DPJ
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So JoJo Natson is just under 5'7" and ran a 4.46, both according to his pro day.
DPJ is 6'2" and ran a 4.48 (combine numbers).
He's never really going to look as fast or as "sudden" as the small guys.
Cribbs was 6'1" and was faster than he looked. He also had the size (a few pounds on DPJ) so that when he got up to speed he could break arm tackles. I'm not saying DPJ is Cribbs I'm just giving a comparison.
My money is that DPJ isn't physically slow, he's just processing slowly / overthinking. Remember, no preseason. Less training camp. Etc. He basically just finished a preseason's worth of returns.
Physically he's there he just has to learn how to turn that into results (trusting blocking, etc) on an NFL field. (We could block better too)
Woody, I don't care where he went to college. Great game winning catch...
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So JoJo Natson is just under 5'7" and ran a 4.46, both according to his pro day.
DPJ is 6'2" and ran a 4.48 (combine numbers).
He's never really going to look as fast or as "sudden" as the small guys.
Cribbs was 6'1" and was faster than he looked. He also had the size (a few pounds on DPJ) so that when he got up to speed he could break arm tackles. I'm not saying DPJ is Cribbs I'm just giving a comparison.
My money is that DPJ isn't physically slow, he's just processing slowly / overthinking. Remember, no preseason. Less training camp. Etc. He basically just finished a preseason's worth of returns.
Physically he's there he just has to learn how to turn that into results (trusting blocking, etc) on an NFL field. (We could block better too)
So JoJo Natson is just under 5'7" and ran a 4.46, both according to his pro day.
DPJ is 6'2" and ran a 4.48 (combine numbers).
He's never really going to look as fast or as "sudden" as the small guys.
Cribbs was 6'1" and was faster than he looked. He also had the size (a few pounds on DPJ) so that when he got up to speed he could break arm tackles. I'm not saying DPJ is Cribbs I'm just giving a comparison.
My money is that DPJ isn't physically slow, he's just processing slowly / overthinking. Remember, no preseason. Less training camp. Etc. He basically just finished a preseason's worth of returns.
Physically he's there he just has to learn how to turn that into results (trusting blocking, etc) on an NFL field. (We could block better too)
He made some key catches down the stretch, so that's great.
But seriously, he is not good at returning kicks. Whether he's physically slow or mentally slow it literally looks like he's carrying a piano when he returns kickoffs. Like if the entire kick coverage team spontaneously died as DJP caught the kickoff, he MIGHT be able to run it back for a touchdown. ?
But he went to TSUN, so I get it, you are all tingly in your nether region tonight. Let's let Woody enjoy it. ?
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jus cuz the video wasn't in here yet
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Yup... it's called being a "developmental player"... pretty common with Day 3 draft picks. Which starter was he going displace?
Now he has the opportunity... good start on making something of it today, but more to be done.
We were talking about Higgins, not DJP.
How he went from being important to Baker during his #6's rookie season, but then finding himself buried on the bench the next season and most of this one.
We were talking about Higgins, not DJP.
How he went from being important to Baker during his #6's rookie season, but then finding himself buried on the bench the next season and most of this one.
OK....
That's it...
Pronouns are now banned...
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jus cuz the video wasn't in here yet
Anybody else think right after the catch..... 11 seconds is to much time for the Bengals against our defense.... hahaha
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Zombo said:
We have two guys on the practice squad, JaMarcus Bradley, 6', 198, rookie LA Lafayette, and Ryan Switzer, 5'9, 183, 4th year out of UNC.
Anybody know anything about this guys?
There is no picture of Ryan Switzer on the Browns roster, but without googling, I feel pretty safe saying "gritty" white possession receiver.
Zombo
https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/browns-sign-wr-ryan-switzer-to-practice-squad
Switzer is a bit of a journeyman type guy. Been with Dallas, Raiders and Steelers before. 50 career receptions and a fair shake of kick and punt returns.
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Zombo said:
We have two guys on the practice squad, JaMarcus Bradley, 6', 198, rookie LA Lafayette, and Ryan Switzer, 5'9, 183, 4th year out of UNC.
Anybody know anything about this guys?
There is no picture of Ryan Switzer on the Browns roster, but without googling, I feel pretty safe saying "gritty" white possession receiver.
Zombo
https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/browns-sign-wr-ryan-switzer-to-practice-squad
Switzer is a bit of a journeyman type guy. Been with Dallas, Raiders and Steelers before. 50 career receptions and a fair shake of kick and punt returns.
https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/browns-sign-wr-ryan-switzer-to-practice-squad
Switzer is a bit of a journeyman type guy. Been with Dallas, Raiders and Steelers before. 50 career receptions and a fair shake of kick and punt returns.
Always cast in that Welker/Edelman/ role, but doesn't quite have "the stuff", i.e., quicks and strength combo, to get to that level. But the rosters he has been crowded off of tend to have pretty deep WR rooms... deeper than ours anyway.
Zombo said:
Tawan Taylor becomes #4.
We have two guys on the practice squad, JaMarcus Bradley, 6', 198, rookie LA Lafayette, and Ryan Switzer, 5'9, 183, 4th year out of UNC.
Anybody know anything about this guys?
Taywan Taylor is the fools' gold I see in ours. Guy has been forever viewed as having the promise of bringing that Tyrek Hill kind of impact to a roster... and has failed to deliver at a Switzer level.
Bradley? Decent size (6' 0-3/8", 198#) and speed (4.5-ish) with big hands (10-3/8") and disproportionately long arms (77-1/4" wingspan). Doesn't look especially quick or strong... major competition level questions...
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So.... Peeps' season is done?
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I've seen the name Adam Thielen, WR from the Vikings a few times in connection with the Browns.
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I've seen the name Adam Thielen, WR from the Vikings a few times in connection with the Browns.
I've seen the name Adam Thielen, WR from the Vikings a few times in connection with the Browns.
I like him a lot, mostly because I think he can give us a bigger frame in the WR corps, but I think he will and actually can ask for big money.
Trading OBJ away and getting Thielen? We would still keep a mighty WR group with a more friendly cap approach, but I even would be OK with Landry, Higgins and other reliables WR2/WR3 (Hodges and DPJ aren't there yet, for me) to use the cap somewhere else; I've heard our D has some glaring holes.
Idk how are the Vikes doing with cap, but Justin Jefferson is doing well so they might think about getting some relief because they're tied to the not-so-great-but-man-does-he-have-a-contract Cousins.
On the other side, I don't know if I would consider going from Cousins to Mayfield...
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I was just looking at the predraft rankings and was wondering where DPJ was located, well.......
WR89 D. Peoples-Jones CLE bye 9. So he was the WR #89, hmmmmm. With the season about half done it's interesting to take a look back to FL Draft Day.
Oh and other notables: WR (Wide Receiver) # Name Bye. The hits and misses.....and IRs.
WR1 D. Adams GB 5
WR2 D. Hopkins ARI 8
WR3 C. Ridley ATL 10
WR4 T. Hill KC 10
WR5 Q ... J. Jones ATL 10
WR6 D. Metcalf SEA 6
WR7 A. Thielen MIN 7
WR8 A. Brown TEN
WR9 T. Lockett SEA 6
WR10 K. Golladay DET 5
WR11 Q M. Thomas NO 6
WR12 S. Diggs BUF 11
WR13 T. McLaurin WAS 8
WR14 Q. A. Robinson CHI 11
WR15 A. Cooper DAL 10
WR16 W. Fuller HOU 8
And I had trouble finding this one:
WR110 IR. O. Beckham CLE 9.... #110 but originally #1 on the IR list.
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Huh?
Just sayin' Hodge kept Higgins on the bench so what are the odds Peeps gets snaps now?
Zombo said:
Double huh?
Just sayin' Hodge kept Higgins on the bench so what are the odds Peeps gets snaps now?
Just sayin' Hodge kept Higgins on the bench so what are the odds Peeps gets snaps now?
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Zombo said:
I doubt we run 4 wr sets, but the guys that started out #4 and inactive played 85% and 69% of snaps last week and caught 9 out of 9 targets for 166 yards and a TD, helping our QB to a near perfect qb rating after his initial int ... so I don't think either of them are going to disappear because the great KhaDarel Hodge and his 3 catches in three games returns.
Hodge is a good blocker and set picker, Peoples is more of a potential play maker, they will both see snaps.
The implied, but unstated, name in your reply is Higgins. If my math is correct, then he supplied the other 6 catches that Peeps did not... and actually it was 6 of 8 from Baker. Plus IIRC for about 55 minutes of the game Higgins and Peeps were the #2 and 3 WRs respectively.
My point is that Higgins has earned the #3 role behind Hodge and will push him for the #2. Peeps will be the #4.
As for Hodge's low, 3-game, catch total... really just proves my other point that in our multi-TE-centric Offense the #3 (let alone the #4) WR sees little PT.
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Told ya Higgie would push for the #2...
Peeps size and speed... although not fast by NFL standards it would seem he is our fastest active WR (Taylor is, or was at one time, faster), so, yes, he may get shots. I just hope he doesn't become Benji predictable... in no small part because he does not have Benji speed.
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Being the #4 WR doesn't mean you only play when there are 4 WRs on the field...
Plus, DPJ is the most raw with the most potential. Hodge and Higgins are more likely to be at their cap. That share of snaps and targets could shift over the season..
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