The Good, the Bad, and the Lucky
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Good summary...
For the record I still have hope for Baker, but there are concerns to work thru. Strangely his one fumble (the other was a by-the-book forward progress call) really did not upset me from a ball security standpoint. He had the ball in two hands, chest high, ready to throw... it wasn't one of those one-hand, wave-the-ball-around-and-lose-it-when-you-hit-your-own-thigh numbers we've seen in the past. What bothered me about the play was his lack of reaction to the growing pressure coming from his sighted-side.
And the above is a corollary to a general, nascent escapability concern... but too early to get into that one.
Other random thoughts/reactions...
- I think Vernon may finally be healthy... that plus the urgency of the second half of a heretofore disappointing contract year performance... might be his springboard to a great 2nd half of the season.
- WRs returning kick-offs is just a bad idea in general. Give me an RB for those all day long... although Johnson's late one gave me little comfort.
- WRs are fine for punts, but DPJ doesn't have the quickness-based, skill set I look for there in what can resemble broken-field situations very quickly. DBs can excel here as well. Overall I'm not sure I see a well-suited player in our 53 other than Ward... and I'm not inclined to risk him in this duty.
- Taki's pick-6 run showed our LB... and general D-side... issue, lack of speed. I swear I could have timed him with a sand dial and was sure the TE had the angle to catch him.
- Can't be sure, but I think the long, 3rd Qtr completion to Eagles TE, Rogers, that lead to a FG was the same play as his TD catch. Both times he was Wilson's man.
- As for the Iggles... they are simply a very bad team.
Can't be sure, but I think the long, 3rd Qtr completion to Eagles TE, Rogers, that lead to a FG was the same play as his TD catch. Both times he was Wilson's man.
Tour i disagreed in the tavern with you at the time and thought we were playing a cover 3 on the rogers td catch but I rewatched it and you were correct (of course you were), it was man. I only saw Mitchell's drop (which looked like zone but was just sonewhat poor coverage) and the other two linebackers dropped into zones so I thought it was zone. However upon rewatching Sendejo was definitely manned up on the other eligible receiver in the slot on other side. Redwine was playing a single high cover 1 and taki dropped into a zone because his man (the rb) stayed in to block. Long story short here i apologize for doubting you lol.
The second one Wilson did pretty much everything right but mistime his jump which is odd simply because the ball skills he exhibited in the preseason of his rookie year would have lead me to believe he had really good ball skills. However that whole preseason now appears to be fools gold regarding Wilson.
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b.) The 5 yard Baker bootleg call? That was a wasted crap play call imho ?
First I wouldn't technically call it a crap play call because we picked up the first with it. Secondly and more importantly I was talking with tour in the tavern about this play and it didn't appear it was supposed to be a baker bootleg. It looked as if it was a busted play and hunt ran the wrong way. Baker quickly realized it and just got as many yards as possible.
First I wouldn't technically call it a crap play call because we picked up the first with it. Secondly and more importantly I was talking with tour in the tavern about this play and it didn't appear it was supposed to be a baker bootleg. It looked as if it was a busted play and hunt ran the wrong way. Baker quickly realized it and just got as many yards as possible.
I could not tell if it was a busted play or a designed run, lol! I didn't watch it a second time but it worked great! ?
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Carson Wentz is angling for the Triple Frown -- leading in picks, sacks, and fumbles.
Carson Wentz is angling for the Triple Frown -- leading in picks, sacks, and fumbles.
He's a fraud at the QB position..... He would probably do better at hoops...
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Carson Wentz is angling for the Triple Frown -- leading in picks, sacks, and fumbles.
Carson Wentz is angling for the Triple Frown -- leading in picks, sacks, and fumbles.
It's a damn shame... he's gone from a legit MVP candidate to a liability. Justin Fields laughed at his decision-making.
I think the Eagles broke him.
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Good summary...
For the record I still have hope for Baker, but there are concerns to work thru. Strangely his one fumble (the other was a by-the-book forward progress call) really did not upset me from a ball security standpoint. He had the ball in two hands, chest high, ready to throw... it wasn't one of those one-hand, wave-the-ball-around-and-lose-it-when-you-hit-your-own-thigh numbers we've seen in the past. What bothered me about the play was his lack of reaction to the growing pressure coming from his sighted-side.
And the above is a corollary to a general, nascent escapability concern... but too early to get into that one.
Other random thoughts/reactions...
- I think Vernon may finally be healthy... that plus the urgency of the second half of a heretofore disappointing contract year performance... might be his springboard to a great 2nd half of the season.
- WRs returning kick-offs is just a bad idea in general. Give me an RB for those all day long... although Johnson's late one gave me little comfort.
- WRs are fine for punts, but DPJ doesn't have the quickness-based, skill set I look for there in what can resemble broken-field situations very quickly. DBs can excel here as well. Overall I'm not sure I see a well-suited player in our 53 other than Ward... and I'm not inclined to risk him in this duty.
- Taki's pick-6 run showed our LB... and general D-side... issue, lack of speed. I swear I could have timed him with a sand dial and was sure the TE had the angle to catch him.
- Can't be sure, but I think the long, 3rd Qtr completion to Eagles TE, Rogers, that lead to a FG was the same play as his TD catch. Both times he was Wilson's man.
- As for the Iggles... they are simply a very bad team.
Taki's pick-6 run showed our LB... and general D-side... issue, lack of speed. I swear I could have timed him with a sand dial and was sure the TE had the angle to catch him.
I gotta tell you, I don't remember EVER seeing a linebacker that slow. I was screaming at the TV, "Run faster!" Lmao. The guy was running in slow motion, I swear it. I honestly didn't think he was going to make it.
I had a chance to watch the game again. I realize Baker Mayfield messed up missing those early TD tosses, but I don't think people truly understand just how many terrific throws Baker had. On a very early drive we had a 3rd and 10 from our own end zone and Baker slung it across the middle to Hodge for a HUGE 1st down. He had multiple throws that were on the money and he looked infinitely better than Wentz, which doesn't take much. Baker really did have some amazing plays, and I encourage everyone to watch at least the highlights again.
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Taki's pick-6 run showed our LB... and general D-side... issue, lack of speed. I swear I could have timed him with a sand dial and was sure the TE had the angle to catch him.
I gotta tell you, I don't remember EVER seeing a linebacker that slow. I was screaming at the TV, "Run faster!" Lmao. The guy was running in slow motion, I swear it. I honestly didn't think he was going to make it.
I had a chance to watch the game again. I realize Baker Mayfield messed up missing those early TD tosses, but I don't think people truly understand just how many terrific throws Baker had. On a very early drive we had a 3rd and 10 from our own end zone and Baker slung it across the middle to Hodge for a HUGE 1st down. He had multiple throws that were on the money and he looked infinitely better than Wentz, which doesn't take much. Baker really did have some amazing plays, and I encourage everyone to watch at least the highlights again.
I gotta tell you, I don't remember EVER seeing a linebacker that slow. I was screaming at the TV, "Run faster!" Lmao. The guy was running in slow motion, I swear it. I honestly didn't think he was going to make it.
I had a chance to watch the game again. I realize Baker Mayfield messed up missing those early TD tosses, but I don't think people truly understand just how many terrific throws Baker had. On a very early drive we had a 3rd and 10 from our own end zone and Baker slung it across the middle to Hodge for a HUGE 1st down. He had multiple throws that were on the money and he looked infinitely better than Wentz, which doesn't take much. Baker really did have some amazing plays, and I encourage everyone to watch at least the highlights again.
Taki is a lifetime special teamer.. Goodson is very average and Mack Wilson just flat out B L O W S!!!!!
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Taki's pick-6 run showed our LB... and general D-side... issue, lack of speed. I swear I could have timed him with a sand dial and was sure the TE had the angle to catch him.
I gotta tell you, I don't remember EVER seeing a linebacker that slow. I was screaming at the TV, "Run faster!" Lmao. The guy was running in slow motion, I swear it. I honestly didn't think he was going to make it.
I had a chance to watch the game again. I realize Baker Mayfield messed up missing those early TD tosses, but I don't think people truly understand just how many terrific throws Baker had. On a very early drive we had a 3rd and 10 from our own end zone and Baker slung it across the middle to Hodge for a HUGE 1st down. He had multiple throws that were on the money and he looked infinitely better than Wentz, which doesn't take much. Baker really did have some amazing plays, and I encourage everyone to watch at least the highlights again.
I gotta tell you, I don't remember EVER seeing a linebacker that slow. I was screaming at the TV, "Run faster!" Lmao. The guy was running in slow motion, I swear it. I honestly didn't think he was going to make it.
I had a chance to watch the game again. I realize Baker Mayfield messed up missing those early TD tosses, but I don't think people truly understand just how many terrific throws Baker had. On a very early drive we had a 3rd and 10 from our own end zone and Baker slung it across the middle to Hodge for a HUGE 1st down. He had multiple throws that were on the money and he looked infinitely better than Wentz, which doesn't take much. Baker really did have some amazing plays, and I encourage everyone to watch at least the highlights again.
Baker is a competent game manager at this point.
I still see nothing in his play that indicates he will ever progress to being a top-level starting QB.
But for now, he's plenty good enough to help the Browns progress from being a constant 10+ loss team to a competent, solid team.
But do I think he's a guy who will take the Browns from solid to legitimate playoff team/Super Bowl contender?
That's where I have some serious doubts.
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I gotta tell you, I don't remember EVER seeing a linebacker that slow. I was screaming at the TV, "Run faster!" Lmao. The guy was running in slow motion, I swear it. I honestly didn't think he was going to make it.
I had a chance to watch the game again. I realize Baker Mayfield messed up missing those early TD tosses, but I don't think people truly understand just how many terrific throws Baker had. On a very early drive we had a 3rd and 10 from our own end zone and Baker slung it across the middle to Hodge for a HUGE 1st down. He had multiple throws that were on the money and he looked infinitely better than Wentz, which doesn't take much. Baker really did have some amazing plays, and I encourage everyone to watch at least the highlights again.
Taki is a lifetime special teamer.. Goodson is very average and Mack Wilson just flat out B L O W S!!!!!
Taki is a lifetime special teamer.. Goodson is very average and Mack Wilson just flat out B L O W S!!!!!
Mack Wilson might be the worst linebacker in the league. He's so bad that I don't think he'll see a DOWN next year for us. The one thing he did right yesterday was bring the pain to the tight end who was big-league'ing Denzel Ward and Mack gave him the BUSINESS out of bounds.
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Taki is a lifetime special teamer.. Goodson is very average and Mack Wilson just flat out B L O W S!!!!!
Mack Wilson might be the worst linebacker in the league. He's so bad that I don't think he'll see a DOWN next year for us. The one thing he did right yesterday was bring the pain to the tight end who was big-league'ing Denzel Ward and Mack gave him the BUSINESS out of bounds.
Mack Wilson might be the worst linebacker in the league. He's so bad that I don't think he'll see a DOWN next year for us. The one thing he did right yesterday was bring the pain to the tight end who was big-league'ing Denzel Ward and Mack gave him the BUSINESS out of bounds.
Yeah it was funny because Wilson was making excuses for himself on twitter a couple of weeks ago saying He's still injured and it's affecting his play or some shit...
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I gotta tell you, I don't remember EVER seeing a linebacker that slow. I was screaming at the TV, "Run faster!" Lmao. The guy was running in slow motion, I swear it. I honestly didn't think he was going to make it.
I had a chance to watch the game again. I realize Baker Mayfield messed up missing those early TD tosses, but I don't think people truly understand just how many terrific throws Baker had. On a very early drive we had a 3rd and 10 from our own end zone and Baker slung it across the middle to Hodge for a HUGE 1st down. He had multiple throws that were on the money and he looked infinitely better than Wentz, which doesn't take much. Baker really did have some amazing plays, and I encourage everyone to watch at least the highlights again.
Baker is a competent game manager at this point.
I still see nothing in his play that indicates he will ever progress to being a top-level starting QB.
But for now, he's plenty good enough to help the Browns progress from being a constant 10+ loss team to a competent, solid team.
But do I think he's a guy who will take the Browns from solid to legitimate playoff team/Super Bowl contender?
That's where I have some serious doubts.
Baker is a competent game manager at this point.
I still see nothing in his play that indicates he will ever progress to being a top-level starting QB.
But for now, he's plenty good enough to help the Browns progress from being a constant 10+ loss team to a competent, solid team.
But do I think he's a guy who will take the Browns from solid to legitimate playoff team/Super Bowl contender?
That's where I have some serious doubts.
Honestly, you could have had those kinds of doubts about 30-40% of the QBs that HAVE taken their teams to Super Bowls. If you go down the list of all QBs who have started in the Super Bowl, it is not like they are all HOF caliber.
Names: Lamonica, Morrall, Kapp, MOrton, Kilmer, Ferragamo, Jaworski, Anderson, Woodley, Theisman, Plunkett, Eason, McMahon, Simms, Williams, Esiason, Humphries, O'Donnell, McNair, Bledsoe, Dilfer, Johnson, Gannon, Delhomme, Hasselback, Grossman, McNabb.....All SB starters, all HOF eligible, none in. And then some actives: Flacco, Kaepernick, Foles, Goff, Garrapolo....not sure those are HOF caliber. I am not sure that Baker is any less capable than this whole list of names. You also have to have the rest of the team do its part.
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