Offensive Line

The Gipper

@dutch-oven said:

You should have beaned him before he did Ravenna dirty like that.... ?

Did Ravenna dirty? You probably deserved it.

Don't feel bad. Note that he has been doing "Ravens" radio games for like 15 years now. So, what goes around comes around.

The Gipper

and six of those ended up playing in the NFL

Six guys from the same Kent Roosevelt HS team ended up playing in the NFL. I don't know if that is a record or what, but that is a hell of a lot.

The Gipper

Here is an interesting article. Recent, just written in November: The 40 high schools that have produced the most NFL players. The leader is one of those "academies" in Virginia.

https://www.stadiumtalk.com/s/high-schools-that-produce-most-nfl-players-8f58a46f3f1a4c1a

A lot of schools from Texas, California and Florida

4 schools from Ohio:

Warren G. Harding 21 players

Massillon 23 players

Glenville 27 players

Canton McKinley 30 players.

To be honest.....I am not aware of a single player from my high school in history who has ever played in the NFL....but a few here from my kid's school where I live have.

Though....the founder of Goodyear Tire and Rubber was born there in my home town. (Norton)

And something I just recently learned. The wife of the richest man to ever walk the earth, in relative dollars: John D. Rockefeller, came from right here in Wadsworth. I guess you could say that meant the richest woman ever to walk the earth was from here. To my knowledge, none of that money was ever spread around town here. Laura Spelman was her name. Spelman College in Atlanta was named after her.

DieHardBrownsFan

@tour2ma said:

Not a name I've thought of in a few decades, but sure rings a bell... IIRC correctly he was a year ahead of me, and he and Ken Kubit(sp?) were our starting DTs my Jr. year.

I was friends with his younger brother in Elementary and Jr. High. If I recall he got a scholarship to Middle Tenn but quit after 1 year. I remember Kubit. Big guy who ate like a horse. I think he got a job as a corrections officer for the County Jail.

Dutch Oven

@the-gipper said:

and six of those ended up playing in the NFL

Six guys from the same Kent Roosevelt HS team ended up playing in the NFL. I don't know if that is a record or what, but that is a hell of a lot.

That '67 Roosevelt team was ridiculous.

The '64 undefeated Ravenna team was damn good too, with Don Nottingham.

Flugel

@sdbacker80 said:

Any former offensive lineman on this board??? It seems like RB, WR, CB types would have the hardest time with High Ankle sprains. Quick burst positions. But it’s not a fun injury overall for anyone.

Trapping and pulling require healthy ankles; and Teller was good at both. Pass pro can demand some lateral movement that can make it difficult on a flimsy ankle. Also keep in mind, the Browns are heading back to the turf in the Meadowlands this weekend that some speculated led to some serious (and possibly avoidable) injuries that a grass surface may not have caused.

Cook looked like he did a solid job last week to the extent I'm guessing we will be running the ball to the right more often than we did last week. I think he's been learning backup Center and Guard roles so now he can just focus more on RG and get an entire week of prep with the game plans. My guess is the play calling was cognizant of this. FWIW, the Giants have a very good defensive front against the run .Leonard Williams and Dexter Lawrence are both 1st round draft picks playing extremely well for them. Williams was actually drafted by the Jets and the Giants are tapping his talent IMO.

Orion

@flugel said:

the Giants have a very good defensive front against the run .Leonard Williams and Dexter Lawrence are both 1st round draft picks playing extremely well for them.

Exactly. They throttled our run. Fortunately we still were able to move the ball.

The Gipper

@dutch-oven said:

That '67 Roosevelt team was ridiculous.

The '64 undefeated Ravenna team was damn good too, with Don Nottingham.

Yes. As you may know, both KR and Ravenna were in the same conference as Norton where I went. I had a bit of an older friend who played either DL or LB for Norton at the time Nottingham played for Ravenna...and also when Larry Csonka played for Stow. He said that Csonka was a cream puff compared to Nottingham to try to tackle.

jiggins7919

The article I read this morning said Teller wasn't practicing, but wasn't ruled out just yet. We'll see, but I'm guessing we want to make sure he's healthy for next week. Sendejo is actually back, and I couldn't be happier. Malcom Smith isn't practicing and that makes me very nervous.

calfoxwc

@the-gipper said:

Yes. As you may know, both KR and Ravenna were in the same conference as Norton where I went. I had a bit of an older friend who played either DL or LB for Norton at the time Nottingham played for Ravenna...and also when Larry Csonka played for Stow. He said that Csonka was a cream puff compared to Nottingham to try to tackle.

Larry was a big charging angry buffalo.

calfoxwc

Larry Csonka was 6'3" - I knew his sister Nancy.

Don Nottingham - no highlight video of him -

but he was "the Bowling Ball" but was only 5'10", harder to get a hold of, and was only 210 lbs. But he was stocky, and

powerful, no fear, like a rocky mountain goat violently headbashing with another rocky mountain goat.

He caught passes out of the backfield, and also -returned kicks-.

https://www.nfl.com/players/don-nottingham/stats/career

I did find this video of him, though - he ended up with hearing loss from all the collisions....

The Gipper

I had some dealings with some other members of Larry Csonka's family. Perhaps a nephew/cousin. Let's put it this way: they were basically scumbags, thieves, that thought because the uncle/cousin had been an NFL player that it gave them carte blanche to screw people over.

calfoxwc

the roosevelt and ravenna teams back then - I remember one of them had some super star guy who could return kicks, wr? and

nobody could ever catch him. Everybody knew his name back then. I don't remember it now. lol

The Gipper

@calfoxwc said:

the roosevelt and ravenna teams back then - I remember one of them had some super star guy who could return kicks, wr? and

nobody could ever catch him. Everybody knew his name back then. I don't remember it now. lol

There was Tom Campana who went to OSU...but did not quite make in in the NFL...but did play in the CFL...but I think his Dad played like 4 years for the Bears. Stan White....OSU/Colts . Stan Boykin, OSU may not have played in NFL, but did ....and there have been many Boykins that went there...in fact I see 7 Boykins that played in the NFL. At least half of them may have gone to Kent Roosevelt. Tom DeLeone was on that team. OSU/Browns.

Mike Adamle was just a year ahead of that Quartet.

The Gipper

The 1966 Kent Roosevelt-Ravenna classic had everything: High stakes, high drama and a star-studded collection of talent on both sides unmatched in the rivalry’s rich history. An astonishing total of six future NFL draft picks took the field at Bowers Field in Kent for that now-infamous contest between two undefeated teams with the Metro League championship on the line......

The powerful Ravens were led by big, rugged senior running back Don Nottingham and coached by Nunzio “Foot” Polichene, who was in his first year after taking over from legendary Ravenna mentor Harry Gilcrest. Nottingham would go on to star at Kent State University and play in the NFL with the Baltimore Colts and Miami Dolphins, winning the Super Bowl with Miami in the 1973 season......

An astounding five players from that 1966 Kent Roosevelt team went on to become NFL draft picks, including all three running backs in senior Mike Adamle and juniors Jerry Brown and Tom Campana Jr.

Adamle starred at Northwestern University and played in the NFL with the Kansas City Chiefs, New York Jets and Chicago Bears. Brown also played at Northwestern and was drafted by the San Francisco 49ers before going on to a distinguished coaching career which continues to this day (Brown currently serves as the assistant head coach at Northwestern). Campana Jr., meanwhile, was a standout for Woody Hayes at Ohio State and was drafted by the NFL’s St. Louis Cardinals before embarking on a successful career with the Saskatchewan Roughriders of the Canadian Football League.

The 1966 Rough Riders also featured junior center Tom DeLeone and junior linebacker Stan White, both of whom later starred at Ohio State with the younger Campana. Both DeLeone and White went on to outstanding NFL careers, DeLeone as a center for the Cleveland Browns and White as a linebacker with the Colts and Detroit Lions.

Note: I believe that Mike Adamle's Dad, Tony, was the Browns official team physician for many years.

The Gipper

Adamle on a 1951 football card

No. 74, 54

Position:

Linebacker, Fullback

Personal information

Born:

May 15, 1924
Fairmont, West Virginia

Died:

October 7, 2000 (aged 76)
Kent, Ohio

Career information

College:

Ohio State University

NFL Draft:

1947 / Round: 12 / Pick: 105
(By the Chicago Bears)

Career history

Cleveland Browns (1947–1951, 1954)

Career highlights and awards

3× AAFC Champion (1947, 1948, 1949)
2× NFL Champion (1950, 1954)
2× Pro Bowl selection (1950, 1951)
First-team All-Pro (1951)

Career NFL statistics

Games:	75
Rushing Yards:	255
Touchdowns:	2
Interceptions:	7
Fumbles recovered:	6

calfoxwc

@the-gipper said:

I had some dealings with some other members of Larry Csonka's family. Perhaps a nephew/cousin. Let's put it this way: they were basically scumbags, thieves, that thought because the uncle/cousin had been an NFL player that it gave them carte blanche to screw people over.

I didn't know that - but Nancy was a sweetheart - in hs. Larry was some years ahead of me, he was well liked.

calfoxwc

@the-gipper said:

There was Tom Campana who went to OSU...but did not quite make in in the NFL...but did play in the CFL...but I think his Dad played like 4 years for the Bears. Stan White....OSU/Colts . Stan Boykin, OSU may not have played in NFL, but did ....and there have been many Boykins that went there...in fact I see 7 Boykins that played in the NFL. At least half of them may have gone to Kent Roosevelt. Tom DeLeone was on that team. OSU/Browns.

Mike Adamle was just a year ahead of that Quartet.

Campana, I think that was him. Blazing fast. The Boykins were a succession of terrific hs players.

calfoxwc

but getting back to the offensive line.....

When Harris went in for Hubbard, I didn't expect him to play terrific. I figured things would go wrong.

I was wrong. He's very, very smart - and can PLAY:

https://www.brownsnation.com/who-is-nick-harris/

TexasAg1969

@calfoxwc said:

but getting back to the offensive line.....

When Harris went in for Hubbard, I didn't expect him to play terrific. I figured things would go wrong.

I was wrong. He's very, very smart - and can PLAY:

https://www.brownsnation.com/who-is-nick-harris/

I think some really underestimated how very excellent Bill Callahan is as an OL coach. We should not have been surprised that Harris was very prepared to just step right in when the need was there. There is a reason our OL as a whole has become one of the very best in the NFL.