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  • You can never have enough pass rushers in today's NFL, and you can never have enough guys who can cover.

    I'd have no problem with the Browns taking a CB in the 1st if it made sense value-wise. 

  • Anything is a possibility except for QB (Baker fingers crossed), RB, TE, OL

    i think we target a scheme fit Olineman 5th, 6th round. Bitonio understudy. 
     

    LBs are a mess.

    Safety is a mess and Delpit is probably not going to be a major factor (if at all) until 2022.

    CB - do you pay Ward, Is Greedy an answer?

    DT- Is Larry O coming back?

    DE- Vernon gone, Gustin? 

    I go BPA in those position groups. 

    WR- OBJ and Landry are expensive and not going to be around forever.

    IF a Big time WR talent falls to us I might think about it but I think WR unless elite are luxury in this system. So I would choose carefully. 
     

    id rather think about the playoffs than the draft 

  • Front to back and inside out... that's how Ds are built.

    Premier DEs at both ends of the DL? Rare... and when it does happen, it usually doesn't last long. Only as long as the "new guy's" rookie deal as you can't afford to pay both.

    While there are some very good ILBs in the 2021 class that will get 1st-round grades (Parsons - PSU, Moses - BAMA), the class also looks pretty deep. So maybe I don't need our 1st, but damn would either of those guys look good in the middle...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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    @texasag1969 said:

    I'm thinking WR early in the draft along with maybe more back 7 on defense. BPA on those hopefully.

    Keep your hands (and thoughts) off my pick!

    I want my impact MLB dammit... I've waited long enough.

    Seriously OBJ is locked up thru 2023 and Landry thru 2022. We won't need to shed eithers' salary in 2021, so WTF would you spend our #1 on a #3 WR?

    Edit: Same goes for you Jiggie! CB? Sweet Jezus...

    @tour2ma said:

    Keep your hands (and thoughts) off my pick!

    I want my impact MLB dammit... I've waited long enough.

    Seriously OBJ is locked up thru 2023 and Landry thru 2022. We won't need to shed eithers' salary in 2021, so WTF would you spend our #1 on a #3 WR?

    Edit: Same goes for you Jiggie! CB? Sweet Jezus...

    I didn't say the #1. I said a high draft choice as in more likely#2. I'm with you on a dominating MLB. The best defenses all have one. I'm hoping we can exploit Indy's injury at that position in the game tomorrow. If Micah Parsons of Penn State is still there when we pick, that would be a good starting place. A better shot for Bama's Dylan Moses who seems to be a mid-first kind of pick so far in mocks. Otherwise OSU's Browning in rd #2. #1 would be too big a jump.

    My sleeper in the position is the very versatile Garret Wallow of TCU.

    EDIT: Just saw your post above this after posting this response to the other. Looks like we are on exactly the same page with Parsons and Moses.?

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  • I knew you were smart... 😉

    And I wrote above there are some good Day 2 choices as well including UGA's Rice and Auburn's Britt.

    Also curious to see how tOSU's Browning has developed. I hear The Big 10 (or so) will start playing any month now.

    So there are lots of options.

    I think most will be shocked if we spend more than two 2021-picks on non-Defensive players.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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    I knew you were smart... 😉

    And I wrote above there are some good Day 2 choices as well including UGA's Rice and Auburn's Britt.

    Also curious to see how tOSU's Browning has developed. I hear The Big 10 (or so) will start playing any month now.

    So there are lots of options.

    I think most will be shocked if we spend more than two 2021-picks on non-Defensive players.

    @tour2ma said:

    I knew you were smart... 😉

    I think most will be shocked if we spend more than two 2021-picks on non-Defensive players.

    Depends if there is a BPA sitting right there that is so offensive we just have to take him.?

  • Parsons will be long gone by the Brown's pick I think. Way too early to think much about the draft. It isn't even nov yet. lol

    I agree that surely it's a defensive player with the first pick. Offhand, I'd say LB, or safety. Maybe a star end rusher, but it seems they don't need that - like they do a lb or safety. Although.....a slot corner with the ability to become an outside corner... maybe. Way, way too early.

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    Parsons will be long gone by the Brown's pick I think. Way too early to think much about the draft. It isn't even nov yet. lol

    I agree that surely it's a defensive player with the first pick. Offhand, I'd say LB, or safety. Maybe a star end rusher, but it seems they don't need that - like they do a lb or safety. Although.....a slot corner with the ability to become an outside corner... maybe. Way, way too early.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Parsons will be long gone by the Brown's pick I think. Way too early to think much about the draft. It isn't even nov yet. lol

    I agree that surely it's a defensive player with the first pick. Offhand, I'd say LB, or safety. Maybe a star end rusher, but it seems they don't need that - like they do a lb or safety. Although.....a slot corner with the ability to become an outside corner... maybe. Way, way too early.

    I agree. I want to see what we look like when all Def is healthy.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    I knew you were smart... 😉

    And I wrote above there are some good Day 2 choices as well including UGA's Rice and Auburn's Britt.

    Also curious to see how tOSU's Browning has developed. I hear The Big 10 (or so) will start playing any month now.

    So there are lots of options.

    I think most will be shocked if we spend more than two 2021-picks on non-Defensive players.

    @tour2ma said:

    I knew you were smart... 😉

    And I wrote above there are some good Day 2 choices as well including UGA's Rice and Auburn's Britt.

    Also curious to see how tOSU's Browning has developed. I hear The Big 10 (or so) will start playing any month now.

    So there are lots of options.

    I think most will be shocked if we spend more than two 2021-picks on non-Defensive players.

    Chazz Surratt UNC LB will be a player at the next level.  Great athlete just learning the LB position but looks the part.  Probably Day 2 guy too.  

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    I am going to call it a fair amount of disrespect towards him that has him boiling.  

    @the-gipper said:

    I am going to call it a fair amount of disrespect towards him that has him boiling.  

    He had to know with OBJ on the team, he'd have limited targets, plus got to give the new toy (Hooper) some plays. 

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    @the-gipper said:

    I am going to call it a fair amount of disrespect towards him that has him boiling.  

    He had to know with OBJ on the team, he'd have limited targets, plus got to give the new toy (Hooper) some plays. 

    @icecube said:

    He had to know with OBJ on the team, he'd have limited targets, plus got to give the new toy (Hooper) some plays. 

    I think it is the fact that he is not being given the shot at the #3 WR spot that may irk him.   They have been giving more plays to Hodge et al than to him.   I think he is probably fine with OBJ and with Hooper....But Hodge....and even TE Bryant getting more?  That may be a cut to him. 

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  • gumby73G gumby73

    @tour2ma said:

    Weirdest Title of the Year nominee for sure...

    Did Mudfly leave for a sandwich & steal the whole damm food trailer?  ?   Man, I miss your two's good back & fourths...  Hope all is well with the Mud-man ? 

    Edit-- The only gadget guy Stef may have another bullet for vs. Higgins is currently on PS.. WR/KR/PR Ryan Switzer.. If you see his name pop to 53? Stef has a coaching style plan of JoJo's style at WR.. And the confidence of DPJ of a rookie returner take a early seat too.. stay tuned, this could go 3 ways vs a excellent Colts defense if Jet sweeps are part of the Stef playbook this week

    @gumby73 said:

    And the confidence of DPJ of a rookie returner take a early seat too.. stay tuned,

    Man that guy scares the life outa me.  He very nearly lost us the game on one of the kickoffs.  First he tried to field the kickoff that was bouncing and by some miracle it got under his hands and between his legs without being touched...and then it was looking like it might not make it to the end zone, as he was watching it like he's a fan in the stands...and then by the grace of the football Gods it rolled into the end zone 'just' before the kicking team got to it to recover the 'live' ball.  -  It's like he didn't know the rules. 

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @icecube said:

    He had to know with OBJ on the team, he'd have limited targets, plus got to give the new toy (Hooper) some plays. 

    I think it is the fact that he is not being given the shot at the #3 WR spot that may irk him.   They have been giving more plays to Hodge et al than to him.   I think he is probably fine with OBJ and with Hooper....But Hodge....and even TE Bryant getting more?  That may be a cut to him. 

    @the-gipper said:

    I think it is the fact that he is not being given the shot at the #3 WR spot that may irk him.   They have been giving more plays to Hodge et al than to him.   I think he is probably fine with OBJ and with Hooper....But Hodge....and even TE Bryant getting more?  That may be a cut to him. 

    Hmmm, I'm sure it is. But we don't know what's happening at practice, in locker room, etc. Hell, if they keep winning no one gives a shit. 

  • OrionO Orion

    @gumby73 said:

    And the confidence of DPJ of a rookie returner take a early seat too.. stay tuned,

    Man that guy scares the life outa me.  He very nearly lost us the game on one of the kickoffs.  First he tried to field the kickoff that was bouncing and by some miracle it got under his hands and between his legs without being touched...and then it was looking like it might not make it to the end zone, as he was watching it like he's a fan in the stands...and then by the grace of the football Gods it rolled into the end zone 'just' before the kicking team got to it to recover the 'live' ball.  -  It's like he didn't know the rules. 

    @orion said:

    Man that guy scares the life outa me.  He very nearly lost us the game on one of the kickoffs.  First he tried to field the kickoff that was bouncing and by some miracle it got under his hands and between his legs without being touched...and then it was looking like it might not make it to the end zone, as he was watching it like he's a fan in the stands...and then by the grace of the football Gods it rolled into the end zone 'just' before the kicking team got to it to recover the 'live' ball.  -  It's like he didn't know the rules. 

    After that kick off sure he did learn the rules. He got a speech by the ST coach I think. I think he'll know better after that one...

  • NeroN Nero

    @orion said:

    Man that guy scares the life outa me.  He very nearly lost us the game on one of the kickoffs.  First he tried to field the kickoff that was bouncing and by some miracle it got under his hands and between his legs without being touched...and then it was looking like it might not make it to the end zone, as he was watching it like he's a fan in the stands...and then by the grace of the football Gods it rolled into the end zone 'just' before the kicking team got to it to recover the 'live' ball.  -  It's like he didn't know the rules. 

    After that kick off sure he did learn the rules. He got a speech by the ST coach I think. I think he'll know better after that one...

    @nero said:

    After that kick off sure he did learn the rules. He got a speech by the ST coach I think. I think he'll know better after that one...

    Yep, he got him right on the sidelines before he was even off the field.

  • What I don't understand is all the trouble AB went through to keep him on the roster.. And now they don't use him?... what gives , man?

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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    What I don't understand is all the trouble AB went through to keep him on the roster.. And now they don't use him?... what gives , man?

    @nickers said:

    What I don't understand is all the trouble AB went to keep him on the roster.. And now they don't use him?... what gives , man?

    Careful when you use "AB"....for a moment I was confused thinking you were talking about Antonio Brown.    But, I know you mean Andrew Berry. 

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @nickers said:

    What I don't understand is all the trouble AB went to keep him on the roster.. And now they don't use him?... what gives , man?

    Careful when you use "AB"....for a moment I was confused thinking you were talking about Antonio Brown.    But, I know you mean Andrew Berry. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Careful when you use "AB"....for a moment I was confused thinking you were talking about Antonio Brown.    But, I know you mean Andrew Berry. 

    I took that into account.... Glad you could suss it out chief...

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • nickersN nickers

    @the-gipper said:

    Careful when you use "AB"....for a moment I was confused thinking you were talking about Antonio Brown.    But, I know you mean Andrew Berry. 

    I took that into account.... Glad you could suss it out chief...

    @nickers said:

    I took that into account.... Glad you could suss it out chief...

    Sometimes these very generic "nickersnames"  can confuse people.   So, let's come up with a proper, unique nickname for Berry.   

    Maybe something Hip-Hop  like:  G-MAB.   (General Manager Andrew Berry?).   

    Or:  The Big Fleshy Fruit.  Or the Big Pericarp.  Or...Eggheadplant  (combining a "berry" with his Harvard background). 

    In botany, a berry is a fleshy fruit without a stone (pit) produced from a single flower containing one ovary. Berries so defined include grapes, currants, and tomatoes, as well as cucumbers, eggplants (aubergines) and bananas, but exclude certain fruits that meet the culinary definition of berries, such as strawberries and raspberries. The berry is the most common type of fleshy fruit in which the entire outer layer of the ovary wall ripens into a potentially edible "pericarp". Berries may be formed from one or more carpels from the same flower (i.e. from a simple or a compound ovary). The seeds are usually embedded in the fleshy interior of the ovary, but there are some non-fleshy exceptions, such as peppers, with air rather than pulp around their seeds.

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  • nickersN nickers

    What I don't understand is all the trouble AB went through to keep him on the roster.. And now they don't use him?... what gives , man?

    @nickers said:

    ... all the trouble AB went through...

    Our GM is now ID'd by his initials...

    Cool...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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