The tribe
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Who even gives a shit at this point? The whole world is moving to blandly corporate bullshit with no identity. Why should this be any different. They should just name the team after the sponsors at this point. I'm sure the Cleveland progressives would earn the undying love of all.
They sort of do that already in the Nippon League in Japan.
They sort of do that already in the Nippon League in Japan.
Yeah but they get great mascots
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Yeah but they get great mascots
Nice deflection.
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I guess the premise of Major League has become more of a reality or at least a possible reality. Cleveland is a small Market and the owners could probably make more money by selling the team or moving the team and what better way to alienate the handful of remaining fans?
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Yeah but they get great mascots
Nice deflection.
Nice deflection.
Aaawweeee. You're trying to be a little copycat.
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If this kills baseball, then great. Win win
Baseball is way better then the NBA. That mess is unwatchable
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I guess the premise of Major League has become more of a reality or at least a possible reality. Cleveland is a small Market and the owners could probably make more money by selling the team or moving the team and what better way to alienate the handful of remaining fans?
WSS
I guess the premise of Major League has become more of a reality or at least a possible reality. Cleveland is a small Market and the owners could probably make more money by selling the team or moving the team and what better way to alienate the handful of remaining fans?
WSS
I looked up Paul Dolan’s worth and he, and his family are the 4th highest net worth owners in MLB. So if he wants to make more money, he needs to spend more money on better players
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I guess the premise of Major League has become more of a reality or at least a possible reality. Cleveland is a small Market and the owners could probably make more money by selling the team or moving the team and what better way to alienate the handful of remaining fans?
WSS
I looked up Paul Dolan’s worth and he, and his family are the 4th highest net worth owners in MLB. So if he wants to make more money, he needs to spend more money on better players
I looked up Paul Dolan’s worth and he, and his family are the 4th highest net worth owners in MLB. So if he wants to make more money, he needs to spend more money on better players
Sure, who knows? Dick Jacobs could have done the same thing I suppose. Would another relief pitcher have pushed the tribe over the top? Who knows. But Jacobs did brag about his bottom line while Wayne huizenga lost a stack of cash. Nobody remembers that today do they? But he's got the pennant on his wall.
I just can't figure out any other logical reason they would make this switch. I don't know who gives a shit? Except a handful of white liberals. Maybe you know who...
WSS
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I looked up Paul Dolan’s worth and he, and his family are the 4th highest net worth owners in MLB. So if he wants to make more money, he needs to spend more money on better players
Sure, who knows? Dick Jacobs could have done the same thing I suppose. Would another relief pitcher have pushed the tribe over the top? Who knows. But Jacobs did brag about his bottom line while Wayne huizenga lost a stack of cash. Nobody remembers that today do they? But he's got the pennant on his wall.
I just can't figure out any other logical reason they would make this switch. I don't know who gives a shit? Except a handful of white liberals. Maybe you know who...
WSS
Sure, who knows? Dick Jacobs could have done the same thing I suppose. Would another relief pitcher have pushed the tribe over the top? Who knows. But Jacobs did brag about his bottom line while Wayne huizenga lost a stack of cash. Nobody remembers that today do they? But he's got the pennant on his wall.
I just can't figure out any other logical reason they would make this switch. I don't know who gives a shit? Except a handful of white liberals. Maybe you know who...
WSS
I don’t get it either. The name Indians doesn’t seem any worse then Chiefs or Braves
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I've only seen a couple of morons on Facebook screaming about racism and bigots and how the name should have been changed decades ago. We probably don't have any of those people here. Hopefully... But I'm just wondering among that group how many are up for packing their shit and getting off tribal land which was, just about everything. I'm guessing somewhere between zero and none.
WSS
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I've only seen a couple of morons on Facebook screaming about racism and bigots and how the name should have been changed decades ago. We probably don't have any of those people here. Hopefully... But I'm just wondering among that group how many are up for packing their shit and getting off tribal land which was, just about everything. I'm guessing somewhere between zero and none.
WSS
I've only seen a couple of morons on Facebook screaming about racism and bigots and how the name should have been changed decades ago. We probably don't have any of those people here. Hopefully... But I'm just wondering among that group how many are up for packing their shit and getting off tribal land which was, just about everything. I'm guessing somewhere between zero and none.
WSS
You can think a name is disrespectful and that it should be changed without giving up everything you own to indigenous people.
Again, not everything exists in an extreme.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I've only seen a couple of morons on Facebook screaming about racism and bigots and how the name should have been changed decades ago. We probably don't have any of those people here. Hopefully... But I'm just wondering among that group how many are up for packing their shit and getting off tribal land which was, just about everything. I'm guessing somewhere between zero and none.
WSS
You can think a name is disrespectful and that it should be changed without giving up everything you own to indigenous people.
Again, not everything exists in an extreme.
You can think a name is disrespectful and that it should be changed without giving up everything you own to indigenous people.
Again, not everything exists in an extreme.
So changing the name absolves the past actions of pillage, rape, death and revocation?
In a sense, I'm with WSS on this. It's a cosmetic move at best that does nothing to actually atone for past sins. It's a "feel good" gesture at best.
You can commit atrocities, but don't dare insult someone. That's akin to breaking into a home and stealing everything from a person, but so long as I bake them a cake then it's all good.
No, things don't have to exist in extremes. But this is such a half measure that it should be thought of as insult in an of itself.
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I've only seen a couple of morons on Facebook screaming about racism and bigots and how the name should have been changed decades ago. We probably don't have any of those people here. Hopefully... But I'm just wondering among that group how many are up for packing their shit and getting off tribal land which was, just about everything. I'm guessing somewhere between zero and none.
WSS
You can think a name is disrespectful and that it should be changed without giving up everything you own to indigenous people.
Again, not everything exists in an extreme.
You can think a name is disrespectful and that it should be changed without giving up everything you own to indigenous people.
Again, not everything exists in an extreme.
Sure you can Woody. Especially if you just want to be a grandstanding hypocrite. Otherwise you could put your money where your mouth is. Sorry Chief we're keeping your land but we won't ever mention your name in public again. You can thank me later.
WSS
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You can think a name is disrespectful and that it should be changed without giving up everything you own to indigenous people.
Again, not everything exists in an extreme.
So changing the name absolves the past actions of pillage, rape, death and revocation?
In a sense, I'm with WSS on this. It's a cosmetic move at best that does nothing to actually atone for past sins. It's a "feel good" gesture at best.
You can commit atrocities, but don't dare insult someone. That's akin to breaking into a home and stealing everything from a person, but so long as I bake them a cake then it's all good.
No, things don't have to exist in extremes. But this is such a half measure that it should be thought of as insult in an of itself.
So changing the name absolves the past actions of pillage, rape, death and revocation?
In a sense, I'm with WSS on this. It's a cosmetic move at best that does nothing to actually atone for past sins. It's a "feel good" gesture at best.
You can commit atrocities, but don't dare insult someone. That's akin to breaking into a home and stealing everything from a person, but so long as I bake them a cake then it's all good.
No, things don't have to exist in extremes. But this is such a half measure that it should be thought of as insult in an of itself.
No one said it absolves anyone of anything. The idea of it absolving anything is in itself extreme.
Who is currently, in the US, committing atrocities?
This one move doesn't have to solve anything. But it can still be a good step to take. If we had a team called the blackfaces I would still say we should change the name even though it wouldn't erase racism.
You can make an incremental move even if it doesn't solve or absolve everything
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So changing the name absolves the past actions of pillage, rape, death and revocation?
In a sense, I'm with WSS on this. It's a cosmetic move at best that does nothing to actually atone for past sins. It's a "feel good" gesture at best.
You can commit atrocities, but don't dare insult someone. That's akin to breaking into a home and stealing everything from a person, but so long as I bake them a cake then it's all good.
No, things don't have to exist in extremes. But this is such a half measure that it should be thought of as insult in an of itself.
No one said it absolves anyone of anything. The idea of it absolving anything is in itself extreme.
Who is currently, in the US, committing atrocities?
This one move doesn't have to solve anything. But it can still be a good step to take. If we had a team called the blackfaces I would still say we should change the name even though it wouldn't erase racism.
You can make an incremental move even if it doesn't solve or absolve everything
No one said it absolves anyone of anything. The idea of it absolving anything is in itself extreme.
Who is currently, in the US, committing atrocities?
This one move doesn't have to solve anything. But it can still be a good step to take. If we had a team called the blackfaces I would still say we should change the name even though it wouldn't erase racism.
You can make an incremental move even if it doesn't solve or absolve everything
The issue is the "incremental" move being the only move. And I would hardly equate the word Indians with the word Blackfaces.
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No one said it absolves anyone of anything. The idea of it absolving anything is in itself extreme.
Who is currently, in the US, committing atrocities?
This one move doesn't have to solve anything. But it can still be a good step to take. If we had a team called the blackfaces I would still say we should change the name even though it wouldn't erase racism.
You can make an incremental move even if it doesn't solve or absolve everything
The issue is the "incremental" move being the only move. And I would hardly equate the word Indians with the word Blackfaces.
The issue is the "incremental" move being the only move. And I would hardly equate the word Indians with the word Blackfaces.
Which we have just fairly recently decided was a mortal sin. I sincerely doubt Al Jolson ever mentt to offend anyone. Any more that I think the producers of The Dukes of Hazzard intended that car to be a monument to slavery. Or the Frito Bandito or Uncle Ben or Aunt Jemima or Sohi.
In other news Peta members riot in protest of Toucan Sam the Trix rabbit and Tony the Tiger.
WSS
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No one said it absolves anyone of anything. The idea of it absolving anything is in itself extreme.
Who is currently, in the US, committing atrocities?
This one move doesn't have to solve anything. But it can still be a good step to take. If we had a team called the blackfaces I would still say we should change the name even though it wouldn't erase racism.
You can make an incremental move even if it doesn't solve or absolve everything
The issue is the "incremental" move being the only move. And I would hardly equate the word Indians with the word Blackfaces.
The issue is the "incremental" move being the only move. And I would hardly equate the word Indians with the word Blackfaces.
Something beats nothing. That's what I'm getting at.
An action that only resolves 10% of an issue isn't a worthless action.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
something beats nothing to activists who want validated emotionally.
If they don't get emotionally validated, they squawk, get enraged, and try to
annoy everyone else who isn't a scum bucket birdbrain enthusiast.
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