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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/colorado-passes-resolution-to-throw-states-electoral-votes-to-popular-vote-winner

    Even though the Constitution gets weaker every day I think this will have a rough time passing muster.

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      Read up on the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. 

      You'll find many right leaning sources making a claim that it is unconstitutional, but if 18 states have already signed up for it then it looks like there's a strong argument against that. 

      It is a very smart way to internally drive change without waiting on compromise that will never happen. 

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        Have any of these states actually started doing this?  Looking at the electoral map, all states are giving their electoral votes to  their statewide winner, not the national winner

        If they are going to do the popular vote, wouldn’t they have to wait until ALL votes are counted in ALL states?

        "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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          Have any of these states actually started doing this?  Looking at the electoral map, all states are giving their electoral votes to  their statewide winner, not the national winner

          If they are going to do the popular vote, wouldn’t they have to wait until ALL votes are counted in ALL states?

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          @browns149 said:

          Have any of these states actually started doing this?  Looking at the electoral map, all states are giving their electoral votes to  their statewide winner, not the national winner

          If they are going to do the popular vote, wouldn’t they have to wait until ALL votes are counted in ALL states?

          It doesn't go in effect until there are enough states to provide 270 electoral college votes. 

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            Have any of these states actually started doing this?  Looking at the electoral map, all states are giving their electoral votes to  their statewide winner, not the national winner

            If they are going to do the popular vote, wouldn’t they have to wait until ALL votes are counted in ALL states?

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            @browns149 said:

            Have any of these states actually started doing this?  Looking at the electoral map, all states are giving their electoral votes to  their statewide winner, not the national winner

            If they are going to do the popular vote, wouldn’t they have to wait until ALL votes are counted in ALL states?

            Check out Maine & Nebraska on the current Electoral College map.

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              @browns149 said:

              Have any of these states actually started doing this?  Looking at the electoral map, all states are giving their electoral votes to  their statewide winner, not the national winner

              If they are going to do the popular vote, wouldn’t they have to wait until ALL votes are counted in ALL states?

              Check out Maine & Nebraska on the current Electoral College map.

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              @canton-dawg said:

              Check out Maine & Nebraska on the current Electoral College map.

              If that’s case why are there on 3 electoral votes in Maine? There should be 4

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                @canton-dawg said:

                Check out Maine & Nebraska on the current Electoral College map.

                If that’s case why are there on 3 electoral votes in Maine? There should be 4

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                @browns149 said:

                If that’s case why are there on 3 electoral votes in Maine? There should be 4

                From what I gather on the news, their electoral votes are issued by the number of ballots casts for each candidate.

                First time I’ve heard of it.

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                  @browns149 said:

                  If that’s case why are there on 3 electoral votes in Maine? There should be 4

                  From what I gather on the news, their electoral votes are issued by the number of ballots casts for each candidate.

                  First time I’ve heard of it.

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                  @canton-dawg said:

                  From what I gather on the news, their electoral votes are issued by the number of ballots casts for each candidate.

                  First time I’ve heard of it.

                  But there still should be 4 total. It says Biden 3 Trump 0

                  "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                    @canton-dawg said:

                    From what I gather on the news, their electoral votes are issued by the number of ballots casts for each candidate.

                    First time I’ve heard of it.

                    But there still should be 4 total. It says Biden 3 Trump 0

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                    @browns149 said:

                    But there still should be 4 total. It says Biden 3 Trump 0

                    That’s the news for you.

                    Fox had Trump with 55% of the votes in Virginia but they had Biden’s name with the check mark that he was winning.

                    Go figure.

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                      @browns149 said:

                      Have any of these states actually started doing this?  Looking at the electoral map, all states are giving their electoral votes to  their statewide winner, not the national winner

                      If they are going to do the popular vote, wouldn’t they have to wait until ALL votes are counted in ALL states?

                      Check out Maine & Nebraska on the current Electoral College map.

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                      @canton-dawg said:

                      Check out Maine & Nebraska on the current Electoral College map.

                      @browns149 said:

                      If that’s case why are there on 3 electoral votes in Maine? There should be 4

                      The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact and what Nebraska and Maine do are different. 

                      Main and Nebraska award 2 electoral votes to the candidate that wins the popular vote in the state. They then award their remaining votes (2 in maine, 3 in nebraska) based on the popular vote winner within their respective districts in thale state. 

                      So Maine is broken into two districts each with their own popular vote 

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                        @canton-dawg said:

                        From what I gather on the news, their electoral votes are issued by the number of ballots casts for each candidate.

                        First time I’ve heard of it.

                        But there still should be 4 total. It says Biden 3 Trump 0

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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                        @browns149 said:

                        But there still should be 4 total. It says Biden 3 Trump 0

                        The popular vote is determined, and one of their two districts is determined

                        The second district isn't called yet

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                          @canton-dawg said:

                          Check out Maine & Nebraska on the current Electoral College map.

                          @browns149 said:

                          If that’s case why are there on 3 electoral votes in Maine? There should be 4

                          The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact and what Nebraska and Maine do are different. 

                          Main and Nebraska award 2 electoral votes to the candidate that wins the popular vote in the state. They then award their remaining votes (2 in maine, 3 in nebraska) based on the popular vote winner within their respective districts in thale state. 

                          So Maine is broken into two districts each with their own popular vote 

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                          @mld-woody said:

                          The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact and what Nebraska and Maine do are different. 

                          Main and Nebraska award 2 electoral votes to the candidate that wins the popular vote in the state. They then award their remaining votes (2 in maine, 3 in nebraska) based on the popular vote winner within their respective districts in thale state. 

                          So Maine is broken into two districts each with their own popular vote 

                          So there is 2 votes for total state votes and 1 for each district, which there are 2 

                          2+2=4. Or is there new math now?

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                            @browns149 said:

                            But there still should be 4 total. It says Biden 3 Trump 0

                            The popular vote is determined, and one of their two districts is determined

                            The second district isn't called yet

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                            @mld-woody said:

                            The popular vote is determined, and one of their two districts is determined

                            The second district isn't called yet

                            Ok. I didn’t look that far into it

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                              @browns149 said:

                              But there still should be 4 total. It says Biden 3 Trump 0

                              That’s the news for you.

                              Fox had Trump with 55% of the votes in Virginia but they had Biden’s name with the check mark that he was winning.

                              Go figure.

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                              @canton-dawg said:

                              That’s the news for you.

                              Fox had Trump with 55% of the votes in Virginia but they had Biden’s name with the check mark that he was winning.

                              Go figure.

                              I couldn't believe it ...they called Virginia for Biden WITH LESS THAN !% OF THE VOTE IN. AND TRUMP WAS LEADING. Much later, biden "took the lead".

                              yeah, like in Wisconsin, Michigan...they are still trying in PA.

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                                @mld-woody said:

                                The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact and what Nebraska and Maine do are different. 

                                Main and Nebraska award 2 electoral votes to the candidate that wins the popular vote in the state. They then award their remaining votes (2 in maine, 3 in nebraska) based on the popular vote winner within their respective districts in thale state. 

                                So Maine is broken into two districts each with their own popular vote 

                                So there is 2 votes for total state votes and 1 for each district, which there are 2 

                                2+2=4. Or is there new math now?

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                                @browns149 said:

                                So there is 2 votes for total state votes and 1 for each district, which there are 2 

                                2+2=4. Or is there new math now?

                                4 total

                                2 to total state popular vote

                                1 to the popular vote winner in the 1st district

                                1 to the popular vote winner in the 2nd district

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                                  Meanwhile, the democrat voting fraud coup is all in more than one state:

                                  https://www.theblaze.com/news/georgia-election-uncounted-ballots-60k

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                                    @browns149 said:

                                    Have any of these states actually started doing this?  Looking at the electoral map, all states are giving their electoral votes to  their statewide winner, not the national winner

                                    If they are going to do the popular vote, wouldn’t they have to wait until ALL votes are counted in ALL states?

                                    It doesn't go in effect until there are enough states to provide 270 electoral college votes. 

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                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    It doesn't go in effect until there are enough states to provide 270 electoral college votes. 

                                    Regardless of your wishes Woody I would say it's still unconstitutional. No way to tell how long States will have any rights whatsoever but ... We will see when it comes up. If it is I suppose your side will need to change the Constitution. Not sure if that can be done with a simple majority or if you still need 60% of the states to agree.

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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          It doesn't go in effect until there are enough states to provide 270 electoral college votes. 

                                          Regardless of your wishes Woody I would say it's still unconstitutional. No way to tell how long States will have any rights whatsoever but ... We will see when it comes up. If it is I suppose your side will need to change the Constitution. Not sure if that can be done with a simple majority or if you still need 60% of the states to agree.

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                                          @westside-steve said:

                                          Regardless of your wishes Woody I would say it's still unconstitutional. No way to tell how long States will have any rights whatsoever but ... We will see when it comes up. If it is I suppose your side will need to change the Constitution. Not sure if that can be done with a simple majority or if you still need 60% of the states to agree.

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                                          The Constitution will not need to be changed. That's the point. Not to mention this is giving the states MORE rights, as they're each making their own decision. 

                                          Regardless of your wishes Steve I would say it's still constitutional

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