***Browns VS Steelers GAMEDAY Thread***
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38-6 vs raturds
38-7 vs stoolers
YIKES
One thing is not like the others.
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And lo, in comes Keenum
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Thanks to Chris Pokorny.. I won't need to post anything else, because Chris saw the same thing as most here saw.. including myself
- One of the most disappointing things to see in a Browns-Steelers game is when the intensity level is visibly different between the two teams, and that was the case all game long here. Pittsburgh hit way harder and with anticipation on every play. They owned the trenches on both sides of the ball. It wasn’t even close, either — in terms of intensity, Pittsburgh was playing at a 10/10, while Cleveland looked incapable, scared, or unwilling to even register a 2/10 on that scale.
- The blame this week falls more on the offense. Yes, the defense wasn’t good either, but Mayfield turned the ball over twice early, and the offensive line couldn’t even handle four-man rushes. *The Steelers were getting such great jumps off the snap that plays were over before they could even get started*
- It wasn’t Stefanski’s best job. I think he put faith in his offensive line to handle the pressure, but they didn’t.
Well Done, Chris..
We can't keep using Baker Mayfield as this teams losing pinata... This crap fest took all 46 orange helmets, including coaches.... Stef! Ya can't have any success calling running plays against Pittsburgh or the Ravens, starting your one back sets 6-7-8 yards deep from the LOS..including Nick Chubb.. Certainly ya tip your cap to a better athletic defense.. But not making any adjustments on it? Falls on said play caller...
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I gotta deep dive this one... while we were overmatched we weren't this overmatched.
Specifically I want to see...
- ... if we ran left at all. I can't remember a single time we did. Makes no sense since we had some success right and Hubbard's was by all accounts our worst run-blocker last week.
- ... if we ran out of a 21, 22, or 23 set. Only times I remember seeing Jano were as the singleback flanking Baker in the gun for PassPro. Says we don't have another RB besides Hunt who can PassPro. Every time we showed this set we might as well said, "Pass... and the pocket ain't moving."
- ... how much did we move the pocket? Less by design in this game than any in the past 4 weeks... but IIRC when we did, Baker was effective.
- ... where was Njoku? Can't recall a pass in his direction. I do remember seeing him turn in a 360 degree circle watching Dupree run around him and getting back into a run stop. David... it's fine to watch him take himself out of a play, but not to let him back into it.
Lastly I want to see any hint of an Offensive gameplan... cause it sure was not obvious upon viewing it live.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I gotta deep dive this one... while we were overmatched we weren't this overmatched.
Specifically I want to see...
- ... if we ran left at all. I can't remember a single time we did. Makes no sense since we had some success right and Hubbard's was by all accounts our worst run-blocker last week.
- ... if we ran out of a 21, 22, or 23 set. Only times I remember seeing Jano were as the singleback flanking Baker in the gun for PassPro. Says we don't have another RB besides Hunt who can PassPro. Every time we showed this set we might as well said, "Pass... and the pocket ain't moving."
- ... how much did we move the pocket? Less by design in this game than any in the past 4 weeks... but IIRC when we did, Baker was effective.
- ... where was Njoku? Can't recall a pass in his direction. I do remember seeing him turn in a 360 degree circle watching Dupree run around him and getting back into a run stop. David... it's fine to watch him take himself out of a play, but not to let him back into it.
Lastly I want to see any hint of an Offensive gameplan... cause it sure was not obvious upon viewing it live.
I gotta deep dive this one... while we were overmatched we weren't this overmatched.
Specifically I want to see...
- ... if we ran left at all. I can't remember a single time we did. Makes no sense since we had some success right and Hubbard's was by all accounts our worst run-blocker last week.
- ... if we ran out of a 21, 22, or 23 set. Only times I remember seeing Jano were as the singleback flanking Baker in the gun for PassPro. Says we don't have another RB besides Hunt who can PassPro. Every time we showed this set we might as well said, "Pass... and the pocket ain't moving."
- ... how much did we move the pocket? Less by design in this game than any in the past 4 weeks... but IIRC when we did, Baker was effective.
- ... where was Njoku? Can't recall a pass in his direction. I do remember seeing him turn in a 360 degree circle watching Dupree run around him and getting back into a run stop. David... it's fine to watch him take himself out of a play, but not to let him back into it.
Lastly I want to see any hint of an Offensive gameplan... cause it sure was not obvious upon viewing it live.
Re: Jano - we ran some offset I looks with him.
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I gotta deep dive this one... while we were overmatched we weren't this overmatched.
Specifically I want to see...
- ... if we ran left at all. I can't remember a single time we did. Makes no sense since we had some success right and Hubbard's was by all accounts our worst run-blocker last week.
- ... if we ran out of a 21, 22, or 23 set. Only times I remember seeing Jano were as the singleback flanking Baker in the gun for PassPro. Says we don't have another RB besides Hunt who can PassPro. Every time we showed this set we might as well said, "Pass... and the pocket ain't moving."
- ... how much did we move the pocket? Less by design in this game than any in the past 4 weeks... but IIRC when we did, Baker was effective.
- ... where was Njoku? Can't recall a pass in his direction. I do remember seeing him turn in a 360 degree circle watching Dupree run around him and getting back into a run stop. David... it's fine to watch him take himself out of a play, but not to let him back into it.
Lastly I want to see any hint of an Offensive gameplan... cause it sure was not obvious upon viewing it live.
Lastly I want to see any hint of an Offensive gameplan... cause it sure was not obvious upon viewing it live.
Sitting here watching SNF and in particular how the 49ers moved the ball against a good LAR Defense... run... PAP... PAP... run... etc...
... and can't help but think, "Why wasn't this us today?"
Even given that the Steeler D is better than the Rams' D... the Niners' rhythm, flow, the way they keep the D off-balance... SMH...
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1-12 on 3rd down
and they kept throwing the same short slants and outs.
Out coached by a hall of fame coach and our coach is a rookie1-12 on 3rd down
and they kept throwing the same short slants and outs.
Out coached by a hall of fame coach and our coach is a rookieBrowns totally dominated at the LOS both sides of the ball went for it 3 times on 4th and 1 and got totally blown up every time.
I guess most here would be more than happy with 4-2 at this point, with a winnable game against the Bengals on tap. Bad loss. Listening to some of the aftermath on the radio I totally agree- this wasn't "just another game" Browns. It was your big chance to make a statement. You made a statement all right- for the Steelers being an elite team, and the Browns not ready for Prime Time.
One final observation. Burn the damn brown pants, besides being ugly. Bad Karma... I'll let a historian look up how many times the Browns have won wearing them- but if it's more than two, I'd be shocked...
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38-6 vs raturds
38-7 vs stoolers
YIKES
One thing is not like the others.
One thing is not like the others.
Your right about that one. The difference is like someone pissing on you, or getting puke on. Both suck!
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Baker was seeing ghosts today. Pitt has the best pressure in the league and we are missing Wyatt Teller badly. Obviously we could’ve used Nick Chubb in this matchup. Whole offense has looked shook, and OBJ steps up huge with a speech. Leadership.
Baker was seeing ghosts today. Pitt has the best pressure in the league and we are missing Wyatt Teller badly. Obviously we could’ve used Nick Chubb in this matchup. Whole offense has looked shook, and OBJ steps up huge with a speech. Leadership.
Another observation. Some quick math for a stat I saw during the game. At one point Baker had dropped back to pass 22 times. He had a clean pocket exactly 3 of those times. He was either hurried, knocked down, or sacked the other 19 times....
The O-line was a total fail today... In every respect. Getting blown up multiple times on 4th and one for negative yardage? Disgusting..
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Your right about that one. The difference is like someone pissing on you, or getting puke on. Both suck!
I just saw a variation of this joke earlier today.
What's the difference between a chick pea and a garbanzo bean?
You wouldn't let a garbanzo bean on your face.
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Baker was seeing ghosts today. Pitt has the best pressure in the league and we are missing Wyatt Teller badly. Obviously we could’ve used Nick Chubb in this matchup. Whole offense has looked shook, and OBJ steps up huge with a speech. Leadership.
Another observation. Some quick math for a stat I saw during the game. At one point Baker had dropped back to pass 22 times. He had a clean pocket exactly 3 of those times. He was either hurried, knocked down, or sacked the other 19 times....
The O-line was a total fail today... In every respect. Getting blown up multiple times on 4th and one for negative yardage? Disgusting..
Another observation. Some quick math for a stat I saw during the game. At one point Baker had dropped back to pass 22 times. He had a clean pocket exactly 3 of those times. He was either hurried, knocked down, or sacked the other 19 times....
The O-line was a total fail today... In every respect. Getting blown up multiple times on 4th and one for negative yardage? Disgusting..
Exactly true. Also, our HC admitted they got outcoached that first game, it's the first year of this offense, with no preseason, etc.
If they win the next four games, they will be 8-2? I'm good with that.
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Baker was seeing ghosts today. Pitt has the best pressure in the league and we are missing Wyatt Teller badly. Obviously we could’ve used Nick Chubb in this matchup. Whole offense has looked shook, and OBJ steps up huge with a speech. Leadership.
Another observation. Some quick math for a stat I saw during the game. At one point Baker had dropped back to pass 22 times. He had a clean pocket exactly 3 of those times. He was either hurried, knocked down, or sacked the other 19 times....
The O-line was a total fail today... In every respect. Getting blown up multiple times on 4th and one for negative yardage? Disgusting..
Another observation. Some quick math for a stat I saw during the game. At one point Baker had dropped back to pass 22 times. He had a clean pocket exactly 3 of those times. He was either hurried, knocked down, or sacked the other 19 times....
The O-line was a total fail today... In every respect. Getting blown up multiple times on 4th and one for negative yardage? Disgusting..
the oline got the shit kicked out of them.....i know what i saw...alot of browns ol heads getting smapped back because the steelers dline is to strong....way too strong for our oline...they got creamed
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WTF
you just saw why the steelers win sb's.....ol and dl dominance......the browns took a fucking beating today.......and don't anyone give me this shit about our injuries...chubb would have got is clock cleaned the way those stoolers were hitting....hope there are enough hot tubs at the facility.....whoooooo...what a fucking beating.....
you just saw why the steelers win sb's.....ol and dl dominance......the browns took a fucking beating today.......and don't anyone give me this shit about our injuries...chubb would have got is clock cleaned the way those stoolers were hitting....hope there are enough hot tubs at the facility.....whoooooo...what a fucking beating.....
That's the bottom line. Nothing more needs said.
As mentioned on a post game show, Chubb would have had no place to run.
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1-12 on 3rd down
and they kept throwing the same short slants and outs.
Out coached by a hall of fame coach and our coach is a rookieBrowns totally dominated at the LOS both sides of the ball went for it 3 times on 4th and 1 and got totally blown up every time.
I guess most here would be more than happy with 4-2 at this point, with a winnable game against the Bengals on tap. Bad loss. Listening to some of the aftermath on the radio I totally agree- this wasn't "just another game" Browns. It was your big chance to make a statement. You made a statement all right- for the Steelers being an elite team, and the Browns not ready for Prime Time.
One final observation. Burn the damn brown pants, besides being ugly. Bad Karma... I'll let a historian look up how many times the Browns have won wearing them- but if it's more than two, I'd be shocked...
Browns totally dominated at the LOS both sides of the ball went for it 3 times on 4th and 1 and got totally blown up every time.
I guess most here would be more than happy with 4-2 at this point, with a winnable game against the Bengals on tap. Bad loss. Listening to some of the aftermath on the radio I totally agree- this wasn't "just another game" Browns. It was your big chance to make a statement. You made a statement all right- for the Steelers being an elite team, and the Browns not ready for Prime Time.
One final observation. Burn the damn brown pants, besides being ugly. Bad Karma... I'll let a historian look up how many times the Browns have won wearing them- but if it's more than two, I'd be shocked...
You are correct. They are not ready to beat an elite team.
They must beat the bad to mediocre teams to have a chance at a winning record -
Baker was seeing ghosts today. Pitt has the best pressure in the league and we are missing Wyatt Teller badly. Obviously we could’ve used Nick Chubb in this matchup. Whole offense has looked shook, and OBJ steps up huge with a speech. Leadership.
Baker was seeing ghosts today. Pitt has the best pressure in the league and we are missing Wyatt Teller badly. Obviously we could’ve used Nick Chubb in this matchup. Whole offense has looked shook, and OBJ steps up huge with a speech. Leadership.
Was good to see OBJ do that...
Problem was did you see Baker? He walked up late as if to see what was going on... stayed on the perimeter even leaning to look around other players.
It should should have been him leading this pep session... and two years ago it would have been. We know this because it was him...
This only amplifies my concerns over the lack of fire in his belly... where the chip on his shoulder went...
... the things that made him Baker "I'm gonna plant this flag on your 50" Mayfield.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
you just saw why the steelers win sb's.....ol and dl dominance......the browns took a fucking beating today.......and don't anyone give me this shit about our injuries...chubb would have got is clock cleaned the way those stoolers were hitting....hope there are enough hot tubs at the facility.....whoooooo...what a fucking beating.....
That's the bottom line. Nothing more needs said.
As mentioned on a post game show, Chubb would have had no place to run.
As mentioned on a post game show, Chubb would have had no place to run.
Perhaps, even likely, not... at least early, but...
... with Chubb we have a hammer that is otherwise missing.
I have no doubt Stef would have kept on swingin' that hammer for at least a full 3/4's of the game.
How much difference would it have made? Certainly not so much as to change an "L" into a "W".... but it could well have made the game watchable.
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you just saw why the steelers win sb's.....ol and dl dominance......the browns took a fucking beating today.......and don't anyone give me this shit about our injuries...chubb would have got is clock cleaned the way those stoolers were hitting....hope there are enough hot tubs at the facility.....whoooooo...what a fucking beating.....
That's the bottom line. Nothing more needs said.
As mentioned on a post game show, Chubb would have had no place to run.
That's the bottom line. Nothing more needs said.
As mentioned on a post game show, Chubb would have had no place to run.
i wonder why baker says he is feeling dangerous only when he is playing the bengals.....guess yesterday he woke up saying he felt in danger instead of dangerous but did not tell us.......look, until we get more physical against teams like pitt and balt....we are going to get our asses kicked and go absolutely nowhere....forget about all these friggen so called playmakers we have....it ain't going to work....end of story....
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