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  • @sdbacker80 said:

    It is simple Take out a knee but don’t hit the head 

    You can't hit them in the knee either. The hit zone on a qb is literally like strike zone tip of knee cap to the nipples

    @bjh2130 said:

    You can't hit them in the knee either. The hit zone on a qb is literally like strike zone tip of knee cap to the nipples

    Yeah- I guess the rule now is just come in and hit 'em with your chest first. Sort of hard to do..... 

  • @bjh2130 said:

    You can't hit them in the knee either. The hit zone on a qb is literally like strike zone tip of knee cap to the nipples

    Yeah- I guess the rule now is just come in and hit 'em with your chest first. Sort of hard to do..... 

    @hoorta said:

    Yeah- I guess the rule now is just come in and hit 'em with your chest first. Sort of hard to do..... 

    The broadcast's, on-call, retired ref made one comment about the play that that rang true... that Vernon dropped his arms to lead with his helmet. He did. And in the process of making the hit he made no effort to wrap or otherwise make what would be considered a normal, form tackle.

    It's a tough life for any D hitting a QB these days, but Vernon did nothing to make it harder for the ref to throw that flag.

  • PFF grades for Jags game...

    Defense:

    • DL - Vernon: 82.6.; Malveaux: 62.8; Richardson: 61.0; Clayborn: 57.6; Ogunjobi: 48.7; Taylor: 48.4; Elliott: 39.8.
    • LBs - Smith: 63.1;Lee: 60.0; Wilson: 59.6; Goodson: 58.0; Phillips: 41.4.
    • CBs - Mitchell: 62.0; Stewart: 58.0; Thomas: 50.2; Johnson: 48.7; Jackson: 41.1.
    • Ss - Sendejo: 71.1; Harrison: 61.3; Joseph: 50.4.

    Offense: Blacked out by cleveland.com...

  • PFF grades for Jags game...

    Defense:

    • DL - Vernon: 82.6.; Malveaux: 62.8; Richardson: 61.0; Clayborn: 57.6; Ogunjobi: 48.7; Taylor: 48.4; Elliott: 39.8.
    • LBs - Smith: 63.1;Lee: 60.0; Wilson: 59.6; Goodson: 58.0; Phillips: 41.4.
    • CBs - Mitchell: 62.0; Stewart: 58.0; Thomas: 50.2; Johnson: 48.7; Jackson: 41.1.
    • Ss - Sendejo: 71.1; Harrison: 61.3; Joseph: 50.4.

    Offense: Blacked out by cleveland.com...

    @tour2ma said:

    PFF grades for Jags game...

    Defense:

    • DL - Vernon: 82.6.; Malveaux: 62.8; Richardson: 61.0; Clayborn: 57.6; Ogunjobi: 48.7; Taylor: 48.4; Elliott: 39.8.
    • LBs - Smith: 63.1;Lee: 60.0; Wilson: 59.6; Goodson: 58.0; Phillips: 41.4.
    • CBs - Mitchell: 62.0; Stewart: 58.0; Thomas: 50.2; Johnson: 48.7; Jackson: 41.1.
    • Ss - Sendejo: 71.1; Harrison: 61.3; Joseph: 50.4.

    Offense: Blacked out by cleveland.com...

    Makes you wonder if we squared off against Mahomes yesterday 

    Hats off to Sendejo.  He was in horrible position on that bat away but made a great play and another in the back of the end zone.

  • Dang. Losing to the Browns was apparently the final straw on firing the Jags’ GM. 

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Dang. Losing to the Browns was apparently the final straw on firing the Jags’ GM. 

    Classic scapegoat if I've ever seen one. 

  • @hoorta said:

    Yeah- I guess the rule now is just come in and hit 'em with your chest first. Sort of hard to do..... 

    The broadcast's, on-call, retired ref made one comment about the play that that rang true... that Vernon dropped his arms to lead with his helmet. He did. And in the process of making the hit he made no effort to wrap or otherwise make what would be considered a normal, form tackle.

    It's a tough life for any D hitting a QB these days, but Vernon did nothing to make it harder for the ref to throw that flag.

    @tour2ma said:

    The broadcast's, on-call, retired ref made one comment about the play that that rang true... that Vernon dropped his arms to lead with his helmet. He did. And in the process of making the hit he made no effort to wrap or otherwise make what would be considered a normal, form tackle.

    It's a tough life for any D hitting a QB these days, but Vernon did nothing to make it harder for the ref to throw that flag.

    I recall the announcer saying that. Saying that he should have made a proper tackle by wrapping him up.

    Problem is, and I've seen Myles get called on this at least twice, is when you properly wrap up a QB and tackle him, you can still get nailed with a 15 yard penalty because you landed on him with too much force.

    Seriously, I have no idea how you are supposed to sack a QB now. 

  • @mddawg said:

    It's a win and we're 8-3. Entering the game, our defense was short handed and I think did a decent job, this game's victory was dependent on the offense and particularly Baker. Baker was just too inconsistent today, fortunately Chubb saved the day and also agree that the refereeing was awful. First non-losing season since 2007?

    Yes Chubb saved the day...again.  Yes, a non losing season.  

    Up to the 4th quarter, I just had the feeling that we were going to win the game.  Even though we weren't doing well when we got into scoring position.  And then as the 4th quarter marched on, I was getting that nagging feeling that we were going to lose.  Denzel Ward and Nick Chubb have been saving the games for us.  Glad Nick continued the tradition today.  -  And at the end of the game, just getting the first down and jumping to the ground.  A tremendously smart and unselfish player.  He could've ran for more yardage, but what good could have come from it?  A blind-side hit causing a fumble?  A player throwing a bad block while your extending the play?  No chance!  Because Nick Chubb does the right thing!  God I love that guy.

    @orion said:

    Yes Chubb saved the day...again.  Yes, a non losing season.  

    Up to the 4th quarter, I just had the feeling that we were going to win the game.  Even though we weren't doing well when we got into scoring position.  And then as the 4th quarter marched on, I was getting that nagging feeling that we were going to lose.  Denzel Ward and Nick Chubb have been saving the games for us.  Glad Nick continued the tradition today.  -  And at the end of the game, just getting the first down and jumping to the ground.  A tremendously smart and unselfish player.  He could've ran for more yardage, but what good could have come from it?  A blind-side hit causing a fumble?  A player throwing a bad block while your extending the play?  No chance!  Because Nick Chubb does the right thing!  God I love that guy.

    you know something I never got that losing feeling

  • @orion said:

    Yes Chubb saved the day...again.  Yes, a non losing season.  

    Up to the 4th quarter, I just had the feeling that we were going to win the game.  Even though we weren't doing well when we got into scoring position.  And then as the 4th quarter marched on, I was getting that nagging feeling that we were going to lose.  Denzel Ward and Nick Chubb have been saving the games for us.  Glad Nick continued the tradition today.  -  And at the end of the game, just getting the first down and jumping to the ground.  A tremendously smart and unselfish player.  He could've ran for more yardage, but what good could have come from it?  A blind-side hit causing a fumble?  A player throwing a bad block while your extending the play?  No chance!  Because Nick Chubb does the right thing!  God I love that guy.

    you know something I never got that losing feeling

    @atom said:

    you know something I never got that losing  loving feeling

    FIFY

  • @atom said:

    you know something I never got that losing  loving feeling

    FIFY

    @the-gipper said:

    FIFY

    kinda figured someone would do this

  • Miracle Njoku wasn't flagged for that.

    Also did not realize Lamm had any snaps... looks like he spelled Wills on that play.