THEY WERE IN OFFICE.  On your time, on my time, on the American peoples time.

    Are you that dense not to understand the difference???

  • And another Republican chimes in, one with no political aspirations.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/sully-pilot-trump-troops-losers-miracle-hudson-2020-9

  • @hammertime said:

    It’s important to step away from all of this political stimulation.

    1) trump may be an ass but he loves his country.

    2) dont let the radical movement succeed just because folks bash you questioning things.

    3) there is some pure evil percolating in the Democratic agenda 

    It's so pleasant for a change to do an exchange with someone, and not have to deal with vitriol....  I'M RIGHT!!! NO, I'M RIGHTER!!!!  

    My 0.02....  

    1) He certainly acts like he does, but I question his sincerity about that- and a bunch of other stuff.... 

    2) The Squad can go to hell, they don't represent my viewpoint- and if the paranoids here would be willing to admit it- they don't represent the views of  a lot of Democrats, either.  

    3) I wouldn't doubt it- but you at least have to try and see it from the other side also- a lot of people see Trump as pure evil, (90% from my viewpoint) and aren't going to vote for him, on that basis alone. I won't do it- yet. OK, I will- in part... At the risk of being railed against as nut job.... But it's real easy to take the Bible's Matthew 24- and paint Trump as the "Abomination of Desolation"- who will show "signs and wonders" who will deceive even the elect.  Um, Religious conservatives who did a Faustian deal with him to get their agenda pushed?    

    @hoorta said:

    It's so pleasant for a change to do an exchange with someone, and not have to deal with vitriol....  I'M RIGHT!!! NO, I'M RIGHTER!!!!  

    My 0.02....  

    1) He certainly acts like he does, but I question his sincerity about that- and a bunch of other stuff.... 

    2) The Squad can go to hell, they don't represent my viewpoint- and if the paranoids here would be willing to admit it- they don't represent the views of  a lot of Democrats, either.  

    3) I wouldn't doubt it- but you at least have to try and see it from the other side also- a lot of people see Trump as pure evil, (90% from my viewpoint) and aren't going to vote for him, on that basis alone. I won't do it- yet. OK, I will- in part... At the risk of being railed against as nut job.... But it's real easy to take the Bible's Matthew 24- and paint Trump as the "Abomination of Desolation"- who will show "signs and wonders" who will deceive even the elect.  Um, Religious conservatives who did a Faustian deal with him to get their agenda pushed?    

    that was obaMao. He said things to get elected, and violated what he said, reversed himself in his actions, betrayed a lot of good decent Americans - and lied and lied some more. The scandals were/are real.

      and you didn't say one thing about it for eight years. yet, here you are. How liberally convenient.

    and you STILL can't name one. You're done.

  • @hoorta said:

    Do you want to be that f**king dense dense? Joe is a touchy feely guy. He's  never cheated on his wives, unlike Trump who's done so on all of them.  He's  even bragged about it,  IIRC. 

    Nah, Orangie constantly lies, I just pointed out two of the most recent ones in other posts, but you're still willing to stick up for him because personal morality doesn't matter to you, as long as you like his agenda. In that the case, you can stop posting those pictures of Joe. 

    My my the projection here. You're as fucking dense as they come.  What does Trumps personal life as a PRIVATE CITIZEN  have to do with his presidency?

    Am I excusing his cheating and shit? No. I'm trying to put things into perspective.  You TDS types lack the ability to do so, so rein in those false accusations for a moment.

    So are you saying that a man with questionable morals as a private citizen should be disqualified to run as president?  He shouldn't be given a chance?

    How has Trumps  extramarital affairs AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN  negatively affected his job?

    Has he had affairs AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?

    What you will do now is NOT answer those questions but rather accuse ME of deflecting away from Trumps affair with Daniels....and/or  accuse me either of ignoring Trumps questionable morals or defending him....then blather about the "red state" forum and your disdain for MAGA, thinking your gonna hurt our feelings....wash, rinse, repeat

     That is exactly the way you operate.  Tell me it isn't...G'head.

    Now to further prove your density. The shit Clinton, Biden, even Kennedy did was WHILE THEY WERE IN OFFICE.  On your time, on my time, on the American peoples time.

    Are you that dense not to understand the difference???

    @gorka said:

    My my the projection here. You're as fucking dense as they come.  What does Trumps personal life as a PRIVATE CITIZEN  have to do with his presidency?

    Am I excusing his cheating and shit? No. I'm trying to put things into perspective.  You TDS types lack the ability to do so, so rein in those false accusations for a moment.

    So are you saying that a man with questionable morals as a private citizen should be disqualified to run as president?  He shouldn't be given a chance?

    How has Trumps  extramarital affairs AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN  negatively affected his job?

    Has he had affairs AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?

    Double talk much? My assertion that Trump  is an adulterer whose affair torpedoed his first marriage is somehow false?      

    Because the leopard hasn't changed his spots once he got into office..  So you want to excuse him on the basis of  before\after?- Big whoop, and in my book that's a pretty damn lame "perspective" on your part.  "Compromise" isn't in DT's vocabulary, or brain function.  The best retort I saw in another (not right wing thread) is- it's all a zero sum game to Donnie. If the other side "wins" he loses. Don't forget he called POW McCain a "loser". He should look in a mirror before he starts throwing that word around....   He's still a slime ball Gorka- you're just deflecting.  And it's seriously affected his credibility to most intelligent folks who have a few communicating neurons left.   You're one of the few MAGAs around that has an IQ over the cretin level, so take it as a compliment.  

    BTW- if you listen to respected opinions from the other side of the fence (you obviously don't) Trump's been utterly  "unqualified" from day one. "schoolyard bully", "carnival barking clown", "imbecile"...  He's been given his chance, and been found lacking- or all those polls more "Fake News"?  LOL.  You still wonder why so many Republicans, and yes patriots have jumped off the rat infested USS Trump? Buy a clue pal....  Sure, 17yo kids with AR15s who like to play wannabe cops love his message....   

    Is it "moral" to insult the opposition over 2,000 documented times?

    Is it "moral" to lie out your ass way over 1,000 documented times? 

    Is it "moral" to suggest in North Carolina to try and vote twice illegally? So you can claim voter fraud? Snake speak with forked tongue.... 

    Is it "moral" to appoint your unqualified lackeys to positions of authority, only because they kiss your ass- or contribute to your campaign (DeJoy)? Who incidentally has a major conflict of interest?....  

    And his latest dissing of our war dead? 

    Go ahead, spin away- I'll wait....    

    PS- I do love (actually am incredulous) over his latest- bringing in his unqualified radiologist (not epidemiologist) Doc who's telling President Quack what he wants to hear- espousing "herd immunity" that's 100% guaranteed to shoot the death total through the roof. You're going to have a hard time spinning that one away Donnie when the Democrats rip you into shreds over it.....  I hope you noticed at the RNC the thought process is- if we ignore covid, or act like it's in the past- it doesn't exist.....  I'd suggest that you take a look at the opinion polls that say- um, it does matter, and we are worried.