Is time bringing OBJ question more into focus?
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I think it is a horseshit assumption based on a purely prejudicial attitude.
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It's nonsense. The timing is all about the system being implemented, the coaches developing what works
and what doesn't, finding out their identity, and after having a new coaching staff, new systems, and covid little playing
time to get ready for the season, the op article author simply makes an ASSumption that doesn't fit. OBJ was a field stretcher bigtime, this offense would really rock in the playoffs if they got him back. just my opinion.
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How did Mayfield look his rookie season (without OBJ) and since OBJ suffered a season-ending injury this year?
How did Mayfield look his second season (with OBJ) and this season before OBJ suffered a season-ending injury?
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I thought the article was a good read. The author was almost apologetic about it all, like a sensitive break up. “You know, you’re a great girl. You’re just not the right girl for me.”
The way l see it, there’s a pecking order on who the most important playmakers are on the team outside of the QB. There’s Chubb, Landry, and Hunt, in that order. After that, probably Hooper? Then maybe OBJ?
When you’re basically the 5th most important playmaker on offense and it comes time to make difficult financial decisions the cost to usefulness ratio has to be considered.
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I thought the article was a good read. The author was almost apologetic about it all, like a sensitive break up. “You know, you’re a great girl. You’re just not the right girl for me.”
The way l see it, there’s a pecking order on who the most important playmakers are on the team outside of the QB. There’s Chubb, Landry, and Hunt, in that order. After that, probably Hooper? Then maybe OBJ?
When you’re basically the 5th most important playmaker on offense and it comes time to make difficult financial decisions the cost to usefulness ratio has to be considered.
I thought the article was a good read. The author was almost apologetic about it all, like a sensitive break up. “You know, you’re a great girl. You’re just not the right girl for me.”
The way l see it, there’s a pecking order on who the most important playmakers are on the team outside of the QB. There’s Chubb, Landry, and Hunt, in that order. After that, probably Hooper? Then maybe OBJ?
When you’re basically the 5th most important playmaker on offense and it comes time to make difficult financial decisions the cost to usefulness ratio has to be considered.
Well, I think they have wholly underused Hooper and maybe all their TEs....especially since OBJ went down.
I would kind of like to see a "spread sheet", i.e. how they have distributed their passes....spread them out that is, between each position, WRs, TEs, RBs.
I wonder if anyone has a link or something to that.
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I thought the article was a good read. The author was almost apologetic about it all, like a sensitive break up. “You know, you’re a great girl. You’re just not the right girl for me.”
The way l see it, there’s a pecking order on who the most important playmakers are on the team outside of the QB. There’s Chubb, Landry, and Hunt, in that order. After that, probably Hooper? Then maybe OBJ?
When you’re basically the 5th most important playmaker on offense and it comes time to make difficult financial decisions the cost to usefulness ratio has to be considered.
Well, I think they have wholly underused Hooper and maybe all their TEs....especially since OBJ went down.
I would kind of like to see a "spread sheet", i.e. how they have distributed their passes....spread them out that is, between each position, WRs, TEs, RBs.
I wonder if anyone has a link or something to that.
Well, I think they have wholly underused Hooper and maybe all their TEs....especially since OBJ went down.
I would kind of like to see a "spread sheet", i.e. how they have distributed their passes....spread them out that is, between each position, WRs, TEs, RBs.
I wonder if anyone has a link or something to that.
That's a very big surprise from this season. I really expected this to be an offense that uses their TEs a lot. Most games, they are an afterthought.
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I think it is a horseshit assumption based on a purely prejudicial attitude.
I think it is a horseshit assumption based on a purely prejudicial attitude.
5-1 without OBJ in the line up. Don't choke too hard. I predicted it all.
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WR is the candy on top of any offense. That is, if the offense is legit. Think of all the playoff games Megatron and Stafford won.. [Fun fact: 0-2] The offense functions without the WR, but it only gets to the next level with the WR.
49ers were a playoff team without Rice.. how often do you think they complained about his salary?
This is a tired discussion, which means we'll repeat it every week until only angry people reply.
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How did Mayfield look his rookie season (without OBJ) and since OBJ suffered a season-ending injury this year?
How did Mayfield look his second season (with OBJ) and this season before OBJ suffered a season-ending injury?
How did Mayfield look his rookie season (without OBJ) and since OBJ suffered a season-ending injury this year?
How did Mayfield look his second season (with OBJ) and this season before OBJ suffered a season-ending injury?
5-1 since OBJ went down. It's that simple.
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I think it is a horseshit assumption based on a purely prejudicial attitude.
5-1 without OBJ in the line up. Don't choke too hard. I predicted it all.
5-1 without OBJ in the line up. Don't choke too hard. I predicted it all.
Well, when it comes to OBJ, you are just a hate filled K-hole. So you have -0- credibility on this subject. And there is NO evidence that the Browns record would not have been the same...or better with OBJ in there. (he was hurt for the Raiders game where he conceivably could have made a difference).
Furthermore, I also think that the success of the Browns as the season has gone along they, partiularly Baker are really getting more with it with Stefanski's system....and OBJ's presence would have enhanced that even more.
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How did Mayfield look his rookie season (without OBJ) and since OBJ suffered a season-ending injury this year?
How did Mayfield look his second season (with OBJ) and this season before OBJ suffered a season-ending injury?
5-1 since OBJ went down. It's that simple.
5-1 since OBJ went down. It's that simple.
And they may have been 6-0 with him...lost that fairly close game vs. Raiders. He could have made the difference. Its that simple. Though it really isn't. Like I said, its the whole familiarity and implementation of the offensive and defensive systems that probably made the difference.
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Well, I think they have wholly underused Hooper and maybe all their TEs....especially since OBJ went down.
I would kind of like to see a "spread sheet", i.e. how they have distributed their passes....spread them out that is, between each position, WRs, TEs, RBs.
I wonder if anyone has a link or something to that.
That's a very big surprise from this season. I really expected this to be an offense that uses their TEs a lot. Most games, they are an afterthought.
That's a very big surprise from this season. I really expected this to be an offense that uses their TEs a lot. Most games, they are an afterthought.
If we don't get Florida's TE Pitts in 2021, then may I send another in 2022, now Soph Aggie TE Jalen Wydermeyer? First team Freshman AA 2019 and go-to receiver this year. Very wide and high catch radius. Very similar to Mike Evans with same height and speed, but a better blocker. I think he is our best pro prospect currently on the team. Take a look at a few highlights from last year. Notice those super-long arms on top of a 6'5" frame. He and Pitts are the two best this year I think, but he has another year before he can go pro.
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Well, I think they have wholly underused Hooper and maybe all their TEs....especially since OBJ went down.
I would kind of like to see a "spread sheet", i.e. how they have distributed their passes....spread them out that is, between each position, WRs, TEs, RBs.
I wonder if anyone has a link or something to that.
That's a very big surprise from this season. I really expected this to be an offense that uses their TEs a lot. Most games, they are an afterthought.
That's a very big surprise from this season. I really expected this to be an offense that uses their TEs a lot. Most games, they are an afterthought.
I wouldn't say they have been underused. They've been extensively done work on blocking on run plays, to later make some big catches on certain plays. What you can't expect is to have the ball going 8/10 times to the TEs... Currently probably it's 3/10 and I think it's OK.
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I think it is a horseshit assumption based on a purely prejudicial attitude.
5-1 without OBJ in the line up. Don't choke too hard. I predicted it all.
5-1 without OBJ in the line up. Don't choke too hard. I predicted it all.
No, you didn't predict it all. When you make a statement that will eventually be true, that is not a correct prediction.
First, you said he would be gone after during his 1st year.
Next, he would be gone in the off-season.
Then would be gone during this season.
Yes, at SOME POINT you will be correct. Whether that is today, end of this year, or in 10 years.
For whatever reason you dislike him. It appears to go beyond him being a good/bad fit for the Browns.
But go ahead and pat yourself on the back, you made a prediction that has ZERO chance of being wrong....
I'll even go one further for you, his is MY MAJOR PREDICTION to rival Icecube, it will snow in Cleveland.
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It's nonsense. The timing is all about the system being implemented, the coaches developing what works
and what doesn't, finding out their identity, and after having a new coaching staff, new systems, and covid little playing
time to get ready for the season, the op article author simply makes an ASSumption that doesn't fit. OBJ was a field stretcher bigtime, this offense would really rock in the playoffs if they got him back. just my opinion.
It's nonsense. The timing is all about the system being implemented, the coaches developing what works
and what doesn't, finding out their identity, and after having a new coaching staff, new systems, and covid little playing
Other than not knowing who "covid little" is, I agree...
We had no camp. We had OBJ for 6 games and change. We've been without him for 5 and change. Through it all Stef has been installing his Offense and coaching Baker up.
I hope to hell we looked better in Week 12 than we were in week 6.
5-1 since OBJ went down. It's that simple.
Overly simplistic horseshit...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
It's nonsense. The timing is all about the system being implemented, the coaches developing what works
and what doesn't, finding out their identity, and after having a new coaching staff, new systems, and covid little playing
Other than not knowing who "covid little" is, I agree...
We had no camp. We had OBJ for 6 games and change. We've been without him for 5 and change. Through it all Stef has been installing his Offense and coaching Baker up.
I hope to hell we looked better in Week 12 than we were in week 6.
5-1 since OBJ went down. It's that simple.
Overly simplistic horseshit...
Other than not knowing who "covid little" is, I agree...
We had no camp. We had OBJ for 6 games and change. We've been without him for 5 and change. Through it all Stef has been installing his Offense and coaching Baker up.
lol ...my bad
"covid - little practice time/few exhibition games to iron it all out as much as possible.
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Pretty sure I knew what you meant, but I can't let that stand in the way of fun...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I think it is a horseshit assumption based on a purely prejudicial attitude.
5-1 without OBJ in the line up. Don't choke too hard. I predicted it all.
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So here's Baker Mayfield's career stats, with OBJ and without.
With OBJ:
420 com, 704 att, 60% com, 4922 yards, 7.0 yds/att, 32 td, 27 int
Without OBJ:
412 com, 643 att, 64% com, 5072 yards, 7,9 yds/att, 38 td, 15 int
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