2021 'Who are you watching?' NFL prospect thread.
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Late round flyer on LB Justin Hilliard from OSU -- he's a 5-star recruit who deserves more national pub for athleticism at his size [6'1 235#] than he'll get. Talented vs both pass and run. Playing 6th college year on the elusive medical redshirt.. but he's healthy now and his talent is far above where he'll be drafted.
Late round flyer on LB Justin Hilliard from OSU -- he's a 5-star recruit who deserves more national pub for athleticism at his size [6'1 235#] than he'll get. Talented vs both pass and run. Playing 6th college year on the elusive medical redshirt.. but he's healthy now and his talent is far above where he'll be drafted.
That was an impressive interception he had in the endzone vs Northwestern. Showed off his athleticism
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Are you taking requests??? if you are...
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah LB Notre DameChazz Surratt LB UNC
Jaylen Twyman DT Pitt
I'll get around to them eventually.
Late round flyer on Hilliard from OSU -- he's a 5-star recruit who deserves more national pub for athleticism at his size than he'll get
Hilliard is an interesting one. Mostly because, as you said, his athletic ability. If there's one late round player from tOSU I was intending to take a longer look at, it's going to be Haskell Garrett.
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He’s the kind of 3-4 OLB that the Steelers will plug in and he will kill us for a decade. Relentless pass rush type that also has the athletic ability to drop in coverage too.
I don’t know where he fits in our scheme. I followed him last year and he was just learning the position- I think he came to UNC as a QB
There is, physically speaking, literally nothing about this kid that immediately would indicate that. He's 6'1ish 220. That isn't 3pt edge rusher size barring some spot duty.
You line him up on the edge routinely and I'm going to scheme his way because he doesn't have the size and length to hold the point. He isn't TJ and he sure as hell ain't Dupree. He's not even Alex Highsmith who, if you look back, I had some praise for on this board and the Steelers took about where I said he'd fall.
Just skimming through the Syracuse and BC games...? Will backer. See, pursue, tackle and track. The Syracuse game looks like it's the 1st of the season and his eyes are routinely caught starring into the backfield action and not on assignment.
If this kid is being pimped as a high day 2 pick, then either this tape goes into warp speed in the next few games or he's media hype. Then again, this plays into the conversation I had with Gip before I sent him to the ignore list - football minds that don't get paid for clicks won't have their due diligence filter down to the media for a few more weeks at the earliest.
If this kid is being pimped as a high day 2 pick, then either this tape goes into warp speed in the next few games or he's media hype. Then again, this plays into the conversation I had with Gip before I sent him to the ignore list - football minds that don't get paid for clicks won't have their due diligence filter down to the media for a few more weeks at the earliest.
Well, now you are on my list of most notorious Cowards. Robert Ford, the Captain of the Costa Concordia.
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I've seen him listed as 6'3" 230 Lbs and as 6'2" 225 lbs. Until we see the Combine we would be just guessing.
6'1 5/8 220. Just took 3 different media listings and averaged the numbers out.
Chazz Surratt is 6’2’’ 6’3’’ depending on the source. He’s got the steeleresque pass rush motor.
As you pointed out seems a little rough around the edges I believe he spent his first year at QB...it is no wonder. Seems like a high ceiling guy when he learns the nuances of the position. He’s been highly productive this year top 10 tackler in the ACC
His brother is pretty good too
So far the UNC defense plays a lot of under/odd fronts and do a damn fine job clogging interior gaps. In short, he's a linebacker that can move but would have to be protected because of his size. Think - Roquan Smith.
So far the UNC defense plays a lot of under/odd fronts and do a damn fine job clogging interior gaps. In short, he's a linebacker that can move but would have to be protected because of his size. Think - Roquan Smith.
Whenever you get around to watching a game or two of him, I'd be interested in your take. It's disappointing he will not play against that A&M running attack which also features a lot of TE 3rd down conversion play. I wanted to see how he performed against good OL blocking schemes.
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@the-gipper said:
You are on my list of Cowards : Robert Ford, the Captain of the Costa Concordia....and others.
Either offer proper analysis of your own or stay the fuck out of my thread with your bullshit meant to take up space and troll. The rest of us have insight to share. I'll have your posts removed if need be.
Thanks for your cooperation.
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@the-gipper said:
You are on my list of Cowards : Robert Ford, the Captain of the Costa Concordia....and others.
Either offer proper analysis of your own or stay the fuck out of my thread with your bullshit meant to take up space and troll. The rest of us have insight to share. I'll have your posts removed if need be.
Thanks for your cooperation.
Either offer proper analysis of your own or stay the fuck out of my thread with your bullshit meant to take up space and troll. The rest of us have insight to share. I'll have your posts removed if need be.
Thanks for your cooperation.
LOL! tia what are you doing up so early in the morning. 4am my time is 5 am yours. I'm retired so it doesn't matter when I'm up.??
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Either offer proper analysis of your own or stay the fuck out of my thread with your bullshit meant to take up space and troll. The rest of us have insight to share. I'll have your posts removed if need be.
Thanks for your cooperation.
LOL! tia what are you doing up so early in the morning. 4am my time is 5 am yours. I'm retired so it doesn't matter when I'm up.??
LOL! tia what are you doing up so early in the morning. 4am my time is 5 am yours. I'm retired so it doesn't matter when I'm up.??
Between covid and the holidays, I've had to get creative to avoid people during workouts. Especially those who are on vacation, because they won't be in the gym this early.
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LOL! tia what are you doing up so early in the morning. 4am my time is 5 am yours. I'm retired so it doesn't matter when I'm up.??
Between covid and the holidays, I've had to get creative to avoid people during workouts. Especially those who are on vacation, because they won't be in the gym this early.
Between covid and the holidays, I've had to get creative to avoid people during workouts. Especially those who are on vacation, because they won't be in the gym this early.
Now that I'm back in Texas where we are getting low 70s, I can ride my bicycle for an hour or two in shorts and a T-shirt in early afternoons. In Colorado I was putting on ice & snow cleats to trek the various trails in Rocky Mountain NP. My siblings and wife always worry about me doing that because I go up pretty high on the trails and at nearly 74 they are afraid I might get in trouble. I just laugh and tell them, "Hey, I made it to 73 plus so I'm living on borrowed time anyway. If God wants to take me up there I'm all in and totally at peace with it." Besides they always insist that I take a cell phone with me since 911 works up there.?
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Garrett likely won't be available in the late rounds.. he just made PFF's first team All American squad. Third team big10, first team all american.. Seems legit.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
The problem with Farley is he will be long gone by our pick.
Probably, but so hard to predict right now. Lots of time for prospects to rise or fall...
... or simply get pushed down.
There's only so many players that can be stuffed into the top 25 of a draft... somewhere between 24 and 26 is my guess.
Probably, but so hard to predict right now. Lots of time for prospects to rise or fall...
... or simply get pushed down.
There's only so many players that can be stuffed into the top 25 of a draft... somewhere between 24 and 26 is my guess.
True, but corners are a premium position, and when you are one of the top few players at that position, if not the top player, the odds of you going top 10 are better than going in the mid to late 20's
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Garrett likely won't be available in the late rounds.. he just made PFF's first team All American squad. Third team big10, first team all american.. Seems legit.
Garrett likely won't be available in the late rounds.. he just made PFF's first team All American squad. Third team big10, first team all american.. Seems legit.
Foruntately for us, PFF collegiate grades and prospect projections are about as horseshit as they come.
Curtis Weaver as a top 100 pick? Yeah, Ok.
Now that I'm back in Texas where we are getting low 70s, I can ride my bicycle for an hour or two in shorts and a T-shirt in early afternoons. In Colorado I was putting on ice & snow cleats to trek the various trails in Rocky Mountain NP. My siblings and wife always worry about me doing that because I go up pretty high on the trails and at nearly 74 they are afraid I might get in trouble. I just laugh and tell them, "Hey, I made it to 73 plus so I'm living on borrowed time anyway. If God wants to take me up there I'm all in and totally at peace with it." Besides they always insist that I take a cell phone with me since 911 works up there.?
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He died as he lived.... Stubborn as all hell.
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Garrett likely won't be available in the late rounds.. he just made PFF's first team All American squad. Third team big10, first team all american.. Seems legit.
Foruntately for us, PFF collegiate grades and prospect projections are about as horseshit as they come.
Curtis Weaver as a top 100 pick? Yeah, Ok.
Now that I'm back in Texas where we are getting low 70s, I can ride my bicycle for an hour or two in shorts and a T-shirt in early afternoons. In Colorado I was putting on ice & snow cleats to trek the various trails in Rocky Mountain NP. My siblings and wife always worry about me doing that because I go up pretty high on the trails and at nearly 74 they are afraid I might get in trouble. I just laugh and tell them, "Hey, I made it to 73 plus so I'm living on borrowed time anyway. If God wants to take me up there I'm all in and totally at peace with it." Besides they always insist that I take a cell phone with me since 911 works up there.?
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He died as he lived.... Stubborn as all hell.
dHe died as he lived.... Stubborn as all hell.
No disagreement there. I already told them if I was ready for a nursing home to just take me down to the coast and let me take sail with my little trimaran Hobie-cat and point me in the general direction of the Caribbean Isles.?️
Anchors away!??️
Or just put this on the old tombstone:
Ma loved Pa, Pa loved women
Ma caught Pa with two in swimmin'
Here lies Pa.??
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Curtis Weaver Details -- We'll see if he can contribute in the DE mix next season.
Miami picked him in the 5th, waived due to injury after his first 5 practices. Claimed by Cleveland 48h later and immediately placed on IR.
Don't forget him as well as DI Billings [a top-10 DL FA] who we signed to a 1-year but he opted out of the entire season.. so our 1-year deal is now the 2021 season.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Garrett likely won't be available in the late rounds.. he just made PFF's first team All American squad. Third team big10, first team all american.. Seems legit.
Foruntately for us, PFF collegiate grades and prospect projections are about as horseshit as they come.
Curtis Weaver as a top 100 pick? Yeah, Ok.
Now that I'm back in Texas where we are getting low 70s, I can ride my bicycle for an hour or two in shorts and a T-shirt in early afternoons. In Colorado I was putting on ice & snow cleats to trek the various trails in Rocky Mountain NP. My siblings and wife always worry about me doing that because I go up pretty high on the trails and at nearly 74 they are afraid I might get in trouble. I just laugh and tell them, "Hey, I made it to 73 plus so I'm living on borrowed time anyway. If God wants to take me up there I'm all in and totally at peace with it." Besides they always insist that I take a cell phone with me since 911 works up there.?
️?️
He died as he lived.... Stubborn as all hell.
Foruntately for us, PFF collegiate grades and prospect projections are about as horseshit as they come.
Curtis Weaver as a top 100 pick? Yeah, Ok.
He died as he lived.... Stubborn as all hell.
Id be curious to see a H. Garrett film breakdown especially this year. Granted, he had a lot of dudes around him his Soph. And JR years I thought he played well when he rotated in the lineup. This year he’s stepped up even more. I think scouts wanted to see him without an all world DE playing next to him.
He was highly recruited out of HS and didn’t redshirt I always felt he was great against the run.
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Curtis Weaver Details -- We'll see if he can contribute in the DE mix next season.
Miami picked him in the 5th, waived due to injury after his first 5 practices. Claimed by Cleveland 48h later and immediately placed on IR.
Don't forget him as well as DI Billings [a top-10 DL FA] who we signed to a 1-year but he opted out of the entire season.. so our 1-year deal is now the 2021 season.
Curtis Weaver Details -- We'll see if he can contribute in the DE mix next season.
Miami picked him in the 5th, waived due to injury after his first 5 practices. Claimed by Cleveland 48h later and immediately placed on IR.
Don't forget him as well as DI Billings [a top-10 DL FA] who we signed to a 1-year but he opted out of the entire season.. so our 1-year deal is now the 2021 season.
I'm well aware of Billings and his future importance to this team. I'm pretty sure you'll find my posts on here saying he was (secretly) my favorite signing this year.
Weaver? Not so much.
PFF and myself have some similar molds re: NFL grading and some evaluation.
PFF and myself can't be further apart at times re: their collegiate grades and how they use them for NFL projections. And some of their misses just make absolutely zero sense.
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Foruntately for us, PFF collegiate grades and prospect projections are about as horseshit as they come.
Curtis Weaver as a top 100 pick? Yeah, Ok.
He died as he lived.... Stubborn as all hell.
Id be curious to see a H. Garrett film breakdown especially this year. Granted, he had a lot of dudes around him his Soph. And JR years I thought he played well when he rotated in the lineup. This year he’s stepped up even more. I think scouts wanted to see him without an all world DE playing next to him.
He was highly recruited out of HS and didn’t redshirt I always felt he was great against the run.
Id be curious to see a H. Garrett film breakdown especially this year. Granted, he had a lot of dudes around him his Soph. And JR years I thought he played well when he rotated in the lineup. This year he’s stepped up even more. I think scouts wanted to see him without an all world DE playing next to him.
He was highly recruited out of HS and didn’t redshirt I always felt he was great against the run.
When I've had time to watch closely this season (not often) he's played alright enough. But for a 2i/3tech he, along with the rest of the Buckeyes D-line, have struggled to get off blocks all season.
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Here is one we could probably sign as a UDFA. He was the leading LB on the A&M team (A&M ILB Buddy Johnson was just named Texas College Defensive POTY), but opted out of this COVID season. Consequently no one really knows about him. But he and OSU's Browning were the two best LBs in Texas HS football, both 5* rated players. I saw him play at Plano East and he was a tackling machine on an otherwise not very great team.
Whoever signs him gets a real darkhorse, I think good enough to start in the NFL some day. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain by signing him.
Anthony Hines 6'3" 220 ILB
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Jack Sanborn Mike Backer Wisconsin. Another guy I’d like to see what you think regarding the tape.
I thought he Played well last season...especially OSU BigTen Champ game but I didn’t see a lot of him this year.
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Jack Sanborn Mike Backer Wisconsin. Another guy I’d like to see what you think regarding the tape.
I thought he Played well last season...especially OSU BigTen Champ game but I didn’t see a lot of him this year.
Jack Sanborn Mike Backer Wisconsin. Another guy I’d like to see what you think regarding the tape.
I thought he Played well last season...especially OSU BigTen Champ game but I didn’t see a lot of him this year.
I'll try to get around to him as well.
Right now I'm relaxing and watching Chazz Surratt and his cutup against 'Cuse. Wasn't much to talk about 1st half, but the 2nd half of this game has caught my eye. Kid can move and he doesn't hesitate when he see's something. You also see some of his experience in the QB room paying off on how he attacks underneath stuff and follows a QB's eyes based on formation and personnel. Also has shown a nice ability to get underneath blockers and fight to the ball carrier.
He has my curiosity.
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So it's obvious the Browns are going to be concentrating on defense this offseason.
Thing is, I'm not sure what type of players fits a Joe Woods defense. Does he like smaller, faster one-gap DLinemen? Or bigger, space-eating DLinemen? Fast, athletic LBs that can cover sideline-to-sideline or big, bruising LBs? Man-to-man cornerbacks, or smart, bigger CBs who specialize in playing the zone?
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