STEELER WEEK!
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and for those that like to mention PFF (I'm not a fan) our rookie Guard dotson was just rated the best pass blocking guard in the league. Decastro is almost certainly not playing this week. Pouncey was a full participant today, as was diontae johnson.
and for those that like to mention PFF (I'm not a fan) our rookie Guard dotson was just rated the best pass blocking guard in the league.
Cool... what was his run rating?
BTW... our right side were both rated the best at their position at the quarter pole... that's Teller and Conklin... run and pass.
Guess I am not a fan either*...
* Actually I am a fan of PFF's OL work. I graded ours for a couple years and found we agreed a high percentage of the time.
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I was just giving you a hard time. I definitely throw on my shades too.
HOWEVER acting like we've played no one is comical, i don't care about the combined win/loss. Houston nor the Eagles are a bad team, the eagles have a extremely good defensive line that is deep enough to trot out a second. The damn announcers talked about it all game long about how they have essentially two starting defensive lines. You all play them, lets see how you fare when the time comes.
The Eagles are 1-3-1 with the tie being a lucky miracle that they didn't lose to the Bengals.
Let's be real, if this was me saying "I don't care about wins/losses, Browns are a good team" while sitting at the same record - you'd have a good laugh.
Philly's dline isn't what it was. You have Fletcher Cox and then went? Hargrave is a below average starter - Josh Sweat and Derek Barnett are just-above-average starting ends and Brandon Graham is a serviceable starter who is getting long in the tooth. If Cox goes down, that Philly line is super fucked.
The Eagles are 1-3-1 with the tie being a lucky miracle that they didn't lose to the Bengals.
Let's be real, if this was me saying "I don't care about wins/losses, Browns are a good team" while sitting at the same record - you'd have a good laugh.
Philly's dline isn't what it was. You have Fletcher Cox and then went? Hargrave is a below average starter - Josh Sweat and Derek Barnett are just-above-average starting ends and Brandon Graham is a serviceable starter who is getting long in the tooth. If Cox goes down, that Philly line is super fucked.
Hargrave is not a below average starter, hargrave was a beast for us but miscast as a nose tackle. Brandon Graham doesn't ring a bell? you may want to check that man's career sack totals.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
and for those that like to mention PFF (I'm not a fan) our rookie Guard dotson was just rated the best pass blocking guard in the league.
Cool... what was his run rating?
BTW... our right side were both rated the best at their position at the quarter pole... that's Teller and Conklin... run and pass.
Guess I am not a fan either*...
* Actually I am a fan of PFF's OL work. I graded ours for a couple years and found we agreed a high percentage of the time.
Cool... what was his run rating?
BTW... our right side were both rated the best at their position at the quarter pole... that's Teller and Conklin... run and pass.
Guess I am not a fan either*...
* Actually I am a fan of PFF's OL work. I graded ours for a couple years and found we agreed a high percentage of the time.
He's a road grader so he's good on the ground too. I guess you are about to find out.
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- I was just giving you a hard time. I definitely throw on my shades too.
- HOWEVER acting like we've played no one is comical, i don't care about the combined win/loss. Houston nor the Eagles are a bad team, the eagles have a extremely good defensive line that is deep enough to trot out a second. The damn announcers talked about it all game long about how they have essentially two starting defensive lines. You all play them, lets see how you fare when the time comes.
- Fair enough...
- Thanks... I'll be here all week?
But (once again) I must point out that HOU:
- quit playing for O'Brien.
- is dead last in rushing yards allowed.
- is -5 in turnover ratio.
- T-27th in sacks allowed.
HOU may not be bad now, but they were when you played them.
And PHI...
- is #18 in run D.
- is -6 in turnover ratio.
- 14th in rushing.
- 30th in sacks allowed.
The Iggles are mediocre at best... so tell me more about Philly's DL... 4 of the 22 starters they put on the field.
- Fair enough...
- Thanks... I'll be here all week?
But (once again) I must point out that HOU:
- quit playing for O'Brien.
- is dead last in rushing yards allowed.
- is -5 in turnover ratio.
- T-27th in sacks allowed.
HOU may not be bad now, but they were when you played them.
And PHI...
- is #18 in run D.
- is -6 in turnover ratio.
- 14th in rushing.
- 30th in sacks allowed.
The Iggles are mediocre at best... so tell me more about Philly's DL... 4 of the 22 starters they put on the field.
Let me help you out. The texans have played
Chiefs
Ravens
Steelers
Vikings
Jags
The Browns record would likely be the same with that schedule, are the browns a bad team?
I will wait for you to reevaluate your previous position on the Texans.
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- Fair enough...
- Thanks... I'll be here all week?
But (once again) I must point out that HOU:
- quit playing for O'Brien.
- is dead last in rushing yards allowed.
- is -5 in turnover ratio.
- T-27th in sacks allowed.
HOU may not be bad now, but they were when you played them.
And PHI...
- is #18 in run D.
- is -6 in turnover ratio.
- 14th in rushing.
- 30th in sacks allowed.
The Iggles are mediocre at best... so tell me more about Philly's DL... 4 of the 22 starters they put on the field.
Hey you better hope the eagles aren't healthy when you all play them, i was really just talking about that d-line and Slay is a very good corner. It's a banged up team, not a bad team. You should also check to see who houston has played, "gipper"
Hey you better hope the eagles aren't healthy when you all play them, i was really just talking about that d-line and Slay is a very good corner. It's a banged up team, not a bad team. You should also check to see who houston has played, "gipper"
PHI is a bad team and a good "d-line" does not make them better.
HOU was not a good team when you played them... I've seen them three times this year. I am married to a Texans fan.
How many times have you seen them O great PA-Gipper?
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Does anyone think it will matter one iota whose schedule was tougher come Sunday at 1pm?
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The Eagles are 1-3-1 with the tie being a lucky miracle that they didn't lose to the Bengals.
Let's be real, if this was me saying "I don't care about wins/losses, Browns are a good team" while sitting at the same record - you'd have a good laugh.
Philly's dline isn't what it was. You have Fletcher Cox and then went? Hargrave is a below average starter - Josh Sweat and Derek Barnett are just-above-average starting ends and Brandon Graham is a serviceable starter who is getting long in the tooth. If Cox goes down, that Philly line is super fucked.
Hargrave is not a below average starter, hargrave was a beast for us but miscast as a nose tackle. Brandon Graham doesn't ring a bell? you may want to check that man's career sack totals.
Hargrave is not a below average starter, hargrave was a beast for us but miscast as a nose tackle. Brandon Graham doesn't ring a bell? you may want to check that man's career sack totals.
Hargrave has been roasted pretty bad this year playing next to Cox. Right now he is not playing anything like a "beast". They've faced 2 teams with quality lines and guess what..?
Vs Rams they gave up 191 yards on the ground.
vs Steelers 146 yards on the ground.
And I'm very well aware of who Brandon Graham is. Notice how I mentioned him? Sack career totals are great, but if the Eagles can't limit anything on the interior then their pass rush really doesn't mean a damn thing.
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And today's Injury Reports...
See, this is why I wanted to bring Bell in on the cheap. The Browns are rolling right now and can't trust that unproven guys like Johnson can carry the load. Bell can do it all, he may be a head case, but just sign him on a 1-year deal.
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One reason I can see the Browns winning Sunday is that this team under Stefanski seems way more mentally tough, more resilient than any Browns team since coming back in '99.
But I won't lie, I'm scared to see a good veteran QB against our defense... especially considering that good vet QB has a very good defense behind him.
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One reason I can see the Browns winning Sunday is that this team under Stefanski seems way more mentally tough, more resilient than any Browns team since coming back in '99.
But I won't lie, I'm scared to see a good veteran QB against our defense... especially considering that good vet QB has a very good defense behind him.
One reason I can see the Browns winning Sunday is that this team under Stefanski seems way more mentally tough, more resilient than any Browns team since coming back in '99.
But I won't lie, I'm scared to see a good veteran QB against our defense... especially considering that good vet QB has a very good defense behind him.
I’m more concerned with legit dual threat QBs. Guys like Jackson, Watson...we can call it right on D and we still give up a big play.
Let’s go down the list...good vet QBs and very good defenses.
The schedule: Squealers, Bengals, Raiders, Texans, Titans, Eagles, Giants, Jets, Jax, Ravens
are we calling Ben good?
Titans fit with Tannehill?
the Raiduhs?
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One reason I can see the Browns winning Sunday is that this team under Stefanski seems way more mentally tough, more resilient than any Browns team since coming back in '99.
But I won't lie, I'm scared to see a good veteran QB against our defense... especially considering that good vet QB has a very good defense behind him.
I’m more concerned with legit dual threat QBs. Guys like Jackson, Watson...we can call it right on D and we still give up a big play.
Let’s go down the list...good vet QBs and very good defenses.
The schedule: Squealers, Bengals, Raiders, Texans, Titans, Eagles, Giants, Jets, Jax, Ravens
are we calling Ben good?
Titans fit with Tannehill?
the Raiduhs?
I’m more concerned with legit dual threat QBs. Guys like Jackson, Watson...we can call it right on D and we still give up a big play.
Let’s go down the list...good vet QBs and very good defenses.
The schedule: Squealers, Bengals, Raiders, Texans, Titans, Eagles, Giants, Jets, Jax, Ravens
are we calling Ben good?
Titans fit with Tannehill?
the Raiduhs?
Oh yeah, I've mentioned that before... the Browns schedule has become pretty weak.
But they still have those four games vs the Steelers (twice), Ravens and the Titans, and I still think the Texans and Eagles are very capable of producing a tough game.
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I’m more concerned with legit dual threat QBs. Guys like Jackson, Watson...we can call it right on D and we still give up a big play.
Let’s go down the list...good vet QBs and very good defenses.
The schedule: Squealers, Bengals, Raiders, Texans, Titans, Eagles, Giants, Jets, Jax, Ravens
are we calling Ben good?
Titans fit with Tannehill?
the Raiduhs?
Oh yeah, I've mentioned that before... the Browns schedule has become pretty weak.
But they still have those four games vs the Steelers (twice), Ravens and the Titans, and I still think the Texans and Eagles are very capable of producing a tough game.
Oh yeah, I've mentioned that before... the Browns schedule has become pretty weak.
But they still have those four games vs the Steelers (twice), Ravens and the Titans, and I still think the Texans and Eagles are very capable of producing a tough game.
They are all toss ups with our defensive being a mystery. Maybe Jax, Jets and Giants we need to play poorly to lose.
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Hey you better hope the eagles aren't healthy when you all play them, i was really just talking about that d-line and Slay is a very good corner. It's a banged up team, not a bad team. You should also check to see who houston has played, "gipper"
PHI is a bad team and a good "d-line" does not make them better.
HOU was not a good team when you played them... I've seen them three times this year. I am married to a Texans fan.
How many times have you seen them O great PA-Gipper?
PHI is a bad team and a good "d-line" does not make them better.
HOU was not a good team when you played them... I've seen them three times this year. I am married to a Texans fan.
How many times have you seen them O great PA-Gipper?
I've watched a lot of those games for fantasy football reasons. I watch a lot of games period for that reason, I'm in 4 leagues this year.
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I know it doesn't matter, but trying to say Ben sucks is just not true. Did any of you check out the Philly game? He called audibles that most QBs wouldn't know to do, and clicked with Claypool for 3 passing TDs, one run. I hope the Browns don't take Ben lightly.
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I don't think anyone is saying that Ben sucks. He's a HOF QB, but his best times are behind him. Understandably so. Steelers have been considered one of the top teams of the league and it's legit since they have performed well for many years, and sometimes that makes you value the names more than the performance, and I don't think that Ben or other veteran Dlinemen's names are as scary as they were some years ago.
The worst thing is as Dutch said is that he's a veteran and can find the weak spots of our secondary easily, so it's vital for us to keep him guessing, and give enough time for our pass rush to reach him and at least force some hurries.
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