STEELER WEEK!
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Ebron can handle himself, the dude has bricks for hands.
That being said, the line is -3 Pittsburgh. I'm taking them to cover, but not by much.
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Not really, which is why they will bring a TE over to help or chip him with a RB. MG will get a sack or 2. But that won't be enough to stop Pitt from scoring over 30. Who's gonna handle Claypool? Ebron? Cleveland's safeties are trash.
I don’t know how they stop any of these guys!!! Claypool had six catches in his pro career prior to the Eagles game. Seriously We better play in a box well tackle these WRs on the inevitable quick throws and keep Conner in check (has he really gone off this year?)
maybe we have to score over 30 like we’ve done quite a few times this year- deploy OBJ, Landry, Hooper, Hunt and strut into town with our elite Oline.
deploy OBJ, Landry, Hooper, Hunt and strut into town with our elite Oline.
Ok Kitchens...don't forget about Hollywood Higgins...geesh...
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Ebron can handle himself, the dude has bricks for hands.
That being said, the line is -3 Pittsburgh. I'm taking them to cover, but not by much.
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Updates... and it ain't good... Teller and Joseph OUT.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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deploy OBJ, Landry, Hooper, Hunt and strut into town with our elite Oline.
Ok Kitchens...don't forget about Hollywood Higgins...geesh...
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Updates... and it ain't good... Teller and Joseph OUT.
I really don't know what we're going to do on defense. The Steelers' offense is cooking right now and I think we'd have a tough time stopping them if healthy, but now we look like such a MASH unit that I don't see a plausible way of stopping them consistently.
The issue is time. The strength of our defense is our DL, but that's not going to matter much to Ben because he leads the league in quickest release (2.2 seconds) and virtually all of their passing attack stems from quick hitters and drag routes across the middle. Where is our defense most vulnerable? Yeah...right there. When you factor in all of the injuries, it really looks bad, mainly because Pittsburgh doesn't turn it over, and that's largely how our defense has made up for several shortcomings.
Offensively, it doesn't look much better. We're totally and utterly beat up, with Teller and Chubb both out (our best players minus Myles so far) and we're going up against one of the best rush defenses in the league. We saw last week that our powerful rushing attack was largely stymied by a stout defense, and while Hubbard provided solid pass protection, he was nowhere near as effective in the run game. (DeForest Buckner is also not fun to play against btw)
Perhaps most importantly, Baker Mayfield is injured, and it's likely worse than the he's letting on. I also think he hurt more than just his ribs and that his shoulder and/or wrist is hurt. Of all the effing games to be injured in, it's THIS one. The game where Mayfield is going to be hit the most. It's terrible luck and it's not going to surprise me if he doesn't make it all game.
The Steelers have some important injuries as well but not as dramatic as ours. I almost think it's worth resting Mayfield for this game so he can rest his injuries and get a solid two weeks of healing. Of course that would never happen because this game is just too important, but the car can be made to heal Baker up because I can promise you one thing....Baker will not be feeling ANY better on Monday morning. We risk losing him for more time, but whatever. It's hardly worth talking about because it won't happen.
My last point isn't fun to discuss, but it's something that is being pointed out week after week. Baker is missing too many easy reads and continues to avoid hitting the RB out of the backfield. I've seen multiple film reviews that all say and show the same thing. Baker is simply missing far too many EASY plays and it's got to stop. I'm not even talking about the high throws that he still does, I'm talking about missing wide open easy throws that are directly in his line of sight. Can he fix this? I don't know. It's rather mind-melting that it happens at all. He's not finding the passing lanes, he's not climbing the pocket, and he's not hitting check downs.
And yet we're winning and he's still playing pretty well despite the shortcomings. I'm very proud of Baker and I definitely AM seeing some progress, but he really needs to find some way to increase his percentage of making simple completions when they present themselves. OBJ is beginning to get a bit frustrated, and I don't blame him. Baker missed him a ton the last two weeks and it's hard to watch at times. The good news is that it's Baker's first year in the system and he's still playing WINNING football. He's got the tools to be better, but I don't think we should be too harsh on him this weekend if he doesn't play well. This game is not shaping up to be great for us, but you never know....any given Sunday!
I'm 4-1 calling games this year, and unfortunately I'm predicting Steelers 36 and Browns 19.
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Updates... and it ain't good... Teller and Joseph OUT.
I really don't know what we're going to do on defense. The Steelers' offense is cooking right now and I think we'd have a tough time stopping them if healthy, but now we look like such a MASH unit that I don't see a plausible way of stopping them consistently.
The issue is time. The strength of our defense is our DL, but that's not going to matter much to Ben because he leads the league in quickest release (2.2 seconds) and virtually all of their passing attack stems from quick hitters and drag routes across the middle. Where is our defense most vulnerable? Yeah...right there. When you factor in all of the injuries, it really looks bad, mainly because Pittsburgh doesn't turn it over, and that's largely how our defense has made up for several shortcomings.
Offensively, it doesn't look much better. We're totally and utterly beat up, with Teller and Chubb both out (our best players minus Myles so far) and we're going up against one of the best rush defenses in the league. We saw last week that our powerful rushing attack was largely stymied by a stout defense, and while Hubbard provided solid pass protection, he was nowhere near as effective in the run game. (DeForest Buckner is also not fun to play against btw)
Perhaps most importantly, Baker Mayfield is injured, and it's likely worse than the he's letting on. I also think he hurt more than just his ribs and that his shoulder and/or wrist is hurt. Of all the effing games to be injured in, it's THIS one. The game where Mayfield is going to be hit the most. It's terrible luck and it's not going to surprise me if he doesn't make it all game.
The Steelers have some important injuries as well but not as dramatic as ours. I almost think it's worth resting Mayfield for this game so he can rest his injuries and get a solid two weeks of healing. Of course that would never happen because this game is just too important, but the car can be made to heal Baker up because I can promise you one thing....Baker will not be feeling ANY better on Monday morning. We risk losing him for more time, but whatever. It's hardly worth talking about because it won't happen.
My last point isn't fun to discuss, but it's something that is being pointed out week after week. Baker is missing too many easy reads and continues to avoid hitting the RB out of the backfield. I've seen multiple film reviews that all say and show the same thing. Baker is simply missing far too many EASY plays and it's got to stop. I'm not even talking about the high throws that he still does, I'm talking about missing wide open easy throws that are directly in his line of sight. Can he fix this? I don't know. It's rather mind-melting that it happens at all. He's not finding the passing lanes, he's not climbing the pocket, and he's not hitting check downs.
And yet we're winning and he's still playing pretty well despite the shortcomings. I'm very proud of Baker and I definitely AM seeing some progress, but he really needs to find some way to increase his percentage of making simple completions when they present themselves. OBJ is beginning to get a bit frustrated, and I don't blame him. Baker missed him a ton the last two weeks and it's hard to watch at times. The good news is that it's Baker's first year in the system and he's still playing WINNING football. He's got the tools to be better, but I don't think we should be too harsh on him this weekend if he doesn't play well. This game is not shaping up to be great for us, but you never know....any given Sunday!
I'm 4-1 calling games this year, and unfortunately I'm predicting Steelers 36 and Browns 19.
I'm 4-1 calling games this year, and unfortunately I'm predicting Steelers 36 and Browns 19.
Great post! But you have the score wrong. lol I'm calling Browns 51-31. lol
dammit.
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Can we get Jiggins to change his name to "Panic Pete?" ? we are now allowing weed smoking on the outside patio Tavern
? We can't tell Tour2ma ?
It's Not easy finding a team weakness between these 2 teams.. The one that sets up well for us would be "Pittsburgh ranks dead last (32) in the NFL in 'open field tackling".. And they ain't played a team that blocks as well downfield as our RB/TE*/*WR* core... This is not the game to see Baker hold on to the ball longer than 3 seconds in pocket. Get the ball out, and let the playmakers go to work downfield on passing downs..Stef won't miss this, cause it's that clear on pitts. gametape.. This early, while mixing in the RB's playbook, should lead to taking some, single cover deep shots if called for.. Were the offense with the most Offensive weapons.. This game will take using every single one of them//
Running the ball directional charts will show you don't run east & west against this team.. The ground & pound game goes north & south, between the 2 tackles in this one.The push has to happen at C & both G's.We can't see slow developing running plays & RB's can't set-up to deep in the backfield. Tape shows these are quick hitters,with not much wasted steps in hitting these holes.. We will certainly see what we fixed in pass pro, in the tackle position upgrades of Conklin & Wills ?..Both teams missing starting Guards feels like a true dead heat scratch till further review..
Good to see is our front defensive 7 may be back & ready to go in this one.. But, No wonder we drafted a Safety with our 2nd pick..Drafting 3 more may have been a better idea
... S Karl Joseph will be out again just like the Colts game. Ronnie Harrison played 37 snaps..RedWine saw his first 19 defensive snaps finishing up for Harrison, who will now also be out vs. Pittsburgh with a concussion.. So we Rock & Rollout Sendejo & Redwine at starting Safeties.. watching for a PS add most likely would be S Jovante Moffatt who was brought up last week to 53.. But they also have liked protecting PS player S **Elijah Benton..stay tuned..
We can do this, and the 17 years of losing at Pittsburgh's jinx house could come off the books also.. This team was built to knock the losing jinx walls down.. It's their time to make their own history books..And we're all sure, as heck Enjoying this ride!! Win or Lose.. Go Browns!!
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I actually think that the Colts were the tougher matchup. I thought we were 27-20 Colts if Leonard and Castonzo played and i Figured we flip that given they were out. I think you block the edge you got opportunities on this offense and we certainly have the interior Oline to win some battles and get some yards rushing. I worry about a letdown from us because of two emotional wins in a row and a beat up team
if we know that the Steelers like to get the ball out quickly and i saw it against the Giants, Broncos and Eagles. It is time for press coverage and the hope that Garrett can disrupt things before bigger plays happen downfield. The bigger knock on Claypool coming out of the Notre Dame was route running and getting off press coverage. Pretty common with young WRs still it is worth noting it. And the Steelers outside of JuJu are very young at the position.
I don’t want 8-10 off the ball against their WRs and crappy tackling and literally no pass rush because we give up the short stuff. We will lose.
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I actually think that the Colts were the tougher matchup. I thought we were 27-20 Colts if Leonard and Castonzo played and i Figured we flip that given they were out. I think you block the edge you got opportunities on this offense and we certainly have the interior Oline to win some battles and get some yards rushing. I worry about a letdown from us because of two emotional wins in a row and a beat up team
if we know that the Steelers like to get the ball out quickly and i saw it against the Giants, Broncos and Eagles. It is time for press coverage and the hope that Garrett can disrupt things before bigger plays happen downfield. The bigger knock on Claypool coming out of the Notre Dame was route running and getting off press coverage. Pretty common with young WRs still it is worth noting it. And the Steelers outside of JuJu are very young at the position.
I don’t want 8-10 off the ball against their WRs and crappy tackling and literally no pass rush because we give up the short stuff. We will lose.
I actually think that the Colts were the tougher matchup. I thought we were 27-20 Colts if Leonard and Castonzo played and i Figured we flip that given they were out. I think you block the edge you got opportunities on this offense and we certainly have the interior Oline to win some battles and get some yards rushing.
if we know that the Steelers like to get the ball out quickly and i saw it against the Giants, Broncos and Eagles. It is time for press coverage and the hope that Garrett can disrupt things before bigger plays happen downfield. The bigger knock on Claypool coming out of the Notre Dame was route running and getting off press coverage. Pretty common with young WRs still it is worth noting it. And the Steelers outside of JuJu are very young at the position.
I don’t want 8-10 off the ball against their WRs and crappy tackling and literally no pass rush because we give up the short stuff. We will lose.
I think that's the way to go. 2 years ago we used to give 10 yards every single play. No big plays, but no stops either. And the actual Steelers seem like an ideal team to get that.
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I'm 4-1 calling games this year, and unfortunately I'm predicting Steelers 36 and Browns 19.
Great post! But you have the score wrong. lol I'm calling Browns 51-31. lol
dammit.
Great post! But you have the score wrong. lol I'm calling Browns 51-31. lol
Man, I like your score so much better! I'll tell you this, if we DO somehow pull it out, the hype train will be unstoppable. Maybe I should be more considerate of all we've accomplished so far, but Pittsburgh is just that ONE team, ya know? Hope we stomp them though!
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I actually think that the Colts were the tougher matchup. I thought we were 27-20 Colts if Leonard and Castonzo played and i Figured we flip that given they were out. I think you block the edge you got opportunities on this offense and we certainly have the interior Oline to win some battles and get some yards rushing. I worry about a letdown from us because of two emotional wins in a row and a beat up team
if we know that the Steelers like to get the ball out quickly and i saw it against the Giants, Broncos and Eagles. It is time for press coverage and the hope that Garrett can disrupt things before bigger plays happen downfield. The bigger knock on Claypool coming out of the Notre Dame was route running and getting off press coverage. Pretty common with young WRs still it is worth noting it. And the Steelers outside of JuJu are very young at the position.
I don’t want 8-10 off the ball against their WRs and crappy tackling and literally no pass rush because we give up the short stuff. We will lose.
It is time for press coverage and the hope that Garrett can disrupt things before bigger plays happen downfield. The bigger knock on Claypool coming out of the Notre Dame was route running and getting off press coverage. Pretty common with young WRs still it is worth noting it. And the Steelers outside of JuJu are very young at the position.
I don’t want 8-10 off the ball against their WRs and crappy tackling and literally no pass rush because we give up the short stuff. We will lose.
^^ good defensive mindset coaches thinking here..Correct on the Claypool college scouting. Handcuff him & quit watching him run around.. Ward or Mitchell can stay in Claypools back pocket..I also like Kevin Johnson & MJ Steward doing the same on others..With D.Johnson out for Pitt. we may lose Mitchell to cover Ray Ray McCloud? but luv the attacking thoughts & we can't sit back & watch from the back car seat..Correct, we lose in this loose type of coverage
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Quit reading the Browns Board Andrew Berry ?
#Browns elevated S Elijah Benton to the active roster from the practice squad and will revert back to it following Sunday’s game11:39 AM · Oct 17, 2020
Daryl Ruiter@RuiterWrongFAN#Browns elevated S Elijah Benton to the active roster from the practice squad and will revert back to it following Sunday’s gameSafeties Moffett & Benton both active 53Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
Can we get Jiggins to change his name to "Panic Pete?" ? we are now allowing weed smoking on the outside patio Tavern
? We can't tell Tour2ma ?
It's Not easy finding a team weakness between these 2 teams.. The one that sets up well for us would be "Pittsburgh ranks dead last (32) in the NFL in 'open field tackling".. And they ain't played a team that blocks as well downfield as our RB/TE*/*WR* core... This is not the game to see Baker hold on to the ball longer than 3 seconds in pocket. Get the ball out, and let the playmakers go to work downfield on passing downs..Stef won't miss this, cause it's that clear on pitts. gametape.. This early, while mixing in the RB's playbook, should lead to taking some, single cover deep shots if called for.. Were the offense with the most Offensive weapons.. This game will take using every single one of them//
Running the ball directional charts will show you don't run east & west against this team.. The ground & pound game goes north & south, between the 2 tackles in this one.The push has to happen at C & both G's.We can't see slow developing running plays & RB's can't set-up to deep in the backfield. Tape shows these are quick hitters,with not much wasted steps in hitting these holes.. We will certainly see what we fixed in pass pro, in the tackle position upgrades of Conklin & Wills ?..Both teams missing starting Guards feels like a true dead heat scratch till further review..
Good to see is our front defensive 7 may be back & ready to go in this one.. But, No wonder we drafted a Safety with our 2nd pick..Drafting 3 more may have been a better idea
... S Karl Joseph will be out again just like the Colts game. Ronnie Harrison played 37 snaps..RedWine saw his first 19 defensive snaps finishing up for Harrison, who will now also be out vs. Pittsburgh with a concussion.. So we Rock & Rollout Sendejo & Redwine at starting Safeties.. watching for a PS add most likely would be S Jovante Moffatt who was brought up last week to 53.. But they also have liked protecting PS player S **Elijah Benton..stay tuned..
We can do this, and the 17 years of losing at Pittsburgh's jinx house could come off the books also.. This team was built to knock the losing jinx walls down.. It's their time to make their own history books..And we're all sure, as heck Enjoying this ride!! Win or Lose.. Go Browns!!
Can we get Jiggins to change his name to "Panic Pete?" ? we are now allowing weed smoking on the outside patio Tavern
? We can't tell Tour2ma ?
Panic Pete it is! ?
Listen, we beat Pittsburgh and I'm going to be the conductor on the hype train. CHOO-CHOO BITCH! Lol.
We haven't beaten them at Pittsburgh since that fateful Sunday night back in 2003 when my friend and I scraped up our money and flew up there to see Tim Couch destroy those guys! Maybe it's time. ?
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The BROWNS are looking at either 5-1 or 4-2 square in the eye and now many of us are getting nervous.
I guess that also can be good having "big game jitters". Meanwhile BAL -9.5 should win and CIN +7.5 should lose......if you believe in those tea leaves.
GO BROWNS +3.5, I guess we will find out in about 25 hours what happens !
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Browns #1 rush offense vs Steelers #2 rush defense. Gonna be interesting.
Browns last in the AFC and 30th in the NFL in pass defense vs Claypool and JuJu. Uh-oh.
Steelers a top 5 D, but so are the Colts!
https://www.footballdb.com/stats/teamstat.html?group=D&cat=T
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browns are just too beat up. Starting to come down to earth a bit about tomorrow. Who knows, this team has been surprising so far this year, hopefully they can surprise tomorrow.
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Can we get Jiggins to change his name to "Panic Pete?" ? we are now allowing weed smoking on the outside patio Tavern
? We can't tell Tour2ma ?
It's Not easy finding a team weakness between these 2 teams.. The one that sets up well for us would be "Pittsburgh ranks dead last (32) in the NFL in 'open field tackling".. And they ain't played a team that blocks as well downfield as our RB/TE*/*WR* core... This is not the game to see Baker hold on to the ball longer than 3 seconds in pocket. Get the ball out, and let the playmakers go to work downfield on passing downs..Stef won't miss this, cause it's that clear on pitts. gametape.. This early, while mixing in the RB's playbook, should lead to taking some, single cover deep shots if called for.. Were the offense with the most Offensive weapons.. This game will take using every single one of them//
Running the ball directional charts will show you don't run east & west against this team.. The ground & pound game goes north & south, between the 2 tackles in this one.The push has to happen at C & both G's.We can't see slow developing running plays & RB's can't set-up to deep in the backfield. Tape shows these are quick hitters,with not much wasted steps in hitting these holes.. We will certainly see what we fixed in pass pro, in the tackle position upgrades of Conklin & Wills ?..Both teams missing starting Guards feels like a true dead heat scratch till further review..
Good to see is our front defensive 7 may be back & ready to go in this one.. But, No wonder we drafted a Safety with our 2nd pick..Drafting 3 more may have been a better idea
... S Karl Joseph will be out again just like the Colts game. Ronnie Harrison played 37 snaps..RedWine saw his first 19 defensive snaps finishing up for Harrison, who will now also be out vs. Pittsburgh with a concussion.. So we Rock & Rollout Sendejo & Redwine at starting Safeties.. watching for a PS add most likely would be S Jovante Moffatt who was brought up last week to 53.. But they also have liked protecting PS player S **Elijah Benton..stay tuned..
We can do this, and the 17 years of losing at Pittsburgh's jinx house could come off the books also.. This team was built to knock the losing jinx walls down.. It's their time to make their own history books..And we're all sure, as heck Enjoying this ride!! Win or Lose.. Go Browns!!
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...we are now allowing weed smoking on the outside patio Tavern ? We can't tell Tour2ma ?
- This is not the game to see Baker hold on to the ball longer than 3 seconds in pocket. Get the ball out, and let the playmakers go to work downfield on passing downs.
- Running the ball directional charts will show you don't run east & west against this team.. The ground & pound game goes north & south, between the 2 tackles in this one.The push has to happen at C & both G's.We can't see slow developing running plays & RB's can't set-up to deep in the backfield. Tape shows these are quick hitters,with not much wasted steps in hitting these holes.
- Good to see is our front defensive 7 may be back & ready to go in this one.
- We can do this, and the 17 years of losing at Pittsburgh's jinx house could come off the books also.. This team was built to knock the losing jinx walls down.. It's their time to make their own history books..And we're all sure, as heck Enjoying this ride!! Win or Lose.. Go Browns!!
- As Jerry Garcia would say... Don't bogart that joint my friend...
- 3 seconds would be at least 0.5 too long. Willis will need help early and often vs. Dupree. Handling speed has been the one weakness he has shown and he knows it... most of the wins against him have been the rusher crossing his face when he sets wide for the edge rush. Gonna need a dose of "Chip" Hooper to counter that.
- Theirs is a fast D, so yes, more power runs at them are the RX, but Inside ZBS should work as well.
- May be back-ish... going to be playing hurt, if not injured.
- We can, but gotta agree with Typ Browns 50... we're too beat up this go 'round. It's more than just the ones who won't be able to go, we're going to be playing hurt. Week 17? Could be a very different story... perhaps even one with playoff implications for both teams.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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