WE NEED A RUNNING BACK
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It's time to start looking for backs because there is no way Lewis is going to lead this team anywhere. Regardless of what Davis ends up doing, we are woefully thin at RB right now.
How about Edge?
It's time to start looking for backs because there is no way Lewis is going to lead this team anywhere. Regardless of what Davis ends up doing, we are woefully thin at RB right now.
How about Edge?
I think we could use some giddyup on the depth chart too Riff. This is just a tough time to get that because we're really looking to guys not makign other teams.
I NEVER thought I'd say this but Chris Henry of Tenn has improved considerably but there's a crowded house at RB. One thing he did exceptionally well in the HOF Game and this past weekend is pass protect and he's running the ball alot better. The problem is he's be behind Chris Johnson, LenDale White, and Javon Ringer so he's pretty much playing for life outside of Tenn. AGAIN, I didn't like this kid at all 2 years ago and completely agreed with his draft critics. This year he's run the ball well and mastered the art of pass protection. He's faster than than 2 of the guys ahead of him on the depth chart but I think they run better on the field because of vision and instinct. You can't really coach instincts and vision so Henry would be available with those limitations if/when Tenn cuts him.
Edge would have been a great idea 2-3 years ago. For all I know, he still might be. I just keep thinking he was drafted way back in 1999.
Believe it or not, it was NEVER a QB that lured me into this franchise. It started with my dad brainwashing me about Jim Brown and kicked in with Leroy Kelly followed up by Grep Pruitt. To this day, I found Greg Pruitt to be one of the most exciting back I've seen in our uniform. I didn't say the BEST - I said most exciting. He could score from anywhere and he packed alot of deceptive strength and power into that frame.
I'm still looking forward to seeing more of James Davis. I'm noticing a trend where Harrison always seems to be dinged up whenever it's an ideal time to see what he has. That's not a good sign IMO.
- Tom F.
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It's time to start looking for backs because there is no way Lewis is going to lead this team anywhere. Regardless of what Davis ends up doing, we are woefully thin at RB right now.
How about Edge?
I think we could use some giddyup on the depth chart too Riff. This is just a tough time to get that because we're really looking to guys not makign other teams.
I NEVER thought I'd say this but Chris Henry of Tenn has improved considerably but there's a crowded house at RB. One thing he did exceptionally well in the HOF Game and this past weekend is pass protect and he's running the ball alot better. The problem is he's be behind Chris Johnson, LenDale White, and Javon Ringer so he's pretty much playing for life outside of Tenn. AGAIN, I didn't like this kid at all 2 years ago and completely agreed with his draft critics. This year he's run the ball well and mastered the art of pass protection. He's faster than than 2 of the guys ahead of him on the depth chart but I think they run better on the field because of vision and instinct. You can't really coach instincts and vision so Henry would be available with those limitations if/when Tenn cuts him.
Edge would have been a great idea 2-3 years ago. For all I know, he still might be. I just keep thinking he was drafted way back in 1999.
Believe it or not, it was NEVER a QB that lured me into this franchise. It started with my dad brainwashing me about Jim Brown and kicked in with Leroy Kelly followed up by Grep Pruitt. To this day, I found Greg Pruitt to be one of the most exciting back I've seen in our uniform. I didn't say the BEST - I said most exciting. He could score from anywhere and he packed alot of deceptive strength and power into that frame.
I'm still looking forward to seeing more of James Davis. I'm noticing a trend where Harrison always seems to be dinged up whenever it's an ideal time to see what he has. That's not a good sign IMO.
- Tom F.
I'm still looking forward to seeing more of James Davis.
Me too. All of the Terrell Davis/Frank Gore comparisons may have been a bit premature, but there's still good reason to think JD could part of the solution at running back.
Add a young power back alongside Davis & Harrison and you've got a pretty nice RB rotation.
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Im hoping for LeGarrette Blount in the third
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Ryan Torain is also a free agent. Anyone else interested?
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@inspecta said:
F*ck picking up the blitz, if you want a back to pick up the blitz then you let the fullback do that, on offense I'm ALWAYS sending my HB in the flats or on a hook up the middle as an outlet.That may work out just fine until you're 3rd and 6 with no FB on the field.
Or, as an opposing DC, no matter the d/d, if your FB isn't out there and the RB that is out there can't block for shit...... I'm blitzing.
RBs in the NFL need to be able to block effectively....it's pretty F'in simple, straightforward, and established.
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is JJ arrington out for the season???
Yes. He recently had microfracture surgery on his right knee.
Ryan Torain is also a free agent. Anyone else interested?
Too much of an injury risk. He reportedly failed his Combine med eval and has suffered two serious knee injuries in the last ten months. I'm not sure he's even healthy enough to play right now.
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@inspecta said:
F*ck picking up the blitz, if you want a back to pick up the blitz then you let the fullback do that, on offense I'm ALWAYS sending my HB in the flats or on a hook up the middle as an outlet.This ain't Madden. All you need to do is look at tape of when Davis and Herron were in last Saturday to see the results of a RB not being able to pick up a blitz.
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@inspecta said:
F*ck picking up the blitz, if you want a back to pick up the blitz then you let the fullback do that, on offense I'm ALWAYS sending my HB in the flats or on a hook up the middle as an outlet.This ain't Madden. All you need to do is look at tape of when Davis and Herron were in last Saturday to see the results of a RB not being able to pick up a blitz.
Masters said:
This ain't Madden. All you need to do is look at tape of when Davis and Herron were in last Saturday to see the results of a RB not being able to pick up a blitz.Speaking of which, Dom Capers is introducing the 3-4 zone blitz schemes. Did anyone else notice that the favorite spot to exploit our offense with the zone blitz came in the Guard-Center gaps? Our OGs got quite the learning experience the other night. The GOOD thing is MUCH of this is coachable and I blame the LINE more than the RBs. If the line does a better job we can use our RBs for short swing passes out of the backfiedl the way Buffalo did this with Thurman Thomas when they caught teams beign blitz happy. Thomas wasn't there to BLOCK folks. He did on occasion but they had FBs that did that name Carwell Garner and Jamie Mueller.
All I could think of during that GB game was how well Alex Gibbs' ZONE blocking schemes would matchup with this type of defensive scheme Capers was using. To be a good zone blocking team you need a a quick-athletic line that plays with great leverage so you can win position at the point of attack. It also helps to study film of your opponent to understand their favorite tendencies. In fairness, it's not realistic to have that mastered by the first preseason game.
- Tom F. (Is Loverboy playing hide and don't seek this week?)
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For what it's worth - via twitter - "There is a new RB #34 Jennings"
From @DawgScooper
-jj
That wouldnt be the jennings out of Liberty would it?
Just saw that Rashad Jennings was draftedd in the 7th with the Jags and is still on their roster so it cant be him. To bad that guy is a bruiser..
That wouldnt be the jennings out of Liberty would it?
Just saw that Rashad Jennings was draftedd in the 7th with the Jags and is still on their roster so it cant be him. To bad that guy is a bruiser..
It's the Jennings from the Canadian Football League. And he wasn't that good up there. Maybe Davis better show up this week. Could very well be a wakeup call for him. It's a little different when people are tackling you. We have to many guys that play well in shorts and then don't show up on game day.
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@inspecta said:
And if you have a QB behind center who can make a quick read then the ball is gone long before the LB gets to the QB because the WR is in man2man coverage.I'm not saying that RB should never have to block, but keeping a stud RB off the field because he isn't as good a blocker as say a TE is just ludicrous. Get your fastest guys on the field, the guys who can make plays and move chains (read:Harrison) and ask him to block only sparingly if he just can't block. But it's a moot point because I've seen Harrison pick up quite a few blocks during play time. Is he going to miss a block from time to time? Sure, everybody on the damn field misses a block from time to time.
My whole point though is that its beyond Retarded to delegate playing time and make value decisions on running backs based on how well they block....
That's going to all depend on down, distance, and how clean your WR get off the line. It's not quite as simple as having a QB making quick reads. I was mearly responding to your original post. I fully agree you don't always keep a RB off the field because he has issues with picking up the blitz (and other than his rookie year, I haven't actually seen Harrison have a problem with it). But if you have guys who are just bad like Davis and Herron were, they do limit you. If a RB is known for not being able to pick up the blitz and comes in the game, you have pretty much telegraphed to the D what you are doing .
I'd agree with that whole point, as oppossed to the just send the RB out in the flats concept from earlier.
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