**** Official Browns at Jaguars Gameday Thread
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There was some legit ref fuckery going on at the end. Some bad spots and some bad penalties. Browns by the grace of god beat the refs and Jacksonville today
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Why!!! Sneak. Sneak the ball.
nothing is easy this year nothing
Why!!! Sneak. Sneak the ball.
nothing is easy this year nothing
Nothing is easy ANY YEAR with the Browns.
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There was some legit ref fuckery going on at the end. Some bad spots and some bad penalties. Browns by the grace of god beat the refs and Jacksonville today
There was some legit ref fuckery going on at the end. Some bad spots and some bad penalties. Browns by the grace of god beat the refs and Jacksonville today
played against 12 (?/?) most the day... offense & defense... Ugly wins count the same.. we'll need better play both sides next week..
a 2nd game view will be digested.. Stef had some weird play-calls too? interested to see what he was seeing?
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There was some legit ref fuckery going on at the end. Some bad spots and some bad penalties. Browns by the grace of god beat the refs and Jacksonville today
There was some legit ref fuckery going on at the end. Some bad spots and some bad penalties. Browns by the grace of god beat the refs and Jacksonville today
No one is happy. You have Jags fans upset getting the calls they got because they want a chance to draft T. Lawrence.
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There was some legit ref fuckery going on at the end. Some bad spots and some bad penalties. Browns by the grace of god beat the refs and Jacksonville today
There was some legit ref fuckery going on at the end. Some bad spots and some bad penalties. Browns by the grace of god beat the refs and Jacksonville today
I don't know if you can sum it up and better. You also have to add in mistakes. The ONLY thing that was going to let Jax stay in the game was turnovers. Bryant simply cannot fumble that ball (again). The other mistakes came from Baker and our coach. We had 3rd and inches. How do you not run a sneak there like EVERY other team in the league? To be fair, coach dialed up a play that got Kareem wide open and Baker threw one of the worst passes in the history of the world. Baker literally could have underhand tossed it to Hunt, and instead fired a bullet way behind him. I'm not even sure how it's possible.
Coach should have kicked a FG there to go up potentially 11. I'm not even sure why he went for it. I mean, I GET why, but that's really the only time I've disagreed with him all year.
I'm having a difficult time truly evaluating Baker. He had an abundance of magnificent throws today, and that needs to be said first and foremost. He was outstanding on 3rd down and lead our offense to a "puntless" afternoon. He also didn't fumble or throw a pick. In fact, I don't think Baker has thrown a pick in about a month. All of these good things must be said about him. However, Baker yet again made throws today that the most inexperienced player could've easily made.
On one, Baker missed a wide open Higgins in the end zone by about 5 feet. It wasn't close. Baker waited for his throwing lane, and then at the last second saw a defender raise his arm which caused him to let it loose high. At least, this is my opinion of what happened. When you watch it in real time, you can see that something is not quite right with the delivery. Regardless, Baker effed up yet again at the goal line and it simply CANNOT happen. We lost 4 points there and we sorely needed them at the end.
The other atrocious pass Baker made was on the aforementioned bullet to Hunt. I don't get it, I really don't. Just throw him the ball. That's all you have to do. I've seen Baker miss Hunt on that same pass 5-6 times this year and it's always the same thing. Baker tosses some rocket directly behind him and Hunt can't catch it. Why is anyone's guess, but it needs to be fixed.
We won, and ultimately that's all that matters. We didn't force a turnover, we GAVE them one, we suffered through multiple awful calls, and we had nobody on defense capable of making a play. Our tackling and coverage was simply catastrophic. Yet despite ALL of this, we won.
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There was some legit ref fuckery going on at the end. Some bad spots and some bad penalties. Browns by the grace of god beat the refs and Jacksonville today
I don't know if you can sum it up and better. You also have to add in mistakes. The ONLY thing that was going to let Jax stay in the game was turnovers. Bryant simply cannot fumble that ball (again). The other mistakes came from Baker and our coach. We had 3rd and inches. How do you not run a sneak there like EVERY other team in the league? To be fair, coach dialed up a play that got Kareem wide open and Baker threw one of the worst passes in the history of the world. Baker literally could have underhand tossed it to Hunt, and instead fired a bullet way behind him. I'm not even sure how it's possible.
Coach should have kicked a FG there to go up potentially 11. I'm not even sure why he went for it. I mean, I GET why, but that's really the only time I've disagreed with him all year.
I'm having a difficult time truly evaluating Baker. He had an abundance of magnificent throws today, and that needs to be said first and foremost. He was outstanding on 3rd down and lead our offense to a "puntless" afternoon. He also didn't fumble or throw a pick. In fact, I don't think Baker has thrown a pick in about a month. All of these good things must be said about him. However, Baker yet again made throws today that the most inexperienced player could've easily made.
On one, Baker missed a wide open Higgins in the end zone by about 5 feet. It wasn't close. Baker waited for his throwing lane, and then at the last second saw a defender raise his arm which caused him to let it loose high. At least, this is my opinion of what happened. When you watch it in real time, you can see that something is not quite right with the delivery. Regardless, Baker effed up yet again at the goal line and it simply CANNOT happen. We lost 4 points there and we sorely needed them at the end.
The other atrocious pass Baker made was on the aforementioned bullet to Hunt. I don't get it, I really don't. Just throw him the ball. That's all you have to do. I've seen Baker miss Hunt on that same pass 5-6 times this year and it's always the same thing. Baker tosses some rocket directly behind him and Hunt can't catch it. Why is anyone's guess, but it needs to be fixed.
We won, and ultimately that's all that matters. We didn't force a turnover, we GAVE them one, we suffered through multiple awful calls, and we had nobody on defense capable of making a play. Our tackling and coverage was simply catastrophic. Yet despite ALL of this, we won.
... we won.
Game summary...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I just hope no one drank the kool aid on this defense being worth a shit. I know we’re out some dudes today but that’s a 3rd string QB throwing to wide open dudes who are trailed by two defenders, but are still open by 5+ yards. That’s a big, big yikes.
I just hope no one drank the kool aid on this defense being worth a shit. I know we’re out some dudes today but that’s a 3rd string QB throwing to wide open dudes who are trailed by two defenders, but are still open by 5+ yards. That’s a big, big yikes.
Yes...this game highlighted the deficiencies in our back 7 defense. They could barely contain the run, but they made up for it by leaving wide open receivers a lot.
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There was some legit ref fuckery going on at the end. Some bad spots and some bad penalties. Browns by the grace of god beat the refs and Jacksonville today
There was some legit ref fuckery going on at the end. Some bad spots and some bad penalties. Browns by the grace of god beat the refs and Jacksonville today
The holding calls on Tretter were particularly jive. I actually felt like l noted a number of not called holding plays from the Jags Oline. I figured the refs were in “let ‘em play” mode.
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It's a win and we're 8-3. Entering the game, our defense was short handed and I think did a decent job, this game's victory was dependent on the offense and particularly Baker. Baker was just too inconsistent today, fortunately Chubb saved the day and also agree that the refereeing was awful. First non-losing season since 2007?
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There was some legit ref fuckery going on at the end. Some bad spots and some bad penalties. Browns by the grace of god beat the refs and Jacksonville today
The holding calls on Tretter were particularly jive. I actually felt like l noted a number of not called holding plays from the Jags Oline. I figured the refs were in “let ‘em play” mode.
The holding calls on Tretter were particularly jive. I actually felt like l noted a number of not called holding plays from the Jags Oline. I figured the refs were in “let ‘em play” mode.
I kept calling HOLDING on the jags oline, but no call. Then they call Tretter for holding? and I didn't see the freaking holding.
and when the qb ducks his head into a defender's helmet on a sack, I don't think that was a call, either.
obviously, I"m not cut out to have been a ref....
8 and 3 you BETCHA !
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It's a win and we're 8-3. Entering the game, our defense was short handed and I think did a decent job, this game's victory was dependent on the offense and particularly Baker. Baker was just too inconsistent today, fortunately Chubb saved the day and also agree that the refereeing was awful. First non-losing season since 2007?
It's a win and we're 8-3. Entering the game, our defense was short handed and I think did a decent job, this game's victory was dependent on the offense and particularly Baker. Baker was just too inconsistent today, fortunately Chubb saved the day and also agree that the refereeing was awful. First non-losing season since 2007?
19-29 258 yds. 65.5% 2 TDs -0- Ints.
If it were not for the 2-3 overthrows early you would be saying : Outstanding Job Baker.
So, I will say it: Outstanding job Baker, especially coming back from a few early setbacks on those overthrows.
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It's a win and we're 8-3. Entering the game, our defense was short handed and I think did a decent job, this game's victory was dependent on the offense and particularly Baker. Baker was just too inconsistent today, fortunately Chubb saved the day and also agree that the refereeing was awful. First non-losing season since 2007?
It's a win and we're 8-3. Entering the game, our defense was short handed and I think did a decent job, this game's victory was dependent on the offense and particularly Baker. Baker was just too inconsistent today, fortunately Chubb saved the day and also agree that the refereeing was awful. First non-losing season since 2007?
Yes Chubb saved the day...again. Yes, a non losing season.
Up to the 4th quarter, I just had the feeling that we were going to win the game. Even though we weren't doing well when we got into scoring position. And then as the 4th quarter marched on, I was getting that nagging feeling that we were going to lose. Denzel Ward and Nick Chubb have been saving the games for us. Glad Nick continued the tradition today. - And at the end of the game, just getting the first down and jumping to the ground. A tremendously smart and unselfish player. He could've ran for more yardage, but what good could have come from it? A blind-side hit causing a fumble? A player throwing a bad block while your extending the play? No chance! Because Nick Chubb does the right thing! God I love that guy.
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Dang. Losing to the Browns was apparently the final straw on firing the Jags’ GM.
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Dang. Losing to the Browns was apparently the final straw on firing the Jags’ GM.
Dang. Losing to the Browns was apparently the final straw on firing the Jags’ GM.
Seriously? Who the hell made that decision? The stupid owner? They were in TANK mode....in order to get the top 1-2 QBs next year.
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Dang. Losing to the Browns was apparently the final straw on firing the Jags’ GM.
Dang. Losing to the Browns was apparently the final straw on firing the Jags’ GM.
The Jags were too close to winning. That will not be tolerated. ?
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Really! I was like, WHAT?! That measurement wasn't a first down?! And the inset pic is what he said. I'm like, This is freakin' coo-coo!
...and that roughness call on Vernon? It was a guy making a play to pretty much win the game for his team! It didn't look overly rough at all.
Mack Wilson - on that play where the RB and his mates moved the pile all the way into the end zone, ol' Mack was right there where he could've helped stop that advance, but he chose to watch.
Mayfield is missing a ton of easy throws. We cannot blame this on the rainy, windy Cleveland weather.
Harrison Bryant fumbled another scoring drive away on us. Two this year.
Goodson made a great pass break up around the goal line for us.
Kudos to the great Nick Chubb, Hunt, Landry.
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I's be amiss if I didn't mention the great game Jarvis Landry had.
He's had a bit of a rough season after his career season last year, hopefully he's feeling healthier.
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It is simple Take out a knee but don’t hit the head
You can't hit them in the knee either. The hit zone on a qb is literally like strike zone tip of knee cap to the nipples
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Yeah- I guess the rule now is just come in and hit 'em with your chest first. Sort of hard to do.....
The broadcast's, on-call, retired ref made one comment about the play that that rang true... that Vernon dropped his arms to lead with his helmet. He did. And in the process of making the hit he made no effort to wrap or otherwise make what would be considered a normal, form tackle.
It's a tough life for any D hitting a QB these days, but Vernon did nothing to make it harder for the ref to throw that flag.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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