STEELER WEEK!
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I think offensively we can run on them and the play-action passing would give them fits. We'd essentially play keep-away with the ball and then wait for Myles to make his usual game-changing play. ?
Maybe you will but literally no one has successfully run on us the entire game. Melvin Gordon did alright but second half adjustments were made and they did nothing. Miles sanders had a big run courtesy of a hold on Terrell Edmunds that wasnt called. Good luck running on our front seven. The one factor is the health of TJ Watt. It's up in the air.
Maybe you will be literally no one has successfully run on us the entire game. Melvin Gordon did alright but second half adjustments were made and they did nothing. Miles sanders had a big run courtesy of a hold on Terrell Edmunds that wasnt called. Good luck running on our front seven. The one factor is the health of TJ Watt. It's up in the air.
Exactly, health is everything. If Teller and Chubb were healthy, I'd feel better about it.
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A nightmare? Why? I'm also not discrediting the Browns. Our front seven is as stout as any in the league. The Browns run a lot. Mayfield is prone to mistakes. I frankly believe it's the other way around. We are going to find out! Any given Sunday.
I think offensively we can run on them and the play-action passing would give them fits. We'd essentially play keep-away with the ball and then wait for Myles to make his usual game-changing play. ?
I think offensively we can run on them and the play-action passing would give them fits. We'd essentially play keep-away with the ball and then wait for Myles to make his usual game-changing play. ?
It's not like our recipe for wins is going to change.
I think we'll find a more disciplined Steeler D at the start than what we saw in Indy's... at least in the 1st half. They'll be more like the Colts were in the 2nd half... less run chasing (and therefor less PAP biting). But as in the 2nd-half yesterday that should translate into more effective running.
Then look for a more aggressive run-stop effort after halftime... which sets up more PAP opportunities.
In short... I look for the script to flip from last to this coming Sunday.
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I think offensively we can run on them and the play-action passing would give them fits. We'd essentially play keep-away with the ball and then wait for Myles to make his usual game-changing play. ?
Maybe you will but literally no one has successfully run on us the entire game. Melvin Gordon did alright but second half adjustments were made and they did nothing. Miles sanders had a big run courtesy of a hold on Terrell Edmunds that wasnt called. Good luck running on our front seven. The one factor is the health of TJ Watt. It's up in the air.
Maybe you will but literally no one has successfully run on us the entire game. Melvin Gordon did alright but second half adjustments were made and they did nothing. Miles sanders had a big run courtesy of a hold on Terrell Edmunds that wasnt called. Good luck running on our front seven. The one factor is the health of TJ Watt. It's up in the air.
Well, I'd say the Colts don't have a bad front 7 either and we ended up running on them. They stuffed us on the first half, so Baker had to make plays. As the game went on, there were more spaces for the run, I think that both because we had way more time of possession and defense was getting a bit gassed and also because the pass game made the LBs have to second guess for the runs, but maybe I'm wrong.
Ironically Colts didn't have their best LB on the game either and they missed Darius Leonard big time I'd say.Their Oline isn't bad either so I see on those both sides similarities between the Steelers and the Colts, as I said in a post earlier.
And about opening the run game with the pass game... I wouldn't change Philly's WR corps by the one we have at Cleveland. -
I think offensively we can run on them and the play-action passing would give them fits. We'd essentially play keep-away with the ball and then wait for Myles to make his usual game-changing play. ?
Maybe you will but literally no one has successfully run on us the entire game. Melvin Gordon did alright but second half adjustments were made and they did nothing. Miles sanders had a big run courtesy of a hold on Terrell Edmunds that wasnt called. Good luck running on our front seven. The one factor is the health of TJ Watt. It's up in the air.
Maybe you will but literally no one has successfully run on us the entire game.
As I posted yesterday... you haven't played anyone yet... combined 3-15 record for your opponents (IIRC).
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Look who the eagles have played before now.
Can say the same about your Steelers as well... 4-0 vs NYG/DNV/HOU (w/ O'Brien)/PHI.... teams with a combined record of 3 - 15. Not that prior to this week our wins have come against sterner stuff (CIN 1-3-1; WSH 1-4; DAL 1-4... combined 3-11-1)... that tie makes all the difference.... But now we have beaten a team with a winning record.... so there's that.
I saw two full, Steeler games, HOU and NYG, and while the D looked good, the O? Not so much... Ben looked rusty as hell (to be expected), but it was Connor that really did not impress. He looked... well.... slower. I see that his YPC is up over 5 now so was it just a slow start? And has he fixed his hands cause they looked to be made of stone in the games I saw. Such was not the case with his rookie season as I remember.
Then today your vaunted D gives up 29 to an anemic Iggle team? Not a good sign... NYG is the only team they've held under 26 points to date.
Can say the same about your Steelers as well... 4-0 vs NYG/DNV/HOU (w/ O'Brien)/PHI.... teams with a combined record of 3 - 15. Not that prior to this week our wins have come against sterner stuff (CIN 1-3-1; WSH 1-4; DAL 1-4... combined 3-11-1)... that tie makes all the difference.... But now we have beaten a team with a winning record.... so there's that.
I saw two full, Steeler games, HOU and NYG, and while the D looked good, the O? Not so much... Ben looked rusty as hell (to be expected), but it was Connor that really did not impress. He looked... well.... slower. I see that his YPC is up over 5 now so was it just a slow start? And has he fixed his hands cause they looked to be made of stone in the games I saw. Such was not the case with his rookie season as I remember.
Then today your vaunted D gives up 29 to an anemic Iggle team? Not a good sign... NYG is the only team they've held under 26 points to date.
You may be whistling past the graveyard. Did you see what Claypool did? 4 TDs?
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I do. Dotson has played very well. But I’d assume DeCastro is still an important piece.
Dionte Johnson especially early on showcased some impressive speed. I think Claypool is the more complete WR and he played pretty well before this week and of course had a breakout game against Philly. Who wouldn’t want to have both available for an important game like this coming Sunday? Johnson faster of the two? I’d be fearful on those end arounds that Steelers run with Johnson back.
My feeling watching the Giants, Broncos and Eagles games this year with the Steelers they are a horizontal team. Get the ball out quickly let WRs makes plays in the past it was more play action deep shot and let Ben scramble around and make plays down the field. It appears the play caller is protecting the Oline and/or protecting the fact that Ben has lost a little zip on the ball. Just a Pure observation
Dotson only plays when Decastro has been hurt. Claypool is faster than Johnson believe it or not but we were using ray ray mcloud on those jet sweeps and he is also very fast. Johnson is a stud wr no doubt but our wr depth chart is pretty stupid.
Juju
Johnson
Claypool
Washington
Mcloud
Plus ebron/McDonald.
In no particular order.
If diontae isn't back this week we won't miss him because of the depth.
And our offense with the Matt Canada influence has gone through a rare evolution. Lots more motion, unique personnel shifts etc. It's not predicated on it but it's been implemented.
Maybe you will but literally no one has successfully run on us the entire game. Melvin Gordon did alright but second half adjustments were made and they did nothing. Miles sanders had a big run courtesy of a hold on Terrell Edmunds that wasnt called. Good luck running on our front seven. The one factor is the health of TJ Watt. It's up in the air.
I think we will challenge the second level like no other team this year and if you bring that “tackling” like you did with some of those back 7 guys- good luck.
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* WEEK 6 * Ok the AFCN shakeout is on and all games are unfortunately at 1 pm.
BAL -7.5 at PHI -and-. CIN +8.5 at IND on the undercard and then the main event,. Cleveland opened at +5.5 now +4.5 at Pittsburgh after the INDY game results.
For all of the lines from our friends at vegasinsider.com see. https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/?s=892
* WEEK 6 * Ok the AFCN shakeout is on and all games are unfortunately at 1 pm.
BAL -7.5 at PHI -and-. CIN +8.5 at IND on the undercard and then the main event,. Cleveland opened at +5.5 now +4.5 at Pittsburgh after the INDY game results.
For all of the lines from our friends at vegasinsider.com see. https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/?s=892
I don't get what's up with how they're assigning who gets what game anymore CBC\FOX. By all rights both the Browns and Bengals should be CBS. But thankfully they're not. The Bengals\Colts are FOX, Browns\Steelers CBS. 506 sports week 6 isn't out yet, but I'll be surprised if the Browns game isn't the National broadcast one... Glad that's the case, as I dropped Sunday Ticket for this year. Wouldn't have been able to DVR the game at home. Fortunately, the group of guys I watch the game with has Sunday Ticket. (And I'll be able to hang out with them- my covid quarantine is over on Saturday. Apparently the person who tested positive wasn't contagious yet. Everyone else who who was at that dinner tested negative.
) So a word of advice- be careful out there- even someone you know could be positive, and doesn't know it.
Greedy has not been around all year at all. Teller, yes, is big in the run game. But "day to day" on a Monday means he should be ready by the following Sunday.
Greedy to IR yup... https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/cb-greedy-williams-heading-to-injured-reserve-could-return-this-season
Nerve injury, the docs thought best to shut him down for a few weeks.... MHO is the league should make that 3 week return, and you can put an unlimited number of players eligible to return permanent.
You're about the only one who is constantly giving Vag crap BTW. I enjoy his takes.
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I think offensively we can run on them and the play-action passing would give them fits. We'd essentially play keep-away with the ball and then wait for Myles to make his usual game-changing play. ?
Maybe you will but literally no one has successfully run on us the entire game. Melvin Gordon did alright but second half adjustments were made and they did nothing. Miles sanders had a big run courtesy of a hold on Terrell Edmunds that wasnt called. Good luck running on our front seven. The one factor is the health of TJ Watt. It's up in the air.
Maybe you will but literally no one has successfully run on us the entire game. Melvin Gordon did alright but second half adjustments were made and they did nothing. Miles sanders had a big run courtesy of a hold on Terrell Edmunds that wasnt called. Good luck running on our front seven. The one factor is the health of TJ Watt. It's up in the air.
Well, let’s take a peek at the teams Pitt has faced so far and where their rushing offense ranks in the league:
NY Giants ranked #32 (yep dead last)
Denver ranked #29
Houston ranked #30
Philly ranked #18
The Browns are #1 so we’re going to find out how good they are at stopping the run.
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/rushing-yards-per-game
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As I posted yesterday... you haven't played anyone yet... combined 3-15 record for your opponents (IIRC).
The Texans nor the eagles are bad teams. You really think the Browns are going to have an easy go running against our front? I don't care who we've played. You saw the defense last year. It nearly carried a horrendous offense to a playoff birth. You all got routed by the Ravens. You beat the Colts but they are 3-1 in a so/so division and Old Phil ain't great. Sooo what are we talking about here?
I'm fairly certain Vince Williams is 1st or 2nd in TFL's. We then have Dupree/Watt and Bush plus Alualu who has had a career resurgence. Cam Heyward and Tuitt. You have not faced a front like ours, not even the Ravens compare. I've been saying any given Sunday, I'm not taking this game lightly but it's always the same m.o around here with downplaying the steelers.
I expect tough sledding for the Browns run game. You then have to stop Ben and Co. I obviously have a bias but you all should be more worried than you are. The Browns do not match up well.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Maybe you will but literally no one has successfully run on us the entire game. Melvin Gordon did alright but second half adjustments were made and they did nothing. Miles sanders had a big run courtesy of a hold on Terrell Edmunds that wasnt called. Good luck running on our front seven. The one factor is the health of TJ Watt. It's up in the air.
Well, let’s take a peek at the teams Pitt has faced so far and where their rushing offense ranks in the league:
NY Giants ranked #32 (yep dead last)
Denver ranked #29
Houston ranked #30
Philly ranked #18
The Browns are #1 so we’re going to find out how good they are at stopping the run.
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/rushing-yards-per-game
Well, let’s take a peek at the teams Pitt has faced so far and where their rushing offense ranks in the league:
NY Giants ranked #32 (yep dead last)
Denver ranked #29
Houston ranked #30
Philly ranked #18
The Browns are #1 so we’re going to find out how good they are at stopping the run.
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/rushing-yards-per-game
You were one with nick chubb and hunt. Chubb is out. We held Barkley to near negative yardage before he blew out his knee.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
As I posted yesterday... you haven't played anyone yet... combined 3-15 record for your opponents (IIRC).
The Texans nor the eagles are bad teams. You really think the Browns are going to have an easy go running against our front? I don't care who we've played. You saw the defense last year. It nearly carried a horrendous offense to a playoff birth. You all got routed by the Ravens. You beat the Colts but they are 3-1 in a so/so division and Old Phil ain't great. Sooo what are we talking about here?
I'm fairly certain Vince Williams is 1st or 2nd in TFL's. We then have Dupree/Watt and Bush plus Alualu who has had a career resurgence. Cam Heyward and Tuitt. You have not faced a front like ours, not even the Ravens compare. I've been saying any given Sunday, I'm not taking this game lightly but it's always the same m.o around here with downplaying the steelers.
I expect tough sledding for the Browns run game. You then have to stop Ben and Co. I obviously have a bias but you all should be more worried than you are. The Browns do not match up well.
The Texans nor the eagles are bad teams. You really think the Browns are going to have an easy go running against our front? I don't care who we've played. You saw the defense last year. It nearly carried a horrendous offense to a playoff birth. You all got routed by the Ravens. You beat the Colts but they are 3-1 in a so/so division and Old Phil ain't great. Sooo what are we talking about here?
I'm fairly certain Vince Williams is 1st or 2nd in TFL's. We then have Dupree/Watt and Bush plus Alualu who has had a career resurgence. Cam Heyward and Tuitt. You have not faced a front like ours, not even the Ravens compare. I've been saying any given Sunday, I'm not taking this game lightly but it's always the same m.o around here with downplaying the steelers.
I expect tough sledding for the Browns run game. You then have to stop Ben and Co. I obviously have a bias but you all should be more worried than you are. The Browns do not match up well.
I think that no one is saying that we match up well at all. Every reasonable Browns' fan knows that it will be very hard to win the Steelers as of today.
But:1. This team has improved from last year in some key aspects (coaching, Oline, Baker) and if I remember correctly we won you one game last year.
2. Let's say the 1-4 Texans and the 1-3-1 Eagles are not bad teams. They rank 15th and 26th on rushing yards. Wentz has 9 INTs (most in the league). They are 28 and 30th on sacks allowed per game. 29-30 on turnover ratio. We can admit that they're not shining in thes season beginning.
3. I think Steelers offense is the key here, as you said, but I don't think after the injury and father time your offense is better than last seasons, in which, once again, we got to beat you last year and we tied in the 2018 opener by pure luck.
I expect a great game and if any fan of either Browns or Steelers looks down on the other team, as of today, is making a mistake. Having said that, I think we have the tools to win. -
Well, let’s take a peek at the teams Pitt has faced so far and where their rushing offense ranks in the league:
NY Giants ranked #32 (yep dead last)
Denver ranked #29
Houston ranked #30
Philly ranked #18
The Browns are #1 so we’re going to find out how good they are at stopping the run.
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/rushing-yards-per-game
You were one with nick chubb and hunt. Chubb is out. We held Barkley to near negative yardage before he blew out his knee.
You were one with nick chubb and hunt. Chubb is out. We held Barkley to near negative yardage before he blew out his knee.
NYG's Oline was ranked as dead last by Football Outsiders before Week 5, and I don't think it improved it's rating this weekend.
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/offensive-line/2020
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As I posted yesterday... you haven't played anyone yet... combined 3-15 record for your opponents (IIRC).
The Texans nor the eagles are bad teams. You really think the Browns are going to have an easy go running against our front? I don't care who we've played. You saw the defense last year. It nearly carried a horrendous offense to a playoff birth. You all got routed by the Ravens. You beat the Colts but they are 3-1 in a so/so division and Old Phil ain't great. Sooo what are we talking about here?
I'm fairly certain Vince Williams is 1st or 2nd in TFL's. We then have Dupree/Watt and Bush plus Alualu who has had a career resurgence. Cam Heyward and Tuitt. You have not faced a front like ours, not even the Ravens compare. I've been saying any given Sunday, I'm not taking this game lightly but it's always the same m.o around here with downplaying the steelers.
I expect tough sledding for the Browns run game. You then have to stop Ben and Co. I obviously have a bias but you all should be more worried than you are. The Browns do not match up well.
You beat the Colts but they are 3-1 in a so/so division and Old Phil ain't great.
FYI, “Old Phil” is 38 years old...you know the same age as “Old Ben”.
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By what measure?
In passer rating he's 3rd behind Big Ben and Lamar in the AFCN...
... unless you include Landry's 158.3 and OBJ's 118.8...
... which still leaves him ahead of Burrows.
By conference, I assume he means the entire AFC, not just the division. Is he really claiming that Baker is ranked 16th of all the QBs in the AFC? ...by whatever measure?
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Oh I'm aware Ben is the same age. The difference is Ben hasn't lost his game. He himself has said he's had elbow pain for the better part of 14 years and this season is the first without it. He's still finding his touch which is why he was upset with the titans game getting postponed. Ben > Rivers and frankly it's never been close contrary to former fantasy football metrics.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Oh I'm aware Ben is the same age. The difference is Ben hasn't lost his game. He himself has said he's had elbow pain for the better part of 14 years and this season is the first without it. He's still finding his touch which is why he was upset with the titans game getting postponed. Ben > Rivers and frankly it's never been close contrary to former fantasy football metrics.
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* WEEK 6 * Ok the AFCN shakeout is on and all games are unfortunately at 1 pm.
BAL -7.5 at PHI -and-. CIN +8.5 at IND on the undercard and then the main event,. Cleveland opened at +5.5 now +4.5 at Pittsburgh after the INDY game results.
For all of the lines from our friends at vegasinsider.com see. https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/?s=892
I don't get what's up with how they're assigning who gets what game anymore CBC\FOX. By all rights both the Browns and Bengals should be CBS. But thankfully they're not. The Bengals\Colts are FOX, Browns\Steelers CBS. 506 sports week 6 isn't out yet, but I'll be surprised if the Browns game isn't the National broadcast one... Glad that's the case, as I dropped Sunday Ticket for this year. Wouldn't have been able to DVR the game at home. Fortunately, the group of guys I watch the game with has Sunday Ticket. (And I'll be able to hang out with them- my covid quarantine is over on Saturday. Apparently the person who tested positive wasn't contagious yet. Everyone else who who was at that dinner tested negative.
) So a word of advice- be careful out there- even someone you know could be positive, and doesn't know it.
Greedy has not been around all year at all. Teller, yes, is big in the run game. But "day to day" on a Monday means he should be ready by the following Sunday.
Greedy to IR yup... https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/cb-greedy-williams-heading-to-injured-reserve-could-return-this-season
Nerve injury, the docs thought best to shut him down for a few weeks.... MHO is the league should make that 3 week return, and you can put an unlimited number of players eligible to return permanent.
You're about the only one who is constantly giving Vag crap BTW. I enjoy his takes.
I don't get what's up with how they're assigning who gets what game anymore CBC\FOX. By all rights both the Browns and Bengals should be CBS. But thankfully they're not. The Bengals\Colts are FOX, Browns\Steelers CBS. 506 sports week 6 isn't out yet, but I'll be surprised if the Browns game isn't the National broadcast one... Glad that's the case, as I dropped Sunday Ticket for this year. Wouldn't have been able to DVR the game at home. Fortunately, the group of guys I watch the game with has Sunday Ticket. (And I'll be able to hang out with them- my covid quarantine is over on Saturday. Apparently the person who tested positive wasn't contagious yet. Everyone else who who was at that dinner tested negative.
) So a word of advice- be careful out there- even someone you know could be positive, and doesn't know it.
Greedy to IR yup... https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/cb-greedy-williams-heading-to-injured-reserve-could-return-this-season
Nerve injury, the docs thought best to shut him down for a few weeks.... MHO is the league should make that 3 week return, and you can put an unlimited number of players eligible to return permanent.
You're about the only one who is constantly giving Vag crap BTW. I enjoy his takes.
So? It is no longer politically correct round here to plant facials on Steeler fans?
What kind of snowflakes have we become that we catch bitch slap stupid Steeler fans? Yes, I pull the wings off that little fly, mostly time in an attempt to counter his absolute homerism. Some of the the time in jest, sometimes in earnest. But, seriously....when did this become the place for the limp wristed? .
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Maybe you will but literally no one has successfully run on us the entire game. Melvin Gordon did alright but second half adjustments were made and they did nothing. Miles sanders had a big run courtesy of a hold on Terrell Edmunds that wasnt called. Good luck running on our front seven. The one factor is the health of TJ Watt. It's up in the air.
Well, let’s take a peek at the teams Pitt has faced so far and where their rushing offense ranks in the league:
NY Giants ranked #32 (yep dead last)
Denver ranked #29
Houston ranked #30
Philly ranked #18
The Browns are #1 so we’re going to find out how good they are at stopping the run.
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/rushing-yards-per-game
Well, let’s take a peek at the teams Pitt has faced so far and where their rushing offense ranks in the league:
NY Giants ranked #32 (yep dead last)
Denver ranked #29
Houston ranked #30
Philly ranked #18
The Browns are #1 so we’re going to find out how good they are at stopping the run.
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/rushing-yards-per-game
His counter arguement, not that I fully buy it necessarily , could be that those teams are so low rated because they had to pay their defense. To a very small extent that is true. But the Steeler's were only one of like 5 defenses those teams had to play....so they were bad against everyone, not just them.
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