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  • W Westside Steve

    @mld-woody said:

    ... is Trump refusing the admit defeat and dragging this out

    After weeks, months, years of hearing about "big serious trouble", hearing how Biden will destroy the country,... now it is on Trump to do his part. 

    Who cares? Is something is going to keep you up tonight?

    WSS

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    @westside-steve said:

    Who cares? Is something is going to keep you up tonight?

    WSS

    What do you think happens if Trump refuses to accept reality and continues to pump up his cult Steve? 

    I know you like to play dumb to avoid talking about certain things on the right, but come on. 

    After all of these fake pearl clutching claims of "socialism" and what not, we now have potentially a real issue. A sitting president refusing to leave and a sizeable portion of this country following his lead.

    I know someone gets through to the man. He could literally just start a right wing Trump network, shoveling nonsense to his supporters a day, make a killing and walk off into the sunset. 

    Hopefully his inner circle can convince him.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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      And now, I'm not claiming some civil war, apocalyptic scenario like certain posters on here. I'm talking about a sitting president undermining our democratic process. And what the result would be among his cult 

      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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        @westside-steve said:

        Who cares? Is something is going to keep you up tonight?

        WSS

        What do you think happens if Trump refuses to accept reality and continues to pump up his cult Steve? 

        I know you like to play dumb to avoid talking about certain things on the right, but come on. 

        After all of these fake pearl clutching claims of "socialism" and what not, we now have potentially a real issue. A sitting president refusing to leave and a sizeable portion of this country following his lead.

        I know someone gets through to the man. He could literally just start a right wing Trump network, shoveling nonsense to his supporters a day, make a killing and walk off into the sunset. 

        Hopefully his inner circle can convince him.

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        @mld-woody said:

        What do you think happens if Trump refuses to accept reality and continues to pump up his cult Steve? 

        I know you like to play dumb to avoid talking about certain things on the right, but come on. 

         I'm saying I don't care woodpecker. It's over. Relax.

        After all of these fake pearl clutching claims of "socialism" and what not, we now have potentially a real issue. A sitting president refusing to leave and a sizeable portion of this country following his lead.

        Follow his lead? What are you talking about it.

        I know someone gets through to the man. He could literally just start a right wing Trump network, shoveling nonsense to his supporters a day, make a killing and walk off into the sunset. 

        Seems like that bothers you a little bit too much. Put on your best Bib and Tucker here come de free shit train.

        Hopefully his inner circle can convince him.

        Oh I'm sure there was election fraud just probably not enough to make a difference.

        PS this just came in my inbox. Hahaha

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          And now, I'm not claiming some civil war, apocalyptic scenario like certain posters on here. I'm talking about a sitting president undermining our democratic process. And what the result would be among his cult 

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          @mld-woody said:

          And now, I'm not claiming some civil war, apocalyptic scenario like certain posters on here. I'm talking about a sitting president undermining our democratic process. And what the result would be among his cult 

          Why bring up Obama?

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          • W Westside Steve

            @mld-woody said:

            What do you think happens if Trump refuses to accept reality and continues to pump up his cult Steve? 

            I know you like to play dumb to avoid talking about certain things on the right, but come on. 

             I'm saying I don't care woodpecker. It's over. Relax.

            After all of these fake pearl clutching claims of "socialism" and what not, we now have potentially a real issue. A sitting president refusing to leave and a sizeable portion of this country following his lead.

            Follow his lead? What are you talking about it.

            I know someone gets through to the man. He could literally just start a right wing Trump network, shoveling nonsense to his supporters a day, make a killing and walk off into the sunset. 

            Seems like that bothers you a little bit too much. Put on your best Bib and Tucker here come de free shit train.

            Hopefully his inner circle can convince him.

            Oh I'm sure there was election fraud just probably not enough to make a difference.

            PS this just came in my inbox. Hahaha

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            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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            @westside-steve said:

            PS this just came in my inbox. Hahaha

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            You're one of their strongest supporters Stephen, they need you!

            (Also, with a "ph"? well la dee da. I'm a "v"... a Real American)

            Also, I expect no free stuff. I voted to increase my own taxes. 

            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              @westside-steve said:

              PS this just came in my inbox. Hahaha

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              You're one of their strongest supporters Stephen, they need you!

              (Also, with a "ph"? well la dee da. I'm a "v"... a Real American)

              Also, I expect no free stuff. I voted to increase my own taxes. 

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              @mld-woody said:

              Also, I expect no free stuff. I voted to increase my own taxes. 

              According to Jo&Ho unless you make over $400k a yr your taxes wont go up.. I'm sure Jo&ho wouldn't lie..?

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                @mld-woody said:

                Also, I expect no free stuff. I voted to increase my own taxes. 

                According to Jo&Ho unless you make over $400k a yr your taxes wont go up.. I'm sure Jo&ho wouldn't lie..?

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                @axe said:

                According to Jo&Ho unless you make over $400k a yr your taxes wont go up.. I'm sure Jo&ho wouldn't lie..?

                I meant locally. 

                If it is $400k for their platform I'm good. If it is a different cutoff then it depends on the cutoff. 

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                  Good thing I make just under 399,000.

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                    @westside-steve said:

                    PS this just came in my inbox. Hahaha

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                    You're one of their strongest supporters Stephen, they need you!

                    (Also, with a "ph"? well la dee da. I'm a "v"... a Real American)

                    Also, I expect no free stuff. I voted to increase my own taxes. 

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                    @mld-woody said:

                    You're one of their strongest supporters Stephen, they need you!

                    (Also, with a "ph"? well la dee da. I'm a "v"... a Real American)

                    Also, I expect no free stuff. I voted to increase my own taxes. 

                    I think the effect on the average guys taxes are going to be negligible. Stupid to worry about it either way.

                    As far as the pH of course I would expect hostility from a bitter atheist against the spelling of the saint name. ???

                    Let's not be coy you supported free shit for a long long time. Unless you have changed your position on Healthcare free college dataadd a guaranteed weightguaranteed wage.

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                      @mld-woody said:

                      You're one of their strongest supporters Stephen, they need you!

                      (Also, with a "ph"? well la dee da. I'm a "v"... a Real American)

                      Also, I expect no free stuff. I voted to increase my own taxes. 

                      I think the effect on the average guys taxes are going to be negligible. Stupid to worry about it either way.

                      As far as the pH of course I would expect hostility from a bitter atheist against the spelling of the saint name. ???

                      Let's not be coy you supported free shit for a long long time. Unless you have changed your position on Healthcare free college dataadd a guaranteed weightguaranteed wage.

                      WSS

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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      @westside-steve said:

                      I think the effect on the average guys taxes are going to be negligible. Stupid to worry about it either way.

                      As far as the pH of course I would expect hostility from a bitter atheist against the spelling of the saint name. ???

                      Let's not be coy you supported free shit for a long long time. Unless you have changed your position on Healthcare free college dataadd a guaranteed weightguaranteed wage.

                      WSS

                      I support "free shit" where it makes sense. The vast majority of it isn't for me though. 

                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                        @westside-steve said:

                        I think the effect on the average guys taxes are going to be negligible. Stupid to worry about it either way.

                        As far as the pH of course I would expect hostility from a bitter atheist against the spelling of the saint name. ???

                        Let's not be coy you supported free shit for a long long time. Unless you have changed your position on Healthcare free college dataadd a guaranteed weightguaranteed wage.

                        WSS

                        I support "free shit" where it makes sense. The vast majority of it isn't for me though. 

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                        @mld-woody said:

                        I support "free shit" where it makes sense. The vast majority of it isn't for me though. 

                        And that's one major disagreement between us. I don't think anybody is not going to college because they can't afford it. Too many programs too many loans available. The reason college graduates are more successful is because they went through the trouble of getting the degree. When they pass out the degrees like toilet paper like high school graduation diplomas they won't mean anything anymore and people that need to hire someone will hire people with Advanced degrees. Also four more years of public school at the prices universities are charging will be a monstrous wait on the taxpayers. I know some of you people think the taxpayer is the goose that lays the golden eggs. But it's not. Successful people work harder to earn that success.

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                          @mld-woody said:

                          I support "free shit" where it makes sense. The vast majority of it isn't for me though. 

                          And that's one major disagreement between us. I don't think anybody is not going to college because they can't afford it. Too many programs too many loans available. The reason college graduates are more successful is because they went through the trouble of getting the degree. When they pass out the degrees like toilet paper like high school graduation diplomas they won't mean anything anymore and people that need to hire someone will hire people with Advanced degrees. Also four more years of public school at the prices universities are charging will be a monstrous wait on the taxpayers. I know some of you people think the taxpayer is the goose that lays the golden eggs. But it's not. Successful people work harder to earn that success.

                          WSS

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                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                          @westside-steve said:

                          And that's one major disagreement between us. I don't think anybody is not going to college because they can't afford it. Too many programs too many loans available. The reason college graduates are more successful is because they went through the trouble of getting the degree. When they pass out the degrees like toilet paper like high school graduation diplomas they won't mean anything anymore and people that need to hire someone will hire people with Advanced degrees. Also four more years of public school at the prices universities are charging will be a monstrous wait on the taxpayers. I know some of you people think the taxpayer is the goose that lays the golden eggs. But it's not. Successful people work harder to earn that success.

                          WSS

                          I mean the bolded is just pretty damn incorrect to start with...

                          Not to mention all of the people that do go to college, do take out the loans, and then deal with years/decades of interest payments. 

                          The college tuition is a bubble waiting to burst. It has climbed higher than wages. A crazy amount. Other countries manage this, I would hope we could make the situation better too.

                          Or a group of our country can hold out hope that some billionaire will trickle down all over them.......

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                            @westside-steve said:

                            And that's one major disagreement between us. I don't think anybody is not going to college because they can't afford it. Too many programs too many loans available. The reason college graduates are more successful is because they went through the trouble of getting the degree. When they pass out the degrees like toilet paper like high school graduation diplomas they won't mean anything anymore and people that need to hire someone will hire people with Advanced degrees. Also four more years of public school at the prices universities are charging will be a monstrous wait on the taxpayers. I know some of you people think the taxpayer is the goose that lays the golden eggs. But it's not. Successful people work harder to earn that success.

                            WSS

                            I mean the bolded is just pretty damn incorrect to start with...

                            Not to mention all of the people that do go to college, do take out the loans, and then deal with years/decades of interest payments. 

                            The college tuition is a bubble waiting to burst. It has climbed higher than wages. A crazy amount. Other countries manage this, I would hope we could make the situation better too.

                            Or a group of our country can hold out hope that some billionaire will trickle down all over them.......

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                            @mld-woody said:

                            I mean the bolded is just pretty damn incorrect to start with...

                            Not to mention all of the people that do go to college, do take out the loans, and then deal with years/decades of interest payments. 

                            As they should. Or they shouldn't bother spending money on something that doesn't offer a return. Don't take out a loan for $10,000 Martin d-45 custom if you can't play the guitar.

                            The college tuition is a bubble waiting to burst. It has climbed higher than wages. A crazy amount. Other countries manage this, I would hope we could make the situation better too.

                             of course you can there are thousands if not millions of people earning good livings working in the institution system. You just destroy the entire University way of life and give everybody a free University of Phoenix online education.

                            Or a group of our country can hold out hope that some billionaire will trickle down all over them.......

                             power to the people. The problem isn't the money the problem is it seems like most Americans are too lazy to put in the work for the reward. Does it seem that way in Asia India the Middle East Etc ? Not so much. But it's easier to blame the rich man.

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                              And again on the education front one of the reasons Americans don't  in the work is because the poorest American has free Transportation Free Housing free food free medical care free cable television free cell phones almost free utilities. I would imagine poor people in India or Thailand or Mexico aren't living that well. But anybody with average intelligence who's willing to do some work can learn enough to make a living. But it's all too easy to get used to the path of least resistance. Which isn't that rough here in the USA.

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                                I'm just going to go with you being way, way too removed from the situation to really know anything about college, tuition, student loans, etc. That's become abundantly clear. We've seen the same with other posters on here as well. Hopefully we can fix the system before it financially handcuffs an entire generation. Until then we'll just hear from the "I walked to school uphill both ways" crowd that includes the people that can actually do something about it.

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                                  And like your cult leader Joe Biden said if you can learn to mine coal or build a tire you can learn to program. Probably true. Unfortunately for every five hundred Tire builders you need maybe one programmer.

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                                    I'm just going to go with you being way, way too removed from the situation to really know anything about college, tuition, student loans, etc. That's become abundantly clear. We've seen the same with other posters on here as well. Hopefully we can fix the system before it financially handcuffs an entire generation. Until then we'll just hear from the "I walked to school uphill both ways" crowd that includes the people that can actually do something about it.

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                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    I'm just going to go with you being way, way too removed from the situation to really know anything about college, tuition, student loans, etc. That's become abundantly clear. We've seen the same with other posters on here as well. Hopefully we can fix the system before it financially handcuffs an entire generation. Until then we'll just hear from the "I walked to school uphill both ways" crowd that includes the people that can actually do something about it.

                                    And I will just go with you and your adolescent opinion that it's the rich man's fault. Learn to do something that most people can't do or don't want to do or are just too lazy to do and you should have some success. Or just print out a diploma from Joe Biden Free University and then sit around and bitch that you were overqualified.

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                                      I'm just going to go with you being way, way too removed from the situation to really know anything about college, tuition, student loans, etc. That's become abundantly clear. We've seen the same with other posters on here as well. Hopefully we can fix the system before it financially handcuffs an entire generation. Until then we'll just hear from the "I walked to school uphill both ways" crowd that includes the people that can actually do something about it.

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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      I'm just going to go with you being way, way too removed from the situation to really know anything about college, tuition, student loans, etc. That's become abundantly clear. We've seen the same with other posters on here as well. Hopefully we can fix the system before it financially handcuffs an entire generation. Until then we'll just hear from the "I walked to school uphill both ways" crowd that includes the people that can actually do something about it.

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