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    Masters said:

    Hall - We had a Hall sighting. Seeing time early, Hall showed improvement in his run stopping. He did a much better job of sealing off the outside and getting in on the action when the ball was run to his side.

    But there seemed to be many snaps where they went with 3 LB's (Wimbley, Barton, Jackson) and added another DB in the box instead of Hall. It seems like the coaching staff still doesn't have much confidence in him.

    Aloysius said:

    But there seemed to be many snaps where they went with 3 LB's (Wimbley, Barton, Jackson) and added another DB in the box instead of Hall. It seems like the coaching staff still doesn't have much confidence in him.

    Not sure if that was about confidence in Hall or more about the front and coverage they were planning.

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  • We did look better this week but ill wait until we play a team with a win last season until i will admit we turned it around from preseason game 1. If we do that against Tennessee then ill be a believer.

  • P playerjdd

    We did look better this week but ill wait until we play a team with a win last season until i will admit we turned it around from preseason game 1. If we do that against Tennessee then ill be a believer.

    @playerjdd said:

    We did look better this week but ill wait until we play a team with a win last season until i will admit we turned it around from preseason game 1. If we do that against Tennessee then ill be a believer.

    Well it is preseason games. I personally won't believe much of anything untilt he games count. After all, DET was undefeated last year in preseason and winless in the regular season.

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    Aloysius said:

    But there seemed to be many snaps where they went with 3 LB's (Wimbley, Barton, Jackson) and added another DB in the box instead of Hall. It seems like the coaching staff still doesn't have much confidence in him.

    Not sure if that was about confidence in Hall or more about the front and coverage they were planning.

    Masters said:

    Not sure if that was about confidence in Hall or more about the front and coverage they were planning.

    Could be. It just seemed like he didn't get a chance to showcase his skills, at least with the first team.

    It's funny: during the spring, many of us thought that the Browns would bring in someone like Orakpo to play the strong side, then let Wimbley and Hall compete for the other spot. Instead, Wimbley's been moved to SOLB and Hall doesn't seem to be in the running for a starting job.

    Hopefully, Bowens gets healthy soon and plays well on the weak side.

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    Masters said:

    Not sure if that was about confidence in Hall or more about the front and coverage they were planning.

    Could be. It just seemed like he didn't get a chance to showcase his skills, at least with the first team.

    It's funny: during the spring, many of us thought that the Browns would bring in someone like Orakpo to play the strong side, then let Wimbley and Hall compete for the other spot. Instead, Wimbley's been moved to SOLB and Hall doesn't seem to be in the running for a starting job.

    Hopefully, Bowens gets healthy soon and plays well on the weak side.

    Aloysius said:

    Could be. It just seemed like he didn't get a chance to showcase his skills, at least with the first team.

    It's funny: during the spring, many of us thought that the Browns would bring in someone like Orakpo to play the strong side, then let Wimbley and Hall compete for the other spot. Instead, Wimbley's been moved to SOLB and Hall doesn't seem to be in the running for a starting job.

    Hopefully, Bowens gets healthy soon and plays well on the weak side.

    He certainly hasn't gotten much of a chance to showcase his pass rushing skills.

    Hall is certainly looking like he won't be cracking the starting roster any time soon like some thought he might be.

    It would be good to see Bowens play some on the weak side. Thought I get the feeling we aren't going to see him or Rogers until the games count.

  • I'm happy to see Cribbs catching the ball. Last year he couldn't catch a cold, this year you can see a big improvement. I hope he cracks the line up at #2.

    Edwarsd, Cribbs, Furrey, MoMass and Robo is how I see the depth chart as of this preseason game.

    I still think Heiden is a better TE option then Royal, not sure why he isn't starting. He played and had a nice catch from DA, but only as the #2 TE.

  • M mario

    I'm happy to see Cribbs catching the ball. Last year he couldn't catch a cold, this year you can see a big improvement. I hope he cracks the line up at #2.

    Edwarsd, Cribbs, Furrey, MoMass and Robo is how I see the depth chart as of this preseason game.

    I still think Heiden is a better TE option then Royal, not sure why he isn't starting. He played and had a nice catch from DA, but only as the #2 TE.

    @mario said:

    I still think Heiden is a better TE option then Royal, not sure why he isn't starting. He played and had a nice catch from DA, but only as the #2 TE.

    I think for the simple reason that Royals blocking (pass and run) are better than Heidens.

  • Like to state Robaire smith shined this week... with Coleman,rogers and robaire up front...we have a good 3-4 Dl against the run.

    Also has anyone seen Bowens play yet...haven't seen him in there to my recollection. I'm on board for trading Corey Williams if Robairre is back!

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  • S Solon16

    Like to state Robaire smith shined this week... with Coleman,rogers and robaire up front...we have a good 3-4 Dl against the run.

    Also has anyone seen Bowens play yet...haven't seen him in there to my recollection. I'm on board for trading Corey Williams if Robairre is back!

    @solon16 said:

    Like to state Robaire smith shined this week... with Coleman,rogers and robaire up front...we have a good 3-4 Dl against the run.

    Also has anyone seen Bowens play yet...haven't seen him in there to my recollection. I'm on board for trading Corey Williams if Robairre is back!

    I thought so as well. Though I'll save my judgement until they play real games.

    I haven't seen Bowens on the field yet.

    I would not trade C. Williams. All it takes is one injury and he is going to be needed. With Smith on a repaired leg, I'd rather not risk counting on him for 16 games.

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  • W WPB Dawg Fan

    Good points one and all...but I would like to add a few:

    Maiava: Already showing to be a ST beast.

    Steinbach: He is getting beat more often than I have ever seen before. Maybe it is the weight change and adjusting to moving with it, but he is not doing as well as I expected.

    Secondary: Only 2 completions for over 10 yards in the first half (12, 20). Nothing over the top. Guys were all over the receivers all night long.

    DL/OLB: While they didn't dominate, they also didn't have Rogers in there. He was rested for the second week. Once he gets in there, get ready for our OLB's to start getting to the QB due to the additional inside push.

    DA: He had a good game overall, but I am still noticing that the completions were not in stride. The only one I saw in stride was MoMass and he was led into a crunching hit. The sideline pass to BE that went out for an incomplete was a gimme TD if accurate. A couple of other passes I noted the receiver turning around or stopping to make the catch. This may be just timing, or it could be DA's accuracy, only the coaches know for sure.

    Cribbs: STILL a BEAST. He can make or break this season for us with his returns...add in his play at WR and I say make sure he is happy...for a LOOONG time.

    Anyway, it was good to see something positive.

    @wpb-dawg-fan said:

    Maiava: Already showing to be a ST beast.

    I'd add Blake Costanzo who we already knew was that coming from Buffalo. Hopefully we can get our ST back to 2007 where it simply dictated entire games.

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    @solon16 said:

    Like to state Robaire smith shined this week... with Coleman,rogers and robaire up front...we have a good 3-4 Dl against the run.

    Also has anyone seen Bowens play yet...haven't seen him in there to my recollection. I'm on board for trading Corey Williams if Robairre is back!

    I thought so as well. Though I'll save my judgement until they play real games.

    I haven't seen Bowens on the field yet.

    I would not trade C. Williams. All it takes is one injury and he is going to be needed. With Smith on a repaired leg, I'd rather not risk counting on him for 16 games.

    Masters said:

    I would not trade C. Williams. All it takes is one injury and he is going to be needed.

    Could be what this is about:

    Antwan Lake gets tryout with Browns

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    Masters said:

    I would not trade C. Williams. All it takes is one injury and he is going to be needed.

    Could be what this is about:

    Antwan Lake gets tryout with Browns

    Aloysius said:

    Could be what this is about:

    Antwan Lake gets tryout with Browns

    Could be. Or could mean Leonard or another guy isn't cutting it. But interesting they are bringing in a DL this late in the game. Someone isn't cutting it.

  • @jadbf said:

    Your take on him Al?

    Don't know much about him, except that Phil Savage once tried to claim him off waivers.

  • Admittedly, I didn't see anything with Steinbach, but I have been, & continue to be, a big fan of Maiava's. On his 1st ST tackle Saturday, he didn't bite on the "jukes"...instead, he wrapped the guy up in both arms & planted him! I am convinced we got a real steal with this young man. Like Cribbs, he's a "football player". No hyped up superstar, just the kind of blue collar worker who helps a team win.

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST

  • I don't understand why no one thinks Maiava could start on the defense, I think he'll end up being the starter at ILB alongside D'Qwell once Barton is no longer on the team or is retired(and Barton was great last season).

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  • B beefjerky

    I don't understand why no one thinks Maiava could start on the defense, I think he'll end up being the starter at ILB alongside D'Qwell once Barton is no longer on the team or is retired(and Barton was great last season).

    @beefjerky said:

    I don't understand why no one thinks Maiava could start on the defense, I think he'll end up being the starter at ILB alongside D'Qwell once Barton is no longer on the team or is retired(and Barton was great last season).

    I don't think either one can play the SILB spot adequately enough. That's a brutal position needing a brutish player. I just can't see either one smashing their face into 320+ pound OGs for 40+ plays per game.

    -Al

  • B beefjerky

    I don't understand why no one thinks Maiava could start on the defense, I think he'll end up being the starter at ILB alongside D'Qwell once Barton is no longer on the team or is retired(and Barton was great last season).

    @beefjerky said:

    I don't understand why no one thinks Maiava could start on the defense, I think he'll end up being the starter at ILB alongside D'Qwell once Barton is no longer on the team or is retired(and Barton was great last season).

    Beef,

    I think you're on the right track with this kid. I think the plan with him is to let him crack in excelling on special teams and eventually get him some occasional reps on D. I think we might see him in the mix by mid-season. As you said, Barton isn't getting any younger and guys can get dinged up. I'm sure Shaun Rogers will do a good job of keeping bodies off our ILBers. Rubin looks much improved holding his ground and playing with better leverage/base than last year IMO. That'll work well for our ILBers too.

    - Tom F.

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
  • S Solon16

    Like to state Robaire smith shined this week... with Coleman,rogers and robaire up front...we have a good 3-4 Dl against the run.

    Also has anyone seen Bowens play yet...haven't seen him in there to my recollection. I'm on board for trading Corey Williams if Robairre is back!

    @solon16 said:

    Like to state Robaire smith shined this week... with Coleman,rogers and robaire up front...we have a good 3-4 Dl against the run.

    Also has anyone seen Bowens play yet...haven't seen him in there to my recollection. I'm on board for trading Corey Williams if Robairre is back!

    So how do you trade a guy who has played lousy and been hurt. What do you really think we can get? ..seriously.. nothing of value.. Let's hope he is healthy, has another year under his belt in the 3-4 and improves.. he has way more value on the roster than traded for what??? 6th round pick.. I mean has he played well enough to generate a higher trade value.?? It's stupid to think anyone wants to give us anything of value.. better off keeping him .

  • S Sez.EJ

    @solon16 said:

    Like to state Robaire smith shined this week... with Coleman,rogers and robaire up front...we have a good 3-4 Dl against the run.

    Also has anyone seen Bowens play yet...haven't seen him in there to my recollection. I'm on board for trading Corey Williams if Robairre is back!

    So how do you trade a guy who has played lousy and been hurt. What do you really think we can get? ..seriously.. nothing of value.. Let's hope he is healthy, has another year under his belt in the 3-4 and improves.. he has way more value on the roster than traded for what??? 6th round pick.. I mean has he played well enough to generate a higher trade value.?? It's stupid to think anyone wants to give us anything of value.. better off keeping him .

    @sez.ej said:

    So how do you trade a guy who has played lousy and been hurt. What do you really think we can get? ..seriously.. nothing of value.. Let's hope he is healthy, has another year under his belt in the 3-4 and improves.. he has way more value on the roster than traded for what??? 6th round pick.. I mean has he played well enough to generate a higher trade value.?? It's stupid to think anyone wants to give us anything of value.. better off keeping him .

    Because they simply don't want him. You don't keep somebody you don't want. They have been showcasing him all Augest.

  • R RestinPeace

    @sez.ej said:

    So how do you trade a guy who has played lousy and been hurt. What do you really think we can get? ..seriously.. nothing of value.. Let's hope he is healthy, has another year under his belt in the 3-4 and improves.. he has way more value on the roster than traded for what??? 6th round pick.. I mean has he played well enough to generate a higher trade value.?? It's stupid to think anyone wants to give us anything of value.. better off keeping him .

    Because they simply don't want him. You don't keep somebody you don't want. They have been showcasing him all Augest.

    @restinpeace said:

    Because they simply don't want him. You don't keep somebody you don't want. They have been showcasing him all Augest.

    SHOWCASE????? He has 2 tackles and 2 assists in 2 games...I have not heard anything about other teams being interested in him. His agent has said nothing about the browns trying to trade him.. I don't see it.

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