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  • BrownsKidd BrownsKiddB Very Popular Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd wrote on last edited by
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    Wife and I were talking about the polls this morning and how they have not been accurate at all.  
    IMO, they are used in the media to sway the mindless voters to the media's preferred candidate.  

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      Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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      The polls are as accurate as my Horoscope.

      Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        A bunch of opinion pieces vs the entire careers of polling experts and data scientists. 

        538 had a great article on the 2016 polling that I've already posted on here. It breaks it down nicely. 

        Showing Biden with a 5/6 chance of winning doesn't mean his most likely win is a "landslide". 

        But sure, appreciate the call out, "leftists", etc. 

        I'm really not interested into a whole bunch of back and forth where I share articles going into polling error, bringing up the votes the still need counted, etc. Sorry, I'm just not. You can claim a victory if you'd like and the usual MAGA minions can all come in to try and pile on. 

        Polls aren't perfect. Trump is a unique candidate. There is still a whole field if statistics, science, etc behind this that never really gets examined because it isn't easily digestible (not necessarily to you, just the country at large). 

        So, again, instead of propping up click bait opinion articles calling polls meaningless, I'll choose to wait on the final results and to realize what the predictions meant and the standard error involved. 

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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          538? Nate Silver, huh? How are his predictions faring? Not too accurate, it seems. Not sure what it's going to take for you to see the truth on this one but if you can't admit the polling industry is completely worthless; that is without worth - Nothing will make you see. 

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            tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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            Was expected more Polish jokes based on the thread title.

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              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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              Yes woodpecker Biden voters, supporters and sycophants are lefties.

              They were wrong about Hillary and they're wrong about Biden even if Trump loses.

              Furthermore watching the results on either of the main opinion Networks will lead to either a full sense of dread or security.

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                Yes woodpecker Biden voters, supporters and sycophants are lefties.

                They were wrong about Hillary and they're wrong about Biden even if Trump loses.

                Furthermore watching the results on either of the main opinion Networks will lead to either a full sense of dread or security.

                WSS

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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                @westside-steve said:

                Yes woodpecker Biden voters, supporters and sycophants are lefties.

                They were wrong about Hillary and they're wrong about Biden even if Trump loses.

                Furthermore watching the results on either of the main opinion Networks will lead to either a full sense of dread or security.

                WSS

                Yes I couldn't imagine watching CNN or Fox's coverage. 

                I've been watching the 538 live updates and when I was watching an actual broadcast it was NBC. 

                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                  A bunch of opinion pieces vs the entire careers of polling experts and data scientists. 

                  538 had a great article on the 2016 polling that I've already posted on here. It breaks it down nicely. 

                  Showing Biden with a 5/6 chance of winning doesn't mean his most likely win is a "landslide". 

                  But sure, appreciate the call out, "leftists", etc. 

                  I'm really not interested into a whole bunch of back and forth where I share articles going into polling error, bringing up the votes the still need counted, etc. Sorry, I'm just not. You can claim a victory if you'd like and the usual MAGA minions can all come in to try and pile on. 

                  Polls aren't perfect. Trump is a unique candidate. There is still a whole field if statistics, science, etc behind this that never really gets examined because it isn't easily digestible (not necessarily to you, just the country at large). 

                  So, again, instead of propping up click bait opinion articles calling polls meaningless, I'll choose to wait on the final results and to realize what the predictions meant and the standard error involved. 

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                  D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                  @mld-woody said:

                  A bunch of opinion pieces vs the entire careers of polling experts and data scientists. 

                  538 had a great article on the 2016 polling that I've already posted on here. It breaks it down nicely. 

                  Showing Biden with a 5/6 chance of winning doesn't mean his most likely win is a "landslide". 

                  But sure, appreciate the call out, "leftists", etc. 

                  I'm really not interested into a whole bunch of back and forth where I share articles going into polling error, bringing up the votes the still need counted, etc. Sorry, I'm just not. You can claim a victory if you'd like and the usual MAGA minions can all come in to try and pile on. 

                  Polls aren't perfect. Trump is a unique candidate. There is still a whole field if statistics, science, etc behind this that never really gets examined because it isn't easily digestible (not necessarily to you, just the country at large). 

                  So, again, instead of propping up click bait opinion articles calling polls meaningless, I'll choose to wait on the final results and to realize what the predictions meant and the standard error involved. 

                  There, that's better. Carry on... 

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                    @mld-woody said:

                    A bunch of opinion pieces vs the entire careers of polling experts and data scientists. 

                    538 had a great article on the 2016 polling that I've already posted on here. It breaks it down nicely. 

                    Showing Biden with a 5/6 chance of winning doesn't mean his most likely win is a "landslide". 

                    But sure, appreciate the call out, "leftists", etc. 

                    I'm really not interested into a whole bunch of back and forth where I share articles going into polling error, bringing up the votes the still need counted, etc. Sorry, I'm just not. You can claim a victory if you'd like and the usual MAGA minions can all come in to try and pile on. 

                    Polls aren't perfect. Trump is a unique candidate. There is still a whole field if statistics, science, etc behind this that never really gets examined because it isn't easily digestible (not necessarily to you, just the country at large). 

                    So, again, instead of propping up click bait opinion articles calling polls meaningless, I'll choose to wait on the final results and to realize what the predictions meant and the standard error involved. 

                    There, that's better. Carry on... 

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                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                    @d-bone said:

                    There, that's better. Carry on... 

                    Oh geez...

                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                      VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
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                      Frank Luntz: It's 'unforgiveable' polls underestimated Trump’s support
                      WHAT THEY GOT WRONG -- AGAIN

                      Frank Luntz: It's 'unforgiveable' polls underestimated Trump’s support

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                        Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                        It’s their left leaning bias showing again.

                        Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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                          N Neo wrote on last edited by
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                          But, "votes cannot be cast after the Poles are closed"

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                            Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                            Looks like Joe is going to win Wisconsin by 20k votes.

                            The ABC poll had Biden winning Wisconsin by 17 points.

                            Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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                              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                              That means Trump MUST win PA, NC, GA and either MI or NV.  Not looking good.  Get ready for socialism.

                              "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                That means Trump MUST win PA, NC, GA and either MI or NV.  Not looking good.  Get ready for socialism.

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                                tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                Get ready for socialism.

                                Oh shit, so where public monies go to public universities for medical research and then ends up privately profited off of...?!?

                                Oh.... Wait. 

                                Look, I get it.  But go talk to the hardcore socialist countries - Biden is anything but.

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                                  DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                  Biden won't be President for long.  He's sickly.  Harris will end up being President. 

                                  "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                                    I'll set the over/under at 45 days after inauguration that Kamala tells a reporter, "Trump screwed up COVID so badly that there is little she can now do to reverse it, and everything that is currently happening or will happen is because of him".

                                    I'll set the over/under to 90 minutes when D Bone quotes this post after she says it (take the under) 

                                    I'll set the over/under at 90 minutes before her followers make post after post about how she is right and it's all Trump and his supporters' faults (take the under) 

                                    I'll set the over/under to 10 minutes before D Bone hops on his bike and could no longer care less (take the under) 

                                    One thing is for certain, the next 4 years are going to be fun no matter which POS politician is leading this country. 

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                                      I'll set the over/under at 45 days after inauguration that Kamala tells a reporter, "Trump screwed up COVID so badly that there is little she can now do to reverse it, and everything that is currently happening or will happen is because of him".

                                      I'll set the over/under to 90 minutes when D Bone quotes this post after she says it (take the under) 

                                      I'll set the over/under at 90 minutes before her followers make post after post about how she is right and it's all Trump and his supporters' faults (take the under) 

                                      I'll set the over/under to 10 minutes before D Bone hops on his bike and could no longer care less (take the under) 

                                      One thing is for certain, the next 4 years are going to be fun no matter which POS politician is leading this country. 

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                                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                      @d-bone said:

                                      I'll set the over/under to 10 minutes before D Bone hops on his bike and could no longer care less (take the under) 

                                      I've been averaging around 35 miles a day and feel great.  

                                      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                        @d-bone said:

                                        I'll set the over/under to 10 minutes before D Bone hops on his bike and could no longer care less (take the under) 

                                        I've been averaging around 35 miles a day and feel great.  

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                                        D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                                        @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                        I've been averaging around 35 miles a day and feel great.  

                                        Hell yea! Super stoked to hear that brother..... keep it up! 

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                                          jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                                          2020 Election "pollsters":

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