Poll: Who Admits Defeat First?

[MLD Woody]

[hoorta]

@westside-steve said:

Serious question Woody what do you think the odds are of actual election malfeasance in any of these disputed states? Just a guess.

I'll start with my guess. Moderate but probably not enough to swing the election the other way. But certainly enough to stink it up.

WSS

Trump is looking dirt digging for the slightest whiffs of stink anywhere he can find it . Down to individual votes that in his alternate reality will justify tossing out 100,000 of thousands of votes. 

As I saw  explained by a constitutional lawyer- "irregularities" do not equal FRAUD Steve.  Latest from the top election officials in Nevada, (Republican dominated) Georgia, Wisconsin and Michigan zero evidence of voter fraud. Trump can fight his battle- sort of like Napoleon against Russia- and the result IMHO is going to be the same.   

Wonder how Cal feels when Katie got cut off by FOX no less- for perpetrating unsubstantiated voter fraud crap.  

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@mld-woody said:

Promised I'd eventually post it Woody.   

Now for a cheer he comes triumphant!
Here he come with banners flying,
In stalwart step they're nighing,
With shouts of vict'ry crying,
We hurrah, hurrah, we greet him now,
Hail!

Hail! to the victor valiant
Hail! to the conqu'ring hero
Hail! Hail! to Joe Biden
the leader of the best
Hail! to the victor valiant
Hail! to the conqu'ring hero
Hail! Hail! to Joe Biden 
the champion of the West!

((((()))))   

[hoorta]

@mld-woody said:

"We are the Champions?"  I'll go you one better.  Aw- no one can claim they've never seen the Wizard of Oz.   

"As the Mayor of Trumpkin City, in the Fantasy Land of Trump- I must tell you sadly, and CONCLUSIVLELY that Trump REALLY, REALLY lost.  So let us break out in song...  

The wicked old Trump at last is GONE!!!!  

DING DONG THE TRUMP IS GONE

WHICH OLD TRUMP? 

THE WICKED TRUMP

DING DONG THE WICKED TRUMP IS GONE....

DING DONG THE TRUMP IS GONE

WHICH OLD TRUMP? 

THE WICKED TRUMP

DING DONG THE WICKED TRUMP IS GONE....

YEAH- BEFORE I LEAVE TO LET YOU CRY IN YOUR BEER- PLENTY MORE TO COME....  

[DieHardBrownsFan]

I think you've lost it.

[hoorta]

@diehardbrownsfan said:

I think you've lost it.

I knew you MAGAs lost it a long time ago....  Following a pathological liar off the cliff.... 

You a Star Trek fan?  If you're not, let me give you one of the all time most memorable quotes from any episode, slightly modified. Movie "The Wrath of Kahn"... 

Revenge is a dish best served cold.... It is very cold in CYBERSPACE... 

You lemmings have had it coming for a very long time.  Anyone who is dedicated to Trumpisim  are the ones who have "lost it"...   

Question- has Trump the Almighty conjured up a cure for covid yet?   That he said at least 38 times was "just going to go away?" 

[Westside Steve]

@hoorta said:

I knew you MAGAs lost it a long time ago....  Following a pathological liar off the cliff.... 

Probably better to just wait and see what kind of paradise your cult leaders usher in.  I assume the bbsquad is planning to shill for them for the next four years? No doubt the MSM will have your back.

WSS

[MLD Woody]

@hoorta said:

Promised I'd eventually post it Woody.   

Now for a cheer he comes triumphant!
Here he come with banners flying,
In stalwart step they're nighing,
With shouts of vict'ry crying,
We hurrah, hurrah, we greet him now,
Hail!

Hail! to the victor valiant
Hail! to the conqu'ring hero
Hail! Hail! to Joe Biden
the leader of the best
Hail! to the victor valiant
Hail! to the conqu'ring hero
Hail! Hail! to Joe Biden 
the champion of the West!

((((()))))   

Eeewwwwwww

[MLD Woody]

@westside-steve said:

Probably better to just wait and see what kind of paradise your cult leaders usher in.  I assume the bbsquad is planning to shill for them for the next four years? No doubt the MSM will have your back.

WSS

This post above just reflects a complete lack of reality. High level typical Steve stuff. 

I realize our Trump voters on this board loved the man, but you can actually vote for Joe Biden without liking him. 

When I've actively called Biden a shit candidate that won't do much of anything, multiple times, and you say that he's my "cult leader"...  I think that's just a little bit of projection there. 

Biden is no one's "cult leader", no matter how much you want to try projecting Trump's faults 

[Westside Steve]

@mld-woody said:

This post above just reflects a complete lack of reality. High level typical Steve stuff. 

I realize our Trump voters on this board loved the man, but you can actually vote for Joe Biden without liking him. 

When I've actively called Biden a shit candidate that won't do much of anything, multiple times, and you say that he's my "cult leader"...  I think that's just a little bit of projection there. 

Biden is no one's "cult leader", no matter how much you want to try projecting Trump's faults 

Sorry little bitch. After 4 years of the same rubbish from you and the others in the BB Squad it's time for you to eat from the same bowl of shit. You and your computer it's are absolutely no better than those you scream about on a daily basis. Suck it up.

WSS

[Westside Steve]

By the way woodpecker you spent the entire last four years squealing about the fact that you didn't vote for Hillary when anybody called her your girl.

WSS

[MLD Woody]

@westside-steve said:

By the way woodpecker you spent the entire last four years squealing about the fact that you didn't vote for Hillary when anybody called her your girl.

WSS

You mean when someone said something false I called it out as being false?

Shit, imagine that!

[MLD Woody]

@westside-steve said:

Sorry little bitch. After 4 years of the same rubbish from you and the others in the BB Squad it's time for you to eat from the same bowl of shit. You and your computer it's are absolutely no better than those you scream about on a daily basis. Suck it up.

WSS

Yeah so you're still just fabricating your own reality to help you feel more correct in your arguments online. 

Just pretending that those on here that don't support Trump are equal to the Trump cult on here makes it easier for you to argue, create false equivalencies, etc. 

You can keep repeating it all you want but that's never going to make it true. But I realize that's never stopped you before. 

[Westside Steve]

@mld-woody said:

You mean when someone said something false I called it out as being false?

Shit, imagine that!

Exactly. The difference is you didn't vote for her and you did vote for Joe. Simply that. But frankly I haven't heard Joe propose anything that seems to me like you would disagree with. I suspect you're just trying to give the impression of Independence.

WSS

[Westside Steve]

@mld-woody said:

Yeah so you're still just fabricating your own reality to help you feel more correct in your arguments online. 

 just like you right?

Just pretending that those on here that don't support Trump are equal to the Trump cult on here makes it easier for you to argue, create false equivalencies, etc. 

Kind of the only difference is they aren't false. And yes I do agree with the president on many of the positions he publicly takes. I would agree with those positions regardless of the candidate. See unlike you idiots I at least tried to make my decisions on the basis of policy and not personality.

You can keep repeating it all you want but that's never going to make it true. But I realize that's never stopped you before. 

 nor should it. Giving you her propensity toward BS.

[MLD Woody]

You're impossible man. If you want to keep pushing false equivalencies to help make your argument, go ahead. 

Biden sucks

He's better than Hilary

He's much better than Trump

Trump made his personality a policy issue

I'm liberal in my social issues, basically, live and let live. I realize taxes have a purpose too. So if anything actually changes in the next 4 years, which I doubt, I'll probably be ok with it. 

I think climate change is real. I think weed should be legal. Etc

[calfoxwc]

@mld-woody said:

You're impossible man. If you want to keep pushing false equivalencies to help make your argument, go ahead. Biden sucks

He's better than HilaryHe's much better than TrumpTrump made his personality a policy issueI'm l

I think climate change is real. I think weed should be legal. Etc

[DieHardBrownsFan]

@mld-woody said:

I think weed should be legal

[Gorka]

@mld-woody said:

This post above just reflects a complete lack of reality. High level typical Steve stuff. 

I realize our Trump voters on this board loved the man, but you can actually vote for Joe Biden without liking him. 

When I've actively called Biden a shit candidate that won't do much of anything, multiple times, and you say that he's my "cult leader"...  I think that's just a little bit of projection there. 

Biden is no one's "cult leader", no matter how much you want to try projecting Trump's faults 

Oh there is projection, so often has the left accused Trump/conservatives of is what they themselves are guilty of.

This applies to "cult" as well.  The left is the epitome of a cult, Trump and his supporters are the furthest from one.

Consider cases of those indoctrinated into a cult ultimately shutting out and disowning members of their own family. Sound familiar? It should, as there are thousands of cases in which adult children on the left have completely disowned their parents and other family members because they happen to support Trump.

So, in their effort to label Trump as a cult leader and smear all 63 million of his supporters as cultists, media elites have finally cracked open the door to a real discussion about mass conformity. It is fascinating to see this latest “cult-of-Trump” meme coming from the left because they are the true masters of group think and deploying mobs to demand total conformity and compliance with their agenda.

A fascinating sidelight to the “Trump Cult” meme comes from a scholar who has studied the profiles and practices of real-life dictators and their cults of personality. Frank Dikotter is a professor of humanities at the University of Hong Kong who recently published a book titled “How to Be a Dictator: The Cult of Personality in the Twentieth Century.”

In November, during a Q&A session after he spoke about the book at the Cato Institute, Dikotter was asked if Trump might qualify as a dictator who promoted a cult of personality. Dikotter answered this way: “We tend to denounce anyone we don’t like as a dictator. . .

Cults Are Interested In One Thing Only: Amassing Power and Recruits

In order to meditate on this last point, we need to consider how each camp—pro-Trump or anti-Trump—views the consolidation of power. Trump’s detractors are on board with building a mass administrative state, run by unelected bureaucrats accountable to no one but those who will keep the mass state bloating.

They plan to abolish the Electoral College that allows every state to be represented in presidential elections. They hope to secure a “permanent majority” (their words) by gaining recruits (voters) through dependency programs, open borders, and the continuing cultivation of ignorance in education. These practices reflect an unquenchable appetite for power that exactly parallels the operations of cults.

1. Cults Are Defined By Their Methods, Not Their Beliefs

 

Cults use coercive and deceptive methods. They psychologically manipulate people and isolate people from other points of view. Margaret Thaler Singer (1921-2003) was probably the 20th century’s greatest expert on cults. In her must-read book “Cults in Our Midst,” she constantly drove home the point that a group’s beliefs, no matter how outlandish, have nothing to do with it being a cult.

Singer was interested primarily in the methods and processes of undue influence and coercive persuasion that dangerous cults practice widely. The purveyors of the “cult of Trump” meme all despise Trump and what he stands for, exactly counter to Singer’s admonition to ignore beliefs. So instead of looking at the left’s beliefs or Trump’s beliefs, let’s look instead at methods used for achieving goals.

Trump supporters generally adhere to methods involving the rule of law and due process as well as respect for free speech and transparency. Trump himself nominates judges who intend to apply those same processes to their rulings. Whatever you think of Trump’s idiosyncrasies, his policies reflect application of such methods—consistent with the Constitution—quite often with an emphasis on the word “fairness” as it is traditionally understood.

On the other hand, Trump opponents habitually use methods that are coercive, manipulative, and deceptive. They incite high emotion and resentment. They flout the law, as we’ve seen in cases of immigration, impeachment, or election law, as a means of perpetuating their power. They tend to justify lawlessness by claiming they have a moral authority to do so.

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@mld-woody said:

Eeewwwwwww

Sorry if you didn't appreciate it Woody.. ?