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  • I've looked into this a bit.

    It's definitely not Stem Cell derived, and to the best of my understanding with the time I've had available to look into it, it seems that it's synthetic (ie - man made), but that is as far as I've been able to look into this.

    I'm not sure what the parameter for "banning" certain research is as attributed to the OP, so take that into consideration.

    Here's more info/links for those that care to look into this further.

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    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/doctors-dispute-claims-that-trumps-coronavirus-treatment-was-developed-with-human-fetal-tissue

    https://www.isscr.org/docs/default-source/policy-documents/coalition-letter-to-nih-human-fetal-tissue-ethics-advisory-board-july-2020.pdf?sfvrsn=b0a243b1_2

    https://osp.od.nih.gov/wp-content/uploads/HFT_EAB_FY2020_Report_08182020.pdf

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Wouldn't get too ahead of myself there.  Herman Cain's timeline is rather sobering.

    Toss in my suspicion of the President being on a high dose steroid treatment until the election (a temporary high in health, so to speak) there is still a potential low for him to come.   Not to mention the hell played on your liver and kidneys for such a cycled course over 6 weeks.

    Having the best medical treatment on Earth also tends to help.  Or so I'm told...

     I have no doubt you're aware of the mortality levels by age group. You're probably also aware of the fact that 80% are people with the virus are asymptomatic. Maybe even that he didn't necessarily get any better treatment than anybody in New York or Ohio or California or Michigan or Wisconsin gets. There are world-class medical facilities and all those places. Some people are just going to be mad no matter what and while they might not admit to wishing he died will at last admit wishing he suffered much more.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Maybe even that he didn't necessarily get any better treatment than anybody in New York or Ohio or California or Michigan or Wisconsin gets. There are world-class medical facilities and all those places.

    WSS

    Yes he did. Our friend's brother is right there at Johns Hopkins with the exact same MD. But he was not given the experimental drug Regeneron until he'd been on a ventilator for two weeks when they were given permission to use it by the FDA because otherwise he was a goner in their opinion. It was compassionate emergency use. Donald was never in that state, so he did get better treatment than you or I would. The steroid and Remdesivir were started from the beginning on her brother before he went to ventilator.  BTW our buddy had his trach done yesterday and is starting to come out of the highly sedated state. Was able to open his eyes upon request, but otherwise not fully responding yet. They also added through minor surgery a feeding tube directly into his stomach through his abdomen. Looks like he is gonna make it, but we will not know full aftereffects for weeks or maybe months.

  • Tex loves lies and false narratives - with emotional knee jerk lefties - it's all they can do, because

    the truth about things don't fit their emotions. Just more fake nonsense to flood the forum. "Best defense is a dishonest offense" ?

    https://www.redstate.com/scotthounsell/2020/10/09/no-trumps-covid-19-treatment-didnt-come-from-aborted-fetuses/

    No, Trump’s COVID-19 Treatment Didn’t Come From Aborted Fetuses

    Fact-checkers at USA Today have said that the treatment does not contain any embryonic stem cells, at all.

    From USA Today:

    “Alexandra Bowie of Regeneron told news aggregation platform Heavy in an October email that REGN-COV2 was not made with human embryonic stem cells.

    “This particular discovery program (REGN-COV2) did not involve human stem cells or ESCs,” Bowie wrote. “

  • You'd have to be a moron to think the president of the United States got the same level of treatment as an average citizen in Michigan, Ohio, NY, etc...

  • You'd have to be a moron to think the president of the United States got the same level of treatment as an average citizen in Michigan, Ohio, NY, etc...

    @mld-woody said:

    You'd have to be a moron to think the president of the United States got the same level of treatment as an average citizen in Michigan, Ohio, NY, etc...

    Wow really mister obvious?

  • You'd have to be a moron to think the president of the United States got the same level of treatment as an average citizen in Michigan, Ohio, NY, etc...

    @mld-woody said:

    You'd have to be a moron to think the president of the United States got the same level of treatment as an average citizen in Michigan, Ohio, NY, etc...

    The moron would be the guy who doesn't think that the Cleveland clinic is as good as any medical facility in the fucking world.

    Sure he's going to have more security and probably a nicer room. When I was in the clinic the top floor was reserved for Kings Prime Ministers and the like that came there for heart surgery. Same doctors are working on all of us. I'm sure it will be equal in your eyes when Joe Biden is sitting in the White House..

    WSS

  • You'd have to be a moron to think the president of the United States got the same level of treatment as an average citizen in Michigan, Ohio, NY, etc...

    @mld-woody said:

    You'd have to be a moron to think the president of the United States got the same level of treatment as an average citizen in Michigan, Ohio, NY, etc...

      do you know that snow melts? really, it's true. and, on trees, or on the ground, ....leaves get blown by the wind?

    Really. It's true....

  • @mld-woody said:

    You'd have to be a moron to think the president of the United States got the same level of treatment as an average citizen in Michigan, Ohio, NY, etc...

    The moron would be the guy who doesn't think that the Cleveland clinic is as good as any medical facility in the fucking world.

    Sure he's going to have more security and probably a nicer room. When I was in the clinic the top floor was reserved for Kings Prime Ministers and the like that came there for heart surgery. Same doctors are working on all of us. I'm sure it will be equal in your eyes when Joe Biden is sitting in the White House..

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    The moron would be the guy who doesn't think that the Cleveland clinic is as good as any medical facility in the fucking world.

    Sure he's going to have more security and probably a nicer room. When I was in the clinic the top floor was reserved for Kings Prime Ministers and the like that came there for heart surgery. Same doctors are working on all of us. I'm sure it will be equal in your eyes when Joe Biden is sitting in the White House..

    WSS

    Beyond that my cardiologist was the same guy that works on the king. What the fuck do you think those guys do all day? Sit around and wait for a big shot to come in? Fuck no. They work on everybody that comes their way. 

    WSS

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I consulted Dr. Steve. Years too late to cure a disease from the 90's though. It's been a chronic state of contempt of liars, especially the President of Trump Fake University and Trump Fake Charity Foundation. Just can't help me now. The only medicine that works is the one I took this week. It's called a ballot.?

    What DH said. A ballot for socialism, corruption, and anti -American sentiment . What a true American votes for. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    @gorka said:

    What DH said. A ballot for socialism, corruption, and anti -American sentiment . What a true American votes for. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    You'll apparently have plenty to cry about in a month or so.. Trump is running one of the most corrupt presidencies in a long time- how many of his pals convicted on felony charges? Some for covering up for their boss lying to Congress...   

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Wow a fat unhealthy 75 year old with high stress levels was saved in the span of a week? 

    Well that's good news for pretty much everyone else then isn't it? Except the people who have a vested interest in keeping you as frightened as a mouse cornered by the cat. 

    He was saved by the triple platinum 24\7 care (and in a couple instances) experimental treatments reserved for Mr. President that he received. If you happen to have COPD, asthma, or a history of pulmonary emboli you should be plenty frightened about covid. Just get exposed to covid (like I was last week) and see just how unconcerned you're going to be about potentially contracting it.   

    I said elsewhere he should feel great after taking dexamethasone. If he's still taking it, it may well explain his current maniacal behavior (like wanting Obama arrested).

    This is straight off the Mayo Clinic Website- some of the potential relevant side effects of dex. Coincidence?  Hmmm.... make up you own mind... Aggression, agitation, anxiety, irritability, mental depression, mood changes, nervousness, noisy rattling breathing, trouble thinking,,(LOL) speaking, or walking, troubled breathing at rest

  • @gorka said:

    What DH said. A ballot for socialism, corruption, and anti -American sentiment . What a true American votes for. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    You'll apparently have plenty to cry about in a month or so.. Trump is running one of the most corrupt presidencies in a long time- how many of his pals convicted on felony charges? Some for covering up for their boss lying to Congress...   

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Wow a fat unhealthy 75 year old with high stress levels was saved in the span of a week? 

    Well that's good news for pretty much everyone else then isn't it? Except the people who have a vested interest in keeping you as frightened as a mouse cornered by the cat. 

    He was saved by the triple platinum 24\7 care (and in a couple instances) experimental treatments reserved for Mr. President that he received. If you happen to have COPD, asthma, or a history of pulmonary emboli you should be plenty frightened about covid. Just get exposed to covid (like I was last week) and see just how unconcerned you're going to be about potentially contracting it.   

    I said elsewhere he should feel great after taking dexamethasone. If he's still taking it, it may well explain his current maniacal behavior (like wanting Obama arrested).

    This is straight off the Mayo Clinic Website- some of the potential relevant side effects of dex. Coincidence?  Hmmm.... make up you own mind... Aggression, agitation, anxiety, irritability, mental depression, mood changes, nervousness, noisy rattling breathing, trouble thinking,,(LOL) speaking, or walking, troubled breathing at rest

    @hoorta said:

    You'll apparently have plenty to cry about in a month or so.. Trump is running one of the most corrupt presidencies in a long time- how many of his pals convicted on felony charges? Some for covering up for their boss lying to Congress...   

    He was saved by the triple platinum 24\7 care (and in a couple instances) experimental treatments reserved for Mr. President that he received. If you happen to have COPD, asthma, or a history of pulmonary emboli you should be plenty frightened about covid. Just get exposed to covid (like I was last week) and see just how unconcerned you're going to be about potentially contracting it.   

    I said elsewhere he should feel great after taking dexamethasone. If he's still taking it, it may well explain his current maniacal behavior (like wanting Obama arrested).

    This is straight off the Mayo Clinic Website- some of the potential relevant side effects of dex. Coincidence?  Hmmm.... make up you own mind... Aggression, agitation, anxiety, irritability, mental depression, mood changes, nervousness, noisy rattling breathing, trouble thinking,,(LOL) speaking, or walking, troubled breathing at rest

    1. Go back to makebelieve TDSland - all you have on Pres Trump and co. are fake scandals. The real scandals were your obaMao/biden/higgardly's/etc.

    https://pjmedia.com/election/matt-margolis/2020/05/15/five-scandals-that-would-threaten-joe-bidens-presidency-on-day-one-n393754

    These Five Scandals Could Sink a Joe Biden Presidency

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2019/06/12/biden-claims-there-wasnt-a-hint-of-a-scandal-during-the-obama-biden-administration-here-are-ten-n66395

    Biden Claims There Wasn’t A ‘Hint of a Scandal’ During the Obama-Biden Administration, Here are Ten

  • https://www.dailywire.com/news/rnc-releases-ad-highlighting-scandals-from-obama-biden-admin-after-biden-claimed-they-didnt-have-any

    RNC Releases Ad Highlighting Scandals From Obama-Biden Admin After Biden Claimed They Didn’t Have Any

    • The administration’s response to the Benghazi attacks.
    • Former President Barack Obama being awarded the “lie of the year” for falsely claiming that “if you like your health care plan, you can keep it.”
    • The Obama administration’s IRS investigating conservative groups.
    • Sent pallets of cash to Iran, which is the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism.
    • Armed Mexican drug cartels with weapons that were used to kill U.S. federal agents.
    • Attempted to hide long wait times across the VA health system.
    • Funded Solyndra by giving the struggling company, which eventually collapsed, hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer funded money.
    • Traded five terrorists for a U.S. soldier who “abandon[ed] his post in Afghanistan.”

    “The Biden campaign, along with their friends in the media, repeatedly try to whitewash the scandal ridden Obama/Biden administration, but the American people know the truth,” RNC Rapid Response Director Steve Guest. “From the IRS investigating conservative groups, to sending pallets of cash to the world’s top state sponsor of terrorism, arming drug dealers, and lying about the Benghazi terrorist attack, Obama-Biden continuously put their political interests ahead of the American people and Joe Biden would do so again if given the chance.”

  • @hoorta said:

    You'll apparently have plenty to cry about in a month or so.. Trump is running one of the most corrupt presidencies in a long time- how many of his pals convicted on felony charges? Some for covering up for their boss lying to Congress...   

    He was saved by the triple platinum 24\7 care (and in a couple instances) experimental treatments reserved for Mr. President that he received. If you happen to have COPD, asthma, or a history of pulmonary emboli you should be plenty frightened about covid. Just get exposed to covid (like I was last week) and see just how unconcerned you're going to be about potentially contracting it.   

    I said elsewhere he should feel great after taking dexamethasone. If he's still taking it, it may well explain his current maniacal behavior (like wanting Obama arrested).

    This is straight off the Mayo Clinic Website- some of the potential relevant side effects of dex. Coincidence?  Hmmm.... make up you own mind... Aggression, agitation, anxiety, irritability, mental depression, mood changes, nervousness, noisy rattling breathing, trouble thinking,,(LOL) speaking, or walking, troubled breathing at rest

    1. Go back to makebelieve TDSland - all you have on Pres Trump and co. are fake scandals. The real scandals were your obaMao/biden/higgardly's/etc.

    https://pjmedia.com/election/matt-margolis/2020/05/15/five-scandals-that-would-threaten-joe-bidens-presidency-on-day-one-n393754

    These Five Scandals Could Sink a Joe Biden Presidency

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2019/06/12/biden-claims-there-wasnt-a-hint-of-a-scandal-during-the-obama-biden-administration-here-are-ten-n66395

    Biden Claims There Wasn’t A ‘Hint of a Scandal’ During the Obama-Biden Administration, Here are Ten

    @calfoxwc said:

    1. Go back to makebelieve TDSland - all you have on Pres Trump and co. are fake scandals. The real scandals were your obaMao/biden/higgardly's/etc.

    That's what every Trump supporter believes- he's NEVER done anything wrong, evidence to the contrary. It works both ways Cal.... 

    I'm certainly not wasting time to dig up the reports.   The national report on Trump is coming up on November 3rd as to who believes who. 

  • @mld-woody said:

    You'd have to be a moron to think the president of the United States got the same level of treatment as an average citizen in Michigan, Ohio, NY, etc...

    The moron would be the guy who doesn't think that the Cleveland clinic is as good as any medical facility in the fucking world.

    Sure he's going to have more security and probably a nicer room. When I was in the clinic the top floor was reserved for Kings Prime Ministers and the like that came there for heart surgery. Same doctors are working on all of us. I'm sure it will be equal in your eyes when Joe Biden is sitting in the White House..

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    The moron would be the guy who doesn't think that the Cleveland clinic is as good as any medical facility in the fucking world.

    Sure he's going to have more security and probably a nicer room. When I was in the clinic the top floor was reserved for Kings Prime Ministers and the like that came there for heart surgery. Same doctors are working on all of us. I'm sure it will be equal in your eyes when Joe Biden is sitting in the White House..

    WSS

    Steve, you're either being willfully ignorant or you're just really that stupid. Let's hope it's the first one

  • @calfoxwc said:

    1. Go back to makebelieve TDSland - all you have on Pres Trump and co. are fake scandals. The real scandals were your obaMao/biden/higgardly's/etc.

    That's what every Trump supporter believes- he's NEVER done anything wrong, evidence to the contrary. It works both ways Cal.... 

    I'm certainly not wasting time to dig up the reports.   The national report on Trump is coming up on November 3rd as to who believes who. 

    @hoorta said:

    That's what every Trump supporter believes- he's NEVER done anything wrong, evidence to the contrary. It works both ways Cal.... 

    I'm certainly not wasting time to dig up the reports.   The national report on Trump is coming up on November 3rd as to who believes who. 

    Hoorta translation: "NO MAS".

    because the "russian collusion" was a deliberate fake. The "impeachment" was a deliberate fake. Lies, lies, and more lies.

    Trust me, the obamao/biden scandals were real, just like Uranium One was real. and Beghazi was real. And our soldiers died

    because of obaMao/biden "rules of engagement" were making them targets. Blaming American gun owners for the cartel crime in Mexico, then doing the "fast and furious" giveaway to the drug cartels to "prove it". etc etc etc.

    Just once - go ahead and name one genuine Pres Trump scandal. Name ONE thing President Trump has done to HURT America.

  • @westside-steve said:

    The moron would be the guy who doesn't think that the Cleveland clinic is as good as any medical facility in the fucking world.

    Sure he's going to have more security and probably a nicer room. When I was in the clinic the top floor was reserved for Kings Prime Ministers and the like that came there for heart surgery. Same doctors are working on all of us. I'm sure it will be equal in your eyes when Joe Biden is sitting in the White House..

    WSS

    Steve, you're either being willfully ignorant or you're just really that stupid. Let's hope it's the first one

    @mld-woody said:

    Steve, you're either being willfully ignorant or you're just really that stupid. Let's hope it's the first one

    You're being an asshole. I don't know if it's your idiotic socialist ideas about how you're being opressed but it doesn't matter. If you think they have one small team of really good doctors that only work on important people you're out of your fucking mind. I've had the top people at their position at the CC work on me. And yes some that were  middle of the road. What more do you think they give the president? Or a senator? Or the Sheik? Tell me what you think the difference is.

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    Steve, you're either being willfully ignorant or you're just really that stupid. Let's hope it's the first one

    You're being an asshole. I don't know if it's your idiotic socialist ideas about how you're being opressed but it doesn't matter. If you think they have one small team of really good doctors that only work on important people you're out of your fucking mind. I've had the top people at their position at the CC work on me. And yes some that were  middle of the road. What more do you think they give the president? Or a senator? Or the Sheik? Tell me what you think the difference is.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    You're being an asshole. I don't know if it's your idiotic socialist ideas about how you're being opressed but it doesn't matter. If you think they have one small team of really good doctors that only work on important people you're out of your fucking mind. I've had the top people at their position at the CC work on me. And yes some that were  middle of the road. What more do you think they give the president? Or a senator? Or the Sheik? Tell me what you think the difference is.

    WSS

    Maybe you just don't get it then. 

  • woodpecker can only talk out of his tail feathers - it's all he can do - has nothin.

  • @westside-steve said:

    You're being an asshole. I don't know if it's your idiotic socialist ideas about how you're being opressed but it doesn't matter. If you think they have one small team of really good doctors that only work on important people you're out of your fucking mind. I've had the top people at their position at the CC work on me. And yes some that were  middle of the road. What more do you think they give the president? Or a senator? Or the Sheik? Tell me what you think the difference is.

    WSS

    Maybe you just don't get it then. 

    @mld-woody said:

    Maybe you just don't get it then. 

    I do get it. Really. You want to shit on the president. I could ask you again but I don't suppose you would give me a real answer. Oh I know " typical Steve blah blah blah yur a idiot huh blah blah Trump Trump trump blah blah blah"  sure Trump is going to have a nicer room more security a little bit quicker response but in my experience not much, but besides that I don't think you could prove to me that his doctors are better than some of the ones at the Cleveland Clinic that worked on me. Or that would work on you or anybody.

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    Maybe you just don't get it then. 

    I do get it. Really. You want to shit on the president. I could ask you again but I don't suppose you would give me a real answer. Oh I know " typical Steve blah blah blah yur a idiot huh blah blah Trump Trump trump blah blah blah"  sure Trump is going to have a nicer room more security a little bit quicker response but in my experience not much, but besides that I don't think you could prove to me that his doctors are better than some of the ones at the Cleveland Clinic that worked on me. Or that would work on you or anybody.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I do get it. Really. You want to shit on the president. I could ask you again but I don't suppose you would give me a real answer. Oh I know " typical Steve blah blah blah yur a idiot huh blah blah Trump Trump trump blah blah blah"  sure Trump is going to have a nicer room more security a little bit quicker response but in my experience not much, but besides that I don't think you could prove to me that his doctors are better than some of the ones at the Cleveland Clinic that worked on me. Or that would work on you or anybody.

    WSS

    When I was diagnosed with Covid I was living in Middleburg Heights, with Southwest General (UH hospital) and Metro a short 1 mile drive away.

    I opted to drive 22 miles away to go to the Cleveland Clinic...it was a no brainer.