Mangini sending a clear message
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I like the idea of bringing in fresh guys to help push those left on the team. Competition is nothing but positive. I do believe that Maurice Jones Drew was quoted in a sporting news magazine as saying "When you are satisfied with where you are, imporvement stops" and I like that quote a lot.
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Have a listless showing in a preseason game? Enter LB Robert McCune, G Pat Murray, RB Chris Jennings, and WR Paul Raymond, in two and a half days. The "my way or the highway" movement is well underway in Berea.
This is an old Parcells tactic. Bring in guys with fresh (er) legs to push guys who are getting camp weary. Look for another interior DL to show up in a matter of hours, especially with the potential loss of Purcell.
Mangini is not about to play the enemy for the last days of camp. It's like feeding raw meat to the junkyard dog. Here's what the enemy smells like! These are the new guys that are here to take your jobs.
I don't believe that any one of these guys makes the 53. But they may make 65... and a lot of veterans very, very nervous. Mangini is f'ing serious about this. You will execute or you'll play elsewhere. I'll just paraphrase the quote attributed to Scott Pioli (another Parcells disciple)... "I can get 53 guys off the street and go 4-12."
It ain't gonna win you Mr. Congeniality, but I love the approach.
-jj
Have a listless showing in a preseason game? Enter LB Robert McCune, G Pat Murray, RB Chris Jennings, and WR Paul Raymond, in two and a half days. The "my way or the highway" movement is well underway in Berea.
This is an old Parcells tactic. Bring in guys with fresh (er) legs to push guys who are getting camp weary. Look for another interior DL to show up in a matter of hours, especially with the potential loss of Purcell.
Mangini is not about to play the enemy for the last days of camp. It's like feeding raw meat to the junkyard dog. Here's what the enemy smells like! These are the new guys that are here to take your jobs.
I don't believe that any one of these guys makes the 53. But they may make 65... and a lot of veterans very, very nervous. Mangini is f'ing serious about this. You will execute or you'll play elsewhere. I'll just paraphrase the quote attributed to Scott Pioli (another Parcells disciple)... "I can get 53 guys off the street and go 4-12."
It ain't gonna win you Mr. Congeniality, but I love the approach.
-jj
LOVE IT!
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Should be interesting to see what kind of message Mangini delivers in response to this:
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What is the 65?
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What is the 65?
What is the 65?
active roster + practice squad I'm guessing.
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The cuts are made in stages. Before the final cuts, the roster is trimmed is 65.
(at least I think)
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Does anyone have details on how good Chris Jennings is ? Is he just for RB depth ?
Does anyone have details on how good Chris Jennings is ? Is he just for RB depth ?
U of A resident here...
He had one good game in his career at Arizona and it was agaisnt Stephen F Austin. He had 201 yards on the ground that game.
His next highest total was 89 later that year against Stanford, who might as well have been a D-II team that year.
Other than those games his three highest run totals in college were 53, 41, and 41.
He averaged 2.9 YPC as a senior and lost his job to then-freshman Nicolas Grigsby.
Quite frankly, he wasn't very good then and I can't imagine how he has improved enough to get an invite to an NFL camp.
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Should be interesting to see what kind of message Mangini delivers in response to this:
Aloysius said:
Should be interesting to see what kind of message Mangini delivers in response to this:I can't be the only one a little perplexed on the high praise Cox seems to get as a coach. As a player, he was close to being a nutjob.
Hey, maybe this team needs guys like him, and the fact Mangie loves the guy has to mean something. However, I am wary of more issues involving Cox and his emotions. Leonard seems to be a cool guy, but we don't know what really happened.
The Smith incident doesn't count, he is a nutjob.
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Have a listless showing in a preseason game? Enter LB Robert McCune, G Pat Murray, RB Chris Jennings, and WR Paul Raymond, in two and a half days. The "my way or the highway" movement is well underway in Berea.
This is an old Parcells tactic. Bring in guys with fresh (er) legs to push guys who are getting camp weary. Look for another interior DL to show up in a matter of hours, especially with the potential loss of Purcell.
Mangini is not about to play the enemy for the last days of camp. It's like feeding raw meat to the junkyard dog. Here's what the enemy smells like! These are the new guys that are here to take your jobs.
I don't believe that any one of these guys makes the 53. But they may make 65... and a lot of veterans very, very nervous. Mangini is f'ing serious about this. You will execute or you'll play elsewhere. I'll just paraphrase the quote attributed to Scott Pioli (another Parcells disciple)... "I can get 53 guys off the street and go 4-12."
It ain't gonna win you Mr. Congeniality, but I love the approach.
-jj
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The cuts are made in stages. Before the final cuts, the roster is trimmed is 65.
(at least I think)
Aloysius said:
The cuts are made in stages. Before the final cuts, the roster is trimmed is 65.(at least I think)
Yeah... I'm not even sure they do that anymore. It's more of an expression. The traditional first cut was always to 65. And, I always think of it that way. It was more of a description of the difference separating slot fillers, udfa's, and guys that aren't really NFL talents from the legitimate prospects, journeymen, and vets who lost jobs in competitions. The guys who made "the 65" before getting cut often ended up being claimed off waivers, or signed to someone's practice squad.
I think actually this year they cut to 75 then down to 53. I can't remember exactly... I think they changed that a couple of years ago. Somewhere Sept. 1st is sticking in my head... 75 by September 1st. I think that's right.
-jj
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It is what this team has needed for a long time....some fire and desire.
We aren't talking about some crap ass job that can be had anywhere...we are talking about the best paying job most of these guys could ever possibly hope to hold.
Let them know there is a real chance they won't hold it much longer and it brings out the 100% rather than the 90%.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
Should be interesting to see what kind of message Mangini delivers in response to this:
Aloysius said:
Should be interesting to see what kind of message Mangini delivers in response to this:You know, it' funny really. This might actually work in Louis' favor. If he's lacked anything in his brief NFL career, it's intensity. I'm not going conspiracy theory here, but I would not be surprised if the staff IOK, Cox and Mangini) wasn't riding him just to see where he breaks. Just to see where he starts to fight back.
I feel like I keep saying this... but it worked for Parcells, it's worked for Belichick.
Of course, it could just be that everyone's getting a little frayed around the edges.
-jj
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I agree. If he gets cut, it won't be because of this, it is simply because he isn't good enough.
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It is what this team has needed for a long time....some fire and desire.
We aren't talking about some crap ass job that can be had anywhere...we are talking about the best paying job most of these guys could ever possibly hope to hold.
Let them know there is a real chance they won't hold it much longer and it brings out the 100% rather than the 90%.
It is what this team has needed for a long time....some fire and desire.
We aren't talking about some crap ass job that can be had anywhere...we are talking about the best paying job most of these guys could ever possibly hope to hold.
Let them know there is a real chance they won't hold it much longer and it brings out the 100% rather than the 90%.
Yep! Most have the ability....with THIS regime, we'll find out who has the desire & pride! If that's not there, neither will their paycheck...no more "easy money". Once again, we are heading in the right direction.
Mike
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What is the 65?
active roster + practice squad I'm guessing.
AdaM said:
active roster + practice squad I'm guessing.The practice squad is limited to 8
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I got my eye out on Cox, I ain't drinking the kool aid just yet.
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I agree. He was always a loud mouth player.
But he was always the most intense. You can't coach talent but you can coach intensity and how to play full tilt.
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