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        One of the worst polls in 2016 was the @FoxNews Poll. They were so ridiculously wrong. Fox said they were going to change pollsters, but they didn’t. They totally over sample Democrats to a point that a child could see what is going on. Rasmussen, which was accurate, at 52%.
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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          @canton-dawg said:

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          If we're taking about accepting results.... has Trump accepted that he lost the popular vote in 2016 yet? 

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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            @canton-dawg said:

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            If we're taking about accepting results.... has Trump accepted that he lost the popular vote in 2016 yet? 

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            @mld-woody said:

            If we're taking about accepting results.... has Trump accepted that he lost the popular vote in 2016 yet? 

            Yes. Have the Democrats accepted the fact that that's not how presidential elections are settled? 

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              @mld-woody said:

              If we're taking about accepting results.... has Trump accepted that he lost the popular vote in 2016 yet? 

              Yes. Have the Democrats accepted the fact that that's not how presidential elections are settled? 

              WSS

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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              @westside-steve said:

              Yes. Have the Democrats accepted the fact that that's not how presidential elections are settled? 

              WSS

              Idk, you'd have to ask one. 

              The system does need reformed though. Not where it's the popular vote. But better than what it is now. 

              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                @westside-steve said:

                Yes. Have the Democrats accepted the fact that that's not how presidential elections are settled? 

                WSS

                Idk, you'd have to ask one. 

                The system does need reformed though. Not where it's the popular vote. But better than what it is now. 

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                VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
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                @mld-woody said:

                Idk, you'd have to ask one. 

                The system does need reformed though. Not where it's the popular vote. But better than what it is now. 

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                  @westside-steve said:

                  Yes. Have the Democrats accepted the fact that that's not how presidential elections are settled? 

                  WSS

                  Idk, you'd have to ask one. 

                  The system does need reformed though. Not where it's the popular vote. But better than what it is now. 

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                  @mld-woody said:

                  Idk, you'd have to ask one. 

                   but you didn't ask Trump if he accepted the results right? You asked members of the Browns board. So...

                  The system does need reformed though. Not where it's the popular vote. But better than what it is now. 

                   everybody wants reform when it benefits their side or hurts the side they don't like. The term reform doesn't necessarily mean better.

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                    @canton-dawg said:

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                    If we're taking about accepting results.... has Trump accepted that he lost the popular vote in 2016 yet? 

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                    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                    @mld-woody said:

                    If we're taking about accepting results.... has Trump accepted that he lost the popular vote in 2016 yet? 

                    That’s President Trump.

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                      @mld-woody said:

                      Idk, you'd have to ask one. 

                       but you didn't ask Trump if he accepted the results right? You asked members of the Browns board. So...

                      The system does need reformed though. Not where it's the popular vote. But better than what it is now. 

                       everybody wants reform when it benefits their side or hurts the side they don't like. The term reform doesn't necessarily mean better.

                      WSS

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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      @westside-steve said:

                      I don't care which side it helps or hurts. It's a fundamentally outdated "winner take all" system where at best some votes count 7+ times more than others and at worst are completely worthless. 

                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                        @mld-woody said:

                        If we're taking about accepting results.... has Trump accepted that he lost the popular vote in 2016 yet? 

                        Yes. Have the Democrats accepted the fact that that's not how presidential elections are settled? 

                        WSS

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                        @westside-steve said:

                        Yes. Have the Democrats accepted the fact that that's not how presidential elections are settled? 

                        WSS

                        We all know how presidents are elected, just pointing out that most of the people that voted did not want Chump as president. It's the reality of things, something Trump supporters have no concept of.

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                          @mld-woody said:

                          If we're taking about accepting results.... has Trump accepted that he lost the popular vote in 2016 yet? 

                          That’s President Trump.

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                          @canton-dawg said:

                          That’s President Trump.

                          yeah. "RESPECT THE OFFICE" goes both ways -

                          for honest democrats anyways.... (oxymoron there?)

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                            @westside-steve said:

                            I don't care which side it helps or hurts. It's a fundamentally outdated "winner take all" system where at best some votes count 7+ times more than others and at worst are completely worthless. 

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                            W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                            @mld-woody said:

                            I don't care which side it helps or hurts. It's a fundamentally outdated "winner take all" system where at best some votes count 7+ times more than others and at worst are completely worthless. 

                            If you say you don't care whether it benefits the side you prefer, let's say that doesn't quite ring true but I'll let that slide.

                            The idea of our federal government is that we were 50, well not 50 when it started out, but a bunch of States with at least a degree of autonomy. I realize some people would like to eliminate that facet altogether. There are probably people who would like to see one world government. Oh well.

                            I personally think we have weakened the autonomy of the states too much as it is.

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                              @mld-woody said:

                              I don't care which side it helps or hurts. It's a fundamentally outdated "winner take all" system where at best some votes count 7+ times more than others and at worst are completely worthless. 

                              If you say you don't care whether it benefits the side you prefer, let's say that doesn't quite ring true but I'll let that slide.

                              The idea of our federal government is that we were 50, well not 50 when it started out, but a bunch of States with at least a degree of autonomy. I realize some people would like to eliminate that facet altogether. There are probably people who would like to see one world government. Oh well.

                              I personally think we have weakened the autonomy of the states too much as it is.

                              WSS

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              @westside-steve said:

                              If you say you don't care whether it benefits the side you prefer, let's say that doesn't quite ring true but I'll let that slide.

                              The idea of our federal government is that we were 50, well not 50 when it started out, but a bunch of States with at least a degree of autonomy. I realize some people would like to eliminate that facet altogether. There are probably people who would like to see one world government. Oh well.

                              I personally think we have weakened the autonomy of the states too much as it is.

                              WSS

                              Why would that not ring true? What evidence do you have that I'm lying? 

                              One person from Vermont has a vote that counts 3x more than a vote in Texas.

                              Montana is 4x more than Cali. 

                              Candidates have no reason to campaign in states that they can't win, and they don't. That's the issue with a winner take all system. 

                              You can win the electoral college with 22% of the vote. 

                              Etc etc etc 

                              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                @westside-steve said:

                                If you say you don't care whether it benefits the side you prefer, let's say that doesn't quite ring true but I'll let that slide.

                                The idea of our federal government is that we were 50, well not 50 when it started out, but a bunch of States with at least a degree of autonomy. I realize some people would like to eliminate that facet altogether. There are probably people who would like to see one world government. Oh well.

                                I personally think we have weakened the autonomy of the states too much as it is.

                                WSS

                                Why would that not ring true? What evidence do you have that I'm lying? 

                                One person from Vermont has a vote that counts 3x more than a vote in Texas.

                                Montana is 4x more than Cali. 

                                Candidates have no reason to campaign in states that they can't win, and they don't. That's the issue with a winner take all system. 

                                You can win the electoral college with 22% of the vote. 

                                Etc etc etc 

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                                @mld-woody said:

                                Why would that not ring true? What evidence do you have that I'm lying? 

                                One person from Vermont has a vote that counts 3x more than a vote in Texas.

                                Montana is 4x more than Cali. 

                                Candidates have no reason to campaign in states that they can't win, and they don't. That's the issue with a winner take all system. 

                                You can win the electoral college with 22% of the vote. 

                                Etc etc etc 

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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  If you say you don't care whether it benefits the side you prefer, let's say that doesn't quite ring true but I'll let that slide.

                                  The idea of our federal government is that we were 50, well not 50 when it started out, but a bunch of States with at least a degree of autonomy. I realize some people would like to eliminate that facet altogether. There are probably people who would like to see one world government. Oh well.

                                  I personally think we have weakened the autonomy of the states too much as it is.

                                  WSS

                                  Why would that not ring true? What evidence do you have that I'm lying? 

                                  One person from Vermont has a vote that counts 3x more than a vote in Texas.

                                  Montana is 4x more than Cali. 

                                  Candidates have no reason to campaign in states that they can't win, and they don't. That's the issue with a winner take all system. 

                                  You can win the electoral college with 22% of the vote. 

                                  Etc etc etc 

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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  Why would that not ring true? What evidence do you have that I'm lying? 

                                  One person from Vermont has a vote that counts 3x more than a vote in Texas.

                                  Montana is 4x more than Cali. 

                                  Candidates have no reason to campaign in states that they can't win, and they don't. That's the issue with a winner take all system. 

                                  You can win the electoral college with 22% of the vote. 

                                  Etc etc etc 

                                  Are you really an engineer?

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                                    Ha, Prager U. The right wing think take that likes to pretend it has some ties to the academic world to make it more legitimate... though it'll also tell you Universities don't matter. 

                                    You gotta love all of the half truths and uncited info

                                    Ex: "Texas used to vote Dem, so all states matter!" Texas hasn't voted Dem in over 40 years. Safe states exist. They don't get campaigned in.

                                    The last point is that the Electoral College makes it harder to cheat. Without it, stealing a vote anywhere could change the election! That's literally admitting votes would matter more without it...

                                    Vambo, I know you can't actually respond to anything directly since you're some broken bot or foreign agent (at least I hope, otherwise that's pretty sad), but neither of those videos directly addressed the hard numbers I provided. Nothing was refuted. 

                                    Math is math and what the EC does is clear. 

                                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                      Ha, Prager U. The right wing think take that likes to pretend it has some ties to the academic world to make it more legitimate... though it'll also tell you Universities don't matter. 

                                      You gotta love all of the half truths and uncited info

                                      Ex: "Texas used to vote Dem, so all states matter!" Texas hasn't voted Dem in over 40 years. Safe states exist. They don't get campaigned in.

                                      The last point is that the Electoral College makes it harder to cheat. Without it, stealing a vote anywhere could change the election! That's literally admitting votes would matter more without it...

                                      Vambo, I know you can't actually respond to anything directly since you're some broken bot or foreign agent (at least I hope, otherwise that's pretty sad), but neither of those videos directly addressed the hard numbers I provided. Nothing was refuted. 

                                      Math is math and what the EC does is clear. 

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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      Ha, Prager U. The right wing think take that likes to pretend it has some ties to the academic world to make it more legitimate... though it'll also tell you Universities don't matter. 

                                      You gotta love all of the half truths and uncited info

                                      Ex: "Texas used to vote Dem, so all states matter!" Texas hasn't voted Dem in over 40 years. Safe states exist. They don't get campaigned in.

                                      The last point is that the Electoral College ï»żmakes it harder to cheat. Without it, stealing a vote anywhere could change the election! That's literally admitting votes would matter more without it...

                                      Vambo, I know you can't actually respond to anything directly since you're some broken bot or foreign agent (at least I hope, otherwise that's pretty sad), but neither of those videos directly addressed the hard numbers I provided. Nothing was refuted. 

                                      Math is math and what the EC does is clear. 

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                                          did either of you even watch that last one?

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