OBJ trade whispers bubbling once again
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From the day OBJ was traded for, it was pretty obvious that he was going to be a relatively short-term "get". He was never going to retire from the Browns - they'd get 2 or 3 years out of him and then ditch him when they needed to free money up. What is hilarious is that this idiot will probably do victory laps on here when he does finally get traded... ? "SEE I TOLD ALL OF YOU!"
Someone pointed out that he showed up about the same time that OBJ did so it seems maybe that he is an OBJ stalker and if OBJ goes so will he and we will be free at last free at last thank God almighty will be free at last
Someone pointed out that he showed up about the same time that OBJ did so it seems maybe that he is an OBJ stalker and if OBJ goes so will he and we will be free at last free at last thank God almighty will be free at last
Did you order a pu pu platter for dinner?
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Someone pointed out that he showed up about the same time that OBJ did so it seems maybe that he is an OBJ stalker and if OBJ goes so will he and we will be free at last free at last thank God almighty will be free at last
Did you order a pu pu platter for dinner?
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If you repost this thread every 3 weeks for the next 5 years, eventually you'll be right!
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Explain what that is and I will tell you.

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Explain what that is and I will tell you.

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If you repost this thread every 3 weeks for the next 5 years, eventually you'll be right!
If you repost this thread every 3 weeks for the next 5 years, eventually you'll be right!
Also, to me it works like an anti jinx gone wrong.
You know like those "send this message to 5 friends or you will die tomorrow." But in this case is like "Post this every other week in order to piss on the day of the rest of the Browns Board."
He might end up getting us to love OBJ when I really wouldn't really mind if #13 left.
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If you repost this thread every 3 weeks for the next 5 years, eventually you'll be right!
Also, to me it works like an anti jinx gone wrong.
You know like those "send this message to 5 friends or you will die tomorrow." But in this case is like "Post this every other week in order to piss on the day of the rest of the Browns Board."
He might end up getting us to love OBJ when I really wouldn't really mind if #13 left.
in order to piss on the day of
OBJ's performance has a lot of room for improvement. Peppers' performance was the same.
You know what pisses on my day when it comes to OBJ/peppers? The fact that we could have drafted TreDavious White or Bubba Baker or TJ Watt with that pick.
Although even talking about players drafted brings us to yet another issue that's hidden in all these threads about players -- NO draftee is "complete" when they get to the NFL, and Browns organization has been terrible basically since Belichick left in further development/maximizing NFL skills of the players we do have.
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in order to piss on the day of
OBJ's performance has a lot of room for improvement. Peppers' performance was the same.
You know what pisses on my day when it comes to OBJ/peppers? The fact that we could have drafted TreDavious White or Bubba Baker or TJ Watt with that pick.
Although even talking about players drafted brings us to yet another issue that's hidden in all these threads about players -- NO draftee is "complete" when they get to the NFL, and Browns organization has been terrible basically since Belichick left in further development/maximizing NFL skills of the players we do have.
OBJ's performance has a lot of room for improvement. Peppers' performance was the same.
You know what pisses on my day when it comes to OBJ/peppers? The fact that we could have drafted TreDavious White or Bubba Baker or TJ Watt with that pick.
Although even talking about players drafted brings us to yet another issue that's hidden in all these threads about players -- NO draftee is "complete" when they get to the NFL, and Browns organization has been terrible basically since Belichick left in further development/maximizing NFL skills of the players we do have.
We have become the Cleveland Indians of the 70's with great fan attendance... We are basically a low budget farm team for the rest of the NFL...
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OBJ's performance has a lot of room for improvement. Peppers' performance was the same.
You know what pisses on my day when it comes to OBJ/peppers? The fact that we could have drafted TreDavious White or Bubba Baker or TJ Watt with that pick.
Although even talking about players drafted brings us to yet another issue that's hidden in all these threads about players -- NO draftee is "complete" when they get to the NFL, and Browns organization has been terrible basically since Belichick left in further development/maximizing NFL skills of the players we do have.
We have become the Cleveland Indians of the 70's with great fan attendance... We are basically a low budget farm team for the rest of the NFL...
We have become the Cleveland Indians of the 70's with great fan attendance... We are basically a low budget farm team for the rest of the NFL...
Not just the rest of the NFL - this lack of investment in the organization also means that your taxes line Haslam's pockets instead of pay the ongoing wages of a larger, more experienced staff.
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Explain what that is and I will tell you.

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We have become the Cleveland Indians of the 70's with great fan attendance... We are basically a low budget farm team for the rest of the NFL...
Not just the rest of the NFL - this lack of investment in the organization also means that your taxes line Haslam's pockets instead of pay the ongoing wages of a larger, more experienced staff.
Not just the rest of the NFL - this lack of investment in the organization also means that your taxes line Haslam's pockets instead of pay the ongoing wages of a larger, more experienced staff.
Can you explain what you mean by "lack of investment"? Are you talking about the fact that we are constantly one of the team most under the cap....that we never use up our cap space to acquire good FAs?
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Explain what that is and I will tell you.

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Not just the rest of the NFL - this lack of investment in the organization also means that your taxes line Haslam's pockets instead of pay the ongoing wages of a larger, more experienced staff.
Can you explain what you mean by "lack of investment"? Are you talking about the fact that we are constantly one of the team most under the cap....that we never use up our cap space to acquire good FAs?
"lack of investment"
Have to pay up for talented NFL assistant coaches who are capable of and willing to actually teach up NFL talent.. can't just put fat morons who don't think athletes need to stretch in track suits and be shocked the results don't follow.
I'm saying it's a deliberate choice - it's haslam's way of pocketing extra taxpayer millions each season
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We have become the Cleveland Indians of the 70's with great fan attendance... We are basically a low budget farm team for the rest of the NFL...
Not just the rest of the NFL - this lack of investment in the organization also means that your taxes line Haslam's pockets instead of pay the ongoing wages of a larger, more experienced staff.
Not just the rest of the NFL - this lack of investment in the organization also means that your taxes line Haslam's pockets instead of pay the ongoing wages of a larger, more experienced staff.
... and Haslam is still getting tax dollars because...
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Combination of taxes all from Cleveland citizens paying for stadium - Crain's is one of the better business publications out there. Overall lease
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Combination of taxes all from Cleveland citizens paying for stadium - Crain's is one of the better business publications out there. Overall lease
Combination of taxes all from Cleveland citizens paying for stadium - Crain's is one of the better business publications out there. Overall lease
Except for Crain not knowing how to use the "Enter" key that was a pretty good read. There were a lot of big numbers in the past, but the on-going financial obligation doesn't seem to be that great and the owner of a property is always responsible for the upkeep. Most of the amount needed thru 2024 is already in the fund for that purpose.
Seems to me the Haslam Browns are chipping in a helluva a lot more than the city. Granted that his money is going towards "improvements" and not "maintenance", but as the tenant that's no windfall for Jimmah.
Also your "all kinds of taxes" boils down to sin taxes plus the ticket admissions tax. The former was always intended for sports facilities and the later is dependent upon going to games. So don't smoke or drink and don't attend games.
I also noted that the city does not have to share revenue from the Muni lots. Add RTA revenue and taxes from downtown, pre-game diners and post game "celebrations" (may there be many) and I'd be shocked if the city is not at least breaking even.
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https://www.brownsnation.com/report-browns-have-no-plans-to-trade-odell-beckham-jr/
Report: Browns Have No Plans To Trade Odell Beckham Jr.
By Andy Webb September 20, 2020
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