The Herd: OBJ, Baker just didn't jive
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They've been trying to trade him but no one was offering what Mr. Jimmy wanted: a 1st round pick. But by next year, it's possible they will be so tired of him, they just pull and Jets like they did with Bell. Colin never did say that Baker and OBJ hated each other; they just aren't sympatico. I think it could be an alpha dog struggle - probably have players being boys with one guy or the other, not both. And the LV game didn't tell us much, as it was pretty near impossible to pass that day.
Can’t you tell that no one gives a fuck about this thread and that we’re doing everything we can do to hijack it so piss off with whatever it is you have to say about this thread subject and go to talking about your breakfast cereal. Because talking about pink poop is more interesting.
Can’t you tell that no one gives a fuck about this thread and that we’re doing everything we can do to hijack it so piss off with whatever it is you have to say about this thread subject and go to talking about your breakfast cereal. Because talking about pink poop is more interesting.
Yea, and that's YOUR opinion. I'm not interested in your pink poop. I'm right, you're wrong. LIve with it.
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I could show you just as many takes where Colin has ben dead on. What will that prove?
Howdy-ho... Mr. Cube, You smell like flowers...
Take it from Mr. Hankey...
If you throw enough DingleBerries (trademark pending) at a wall... some of them are bound to stick.
And your Mr. Herd is one prolific, tireless DingleBerry thrower...
Howdy-ho... Mr. Cube, You smell like flowers...
Take it from Mr. Hankey...
If you throw enough DingleBerries (trademark pending) at a wall... some of them are bound to stick.
And your Mr. Herd is one prolific, tireless DingleBerry thrower...
I'm sorry if Colin has been on the $ on the Browns, the butt hurt is strong with this one.
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Someone is hiding behind their keyboard and talking tough anonymously again. ?
ICECHICKEN! HE USED TO BE ABLE TO BENCH 400 POUNDS!
Does that frighten the Internet tough guy?
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Someone is hiding behind their keyboard and talking tough anonymously again. ?
ICECHICKEN! HE USED TO BE ABLE TO BENCH 400 POUNDS!
Does that frighten the Internet tough guy?
Does that frighten the Internet tough guy?
You realize you are making fun of yourself, right? Mr. "I used to bench 400 pounds" Icechicken? ?
Is there any doubt from reading Icechicken's nonsense on here that there is a bevy of restraining orders against this lunatic? If he is this obsessed over OBJ, can you imagine the shenanigans he's pulled on people in his real life?
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When it was first released, Franken Berry cereal was causing people to have pink poop.
When it was first released, Franken Berry cereal was causing people to have pink poop.
yep... we needed a bye week...?
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Can’t you tell that no one gives a fuck about this thread and that we’re doing everything we can do to hijack it so piss off with whatever it is you have to say about this thread subject and go to talking about your breakfast cereal. Because talking about pink poop is more interesting.
Yea, and that's YOUR opinion. I'm not interested in your pink poop. I'm right, you're wrong. LIve with it.
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It tells you a lot when I find it more interesting pink poop than the "subject" (AKA beating the dead horse of a train of thought... As in a derailing train amidst a nuclear war) of a thread.
Also cereals have been a source for the gas of the cars, but lately the prices are going so damn high (don't know in the US) that everyone is switching to conventional petrol based gas. Us included, we owned like 3 straight diesel cars at home and now back to petrol. Thoughts?
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It tells you a lot when I find it more interesting pink poop than the "subject" (AKA beating the dead horse of a train of thought... As in a derailing train amidst a nuclear war) of a thread.
Also cereals have been a source for the gas of the cars, but lately the prices are going so damn high (don't know in the US) that everyone is switching to conventional petrol based gas. Us included, we owned like 3 straight diesel cars at home and now back to petrol. Thoughts?
It tells you a lot when I find it more interesting pink poop than the "subject" (AKA beating the dead horse of a train of thought... As in a derailing train amidst a nuclear war) of a thread.
Also cereals have been a source for the gas of the cars, but lately the prices are going so damn high (don't know in the US) that everyone is switching to conventional petrol based gas. Us included, we owned like 3 straight diesel cars at home and now back to petrol. Thoughts?
Thoughts? Saying "petrol based gas" is redundant, isn't it?
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Howdy-ho... Mr. Cube, You smell like flowers...
Take it from Mr. Hankey...
If you throw enough DingleBerries (trademark pending) at a wall... some of them are bound to stick.
And your Mr. Herd is one prolific, tireless DingleBerry thrower...
I'm sorry if Colin has been on the $ on the Browns, the butt hurt is strong with this one.
I'm sorry if Colin has been on the $ on the Browns, the butt hurt is strong with this one.
Puh-leeze...
I don't give Cowherd a thought. He's just one in a crowdherd of sports shockjocks who compete to see who can be the most sensational.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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I like Grape Nuts. They don’t taste like grapes though.
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You can’t take Colin seriously. I don’t like talking about him.
He has “hater” written all over.
back to the topic: OBJ will be missed if he goes. A restructured deal would be a nice way to keep him around.
He had been one of the biggest haters of the Steelers coming into the season, saying they were overrated and was on the record saying the Browns were a playoff team this season. He has since had to admit he was wrong about Pitt. He has been a Baker doubter most of the time, and says Baker isn't terrible, but he's not athletic enough to carry a team and needs everything just right to win, which he says he has this season.
His sources tell him OBJ and Baker just don't dovetail, and it's not a knock on either of them, but they just haven't made a good combination. Baker has been pressured to make OBJ workout and feels forced into it, which is why the offense doesn't flow as well as it should.
His sources tell him OBJ and Baker just don't dovetail, and it's not a knock on either of them, but they just haven't made a good combination. Baker has been pressured to make OBJ workout and feels forced into it, which is why the offense doesn't flow as well as it should.
I get what common sense says especially since Baker broke the Browns record after OBJ went out. Let’s not forget that OBJ played a huge role in beating Dallas and IND.
I do feel as if Baker was too inexperienced to receive such a polarizing weapon. However, I also think that having OBJ has boosted Mayfield’s development.
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I am wrong to think that you had perhaps even the mental acuity of an amoeba. You don't.
And I repeat, NO ONE has any interest in another of your hate rants.
Listen, you're from Akron, not the most sophisticated place in the world. But confusing accuracy for hatred is still not acceptable. I know, I know, from your perspective, the world is dark, dirty, gray and hate-filled. But your perspective is not the fault of others. So, you're fit for a straight jacket because I was right, that's YOUR problem. And get your meds adjusted. Something is way off.
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His sources tell him OBJ and Baker just don't dovetail, and it's not a knock on either of them, but they just haven't made a good combination. Baker has been pressured to make OBJ workout and feels forced into it, which is why the offense doesn't flow as well as it should.
I get what common sense says especially since Baker broke the Browns record after OBJ went out. Let’s not forget that OBJ played a huge role in beating Dallas and IND.
I do feel as if Baker was too inexperienced to receive such a polarizing weapon. However, I also think that having OBJ has boosted Mayfield’s development.
I get what common sense says especially since Baker broke the Browns record after OBJ went out. Let’s not forget that OBJ played a huge role in beating Dallas and IND.
I do feel as if Baker was too inexperienced to receive such a polarizing weapon. However, I also think that having OBJ has boosted Mayfield’s development.
I'm not sure OBJ has "boosted Baker's development." I feel Baker was pressured into finding OBJ on a lot of plays where OBJ was not the open WR. To me, that would hinder BM's development. But when the bossman spent all that $ and draft capitol on a player, he is not going to be pleased when that player doesn't work out. So, I am pretty sure there were meetings where Mr. Jimmy told Freddie and Stef (separately, obviously) - in no uncertain terms - "Get the ball to OBJ." But, it just wasn't meant to be.
Again, I'm not even blaming OBJ as it lies. He's a very talented player, but it just didn't connect. They were not sympatico. And Colin stated many times no one was really to blame (I would lean towards blaming Mr. Jimmy for making a bad decision to begin with). How would things be different, if, for example, instead of trading for OBJ, they kept those draft picks and ended up grabbing a, I don't know, an A.J. Brown, D.K. Metcalf or Chase Claypool? What would that team look like? How much better would the chemistry be?
I know some of the old timers are dispersing spittle over even the thought of OBJ not working out. Hey, the world isn't perfect. Look at the clusterF--k elections.
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Fun and Interesting Facts about Cereals
History of breakfast cereals, as we know them today, is relatively short (circa 150 years) but there are still some interesting facts that could be told about them.
- The cereal industry in the United States uses over 400 million kilograms of sugar per year.
- Kellogg's Corn Flakes were eaten by astronauts aboard Apollo 11 which made the first landing on the Moon. The cereal was mixed with fruit and pressed into cubes to make them easier to eat in the conditions of zero gravity.
- Term “cereals” comes from Ceres, ancient Roman goddess of agriculture.
- Kellogg's breakfast cereals “Honey Smacks” and “Golden Crisp” have more than 50% sugar.
- 50% of Americans eat cereals for breakfast every day.
- The first cereal was so-called “Granula”. It had to be soaked in water whole night before it could be prepared for eating.
- Advertisement of cereals started targeting children after the Second World War.
- Americans eat 50 kg of cereal per person every year or 160 bowls.
- Today's breakfast cereals that are healthier are more often targeted at adults.
- The most popular items sold in grocery stores are milk and carbonated beverages. After them come breakfast cereals.
- The first mass-marketed commercial item to offer a prize was Corn Flakes.
- One of the predecessors of breakfast cereal was popcorn which American colonists used to eat with cream and sugar.
- Puffed cereal is made in pressure cookers. The first pressure cooker for this purpose was made from a converted cannon that was used in the Spanish-American war.
- Breakfast cereals were invented in 19th century as an answer to a very unhealthy eating habits of the people of that time and as bland food that will calm the passions according to the Seventh-day Adventists which invented it.
- Cheerios were first called “Cheerioats” but Quaker Oates complained so the name was changed in 1945.
- Quaker Oats gave an interesting prize in their cereals in the 1950s. As an advertisement for their cereals and a CBS’s TV show “Sergeant Preston of the Yukon” they gave a deed of land for one square inch of Yukon land for every box top from their cereal.
- John Draper (AKA Captain Crunch, named after Cap'n Crunch breakfast cereal mascot) used plastic whistle that was a prize in Cap'n Crunch breakfast cereal to make free phone calls in the 1970s.
- Cereals are a rich source of fiber.
- Kellogg's, General Mills, Post, and Quaker Oats are the four greatest manufacturers of breakfast cereals.
- Fruit_Brute_Cereal "Fruit Brute” was a brand of cereals sold in 1970s by General Mills and later discontinued. Filmmaker Quentin Tarantino has some of the boxes of original “Fruit Brute” and he uses them in his films as a director's trademark.
- The first company to have an advertisement on the Times Square billboard in New York was Kellogg's.
- Battle Creek, Michigan is considered the "Cereal Capital of the World" because it is the hometown of Kellogg and Post, two of the four largest cereal manufacturers in the world.
- The full name of “Cap'n Crunch” mascot is Horatio Magellan Crunch. His place of birth is Crunch Island in the Sea of Milk.
- Over 2.7 billion packages of cereal are sold every year.
- The first “monster cereal” produced by General Mills in the 1970s was “Count Chocula”. It is still produced today but it is sold only around Halloween.
- One bushel of wheat (36 liters) can produce 53 boxes of breakfast cereals.
- United States are only 4th in world-wide cereal consumption. Before them are Ireland, England and Australia.
Fun and Interesting Facts about Cereals
History of breakfast cereals, as we know them today, is relatively short (circa 150 years) but there are still some interesting facts that could be told about them.
- The cereal industry in the United States uses over 400 million kilograms of sugar per year.
- Kellogg's Corn Flakes were eaten by astronauts aboard Apollo 11 which made the first landing on the Moon. The cereal was mixed with fruit and pressed into cubes to make them easier to eat in the conditions of zero gravity.
- Term “cereals” comes from Ceres, ancient Roman goddess of agriculture.
- Kellogg's breakfast cereals “Honey Smacks” and “Golden Crisp” have more than 50% sugar.
- 50% of Americans eat cereals for breakfast every day.
- The first cereal was so-called “Granula”. It had to be soaked in water whole night before it could be prepared for eating.
- Advertisement of cereals started targeting children after the Second World War.
- Americans eat 50 kg of cereal per person every year or 160 bowls.
- Today's breakfast cereals that are healthier are more often targeted at adults.
- The most popular items sold in grocery stores are milk and carbonated beverages. After them come breakfast cereals.
- The first mass-marketed commercial item to offer a prize was Corn Flakes.
- One of the predecessors of breakfast cereal was popcorn which American colonists used to eat with cream and sugar.
- Puffed cereal is made in pressure cookers. The first pressure cooker for this purpose was made from a converted cannon that was used in the Spanish-American war.
- Breakfast cereals were invented in 19th century as an answer to a very unhealthy eating habits of the people of that time and as bland food that will calm the passions according to the Seventh-day Adventists which invented it.
- Cheerios were first called “Cheerioats” but Quaker Oates complained so the name was changed in 1945.
- Quaker Oats gave an interesting prize in their cereals in the 1950s. As an advertisement for their cereals and a CBS’s TV show “Sergeant Preston of the Yukon” they gave a deed of land for one square inch of Yukon land for every box top from their cereal.
- John Draper (AKA Captain Crunch, named after Cap'n Crunch breakfast cereal mascot) used plastic whistle that was a prize in Cap'n Crunch breakfast cereal to make free phone calls in the 1970s.
- Cereals are a rich source of fiber.
- Kellogg's, General Mills, Post, and Quaker Oats are the four greatest manufacturers of breakfast cereals.
- Fruit_Brute_Cereal "Fruit Brute” was a brand of cereals sold in 1970s by General Mills and later discontinued. Filmmaker Quentin Tarantino has some of the boxes of original “Fruit Brute” and he uses them in his films as a director's trademark.
- The first company to have an advertisement on the Times Square billboard in New York was Kellogg's.
- Battle Creek, Michigan is considered the "Cereal Capital of the World" because it is the hometown of Kellogg and Post, two of the four largest cereal manufacturers in the world.
- The full name of “Cap'n Crunch” mascot is Horatio Magellan Crunch. His place of birth is Crunch Island in the Sea of Milk.
- Over 2.7 billion packages of cereal are sold every year.
- The first “monster cereal” produced by General Mills in the 1970s was “Count Chocula”. It is still produced today but it is sold only around Halloween.
- One bushel of wheat (36 liters) can produce 53 boxes of breakfast cereals.
- United States are only 4th in world-wide cereal consumption. Before them are Ireland, England and Australia.
Personally, I don't care about your pink poop, and you might want to give your doc a stool sample and see what's up with that.
OBJ is what happens when the owner thinks he is a football man. Mr. Jimmy is not. According to Colin's inside source, OBJ may have played his last game in a Brown's jersey. Don't kill the messenger.
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I get what common sense says especially since Baker broke the Browns record after OBJ went out. Let’s not forget that OBJ played a huge role in beating Dallas and IND.
I do feel as if Baker was too inexperienced to receive such a polarizing weapon. However, I also think that having OBJ has boosted Mayfield’s development.
I'm not sure OBJ has "boosted Baker's development." I feel Baker was pressured into finding OBJ on a lot of plays where OBJ was not the open WR. To me, that would hinder BM's development. But when the bossman spent all that $ and draft capitol on a player, he is not going to be pleased when that player doesn't work out. So, I am pretty sure there were meetings where Mr. Jimmy told Freddie and Stef (separately, obviously) - in no uncertain terms - "Get the ball to OBJ." But, it just wasn't meant to be.
Again, I'm not even blaming OBJ as it lies. He's a very talented player, but it just didn't connect. They were not sympatico. And Colin stated many times no one was really to blame (I would lean towards blaming Mr. Jimmy for making a bad decision to begin with). How would things be different, if, for example, instead of trading for OBJ, they kept those draft picks and ended up grabbing a, I don't know, an A.J. Brown, D.K. Metcalf or Chase Claypool? What would that team look like? How much better would the chemistry be?
I know some of the old timers are dispersing spittle over even the thought of OBJ not working out. Hey, the world isn't perfect. Look at the clusterF--k elections.
I'm not sure OBJ has "boosted Baker's development." I feel Baker was pressured into finding OBJ on a lot of plays where OBJ was not the open WR. To me, that would hinder BM's development. But when the bossman spent all that $ and draft capitol on a player, he is not going to be pleased when that player doesn't work out. So, I am pretty sure there were meetings where Mr. Jimmy told Freddie and Stef (separately, obviously) - in no uncertain terms - "Get the ball to OBJ." But, it just wasn't meant to be.
I think it’s clear that Baker was thinking too much with OBJ on the field. So yea, it appeared as if OBJ hindered his development. I just don’t think it has some negative impact on Baker’s future. It’s a good thing that he got to play with high level receivers early in his career.
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I'm not sure OBJ has "boosted Baker's development." I feel Baker was pressured into finding OBJ on a lot of plays where OBJ was not the open WR. To me, that would hinder BM's development. But when the bossman spent all that $ and draft capitol on a player, he is not going to be pleased when that player doesn't work out. So, I am pretty sure there were meetings where Mr. Jimmy told Freddie and Stef (separately, obviously) - in no uncertain terms - "Get the ball to OBJ." But, it just wasn't meant to be.
I think it’s clear that Baker was thinking too much with OBJ on the field. So yea, it appeared as if OBJ hindered his development. I just don’t think it has some negative impact on Baker’s future. It’s a good thing that he got to play with high level receivers early in his career.
I think it’s clear that Baker was thinking too much with OBJ on the field. So yea, it appeared as if OBJ hindered his development. I just don’t think it has some negative impact on Baker’s future. It’s a good thing that he got to play with high level receivers early in his career.
Yea, I agree, it doesn't have to hinder his future. I just hope he finds a groove like he did vs. Cinci where he sees the whole field and finds the open guy, like the best QBs learn to do, like a Montana or Wilson.
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OBJ sometimes wears a skirt. He has to be the center of attention, some up to many times. He's gotta be a little weird. But none of that should matter in between the lines, whether it be practice or games. If having a star receiver, who is perceived by current and past team mates as a GOOD team mate, makes your QB a worse QB...then you have the wrong QB.
The Browns are more difficult to defend with OBJ on the team. And the QB had better be able to 'jive' with him in between the lines. (and we ain't talking Josh Gordon 'lines')
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