STEELER WEEK..... v2.0 ..... and this one is in 2021!
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Maybe- they seemingly understand the rivalry better.
What do you mean the Steeler's understand it better? Having a "better understanding" means they have had the better Owners/ GMs/coaches/QBs players. I am not sure that is better "understanding"....it is better competence however. I guess you can surmise that our litany of crappy coaches and crappy GMs and crappy QBs didn't understand the rivalry.....or you can say they just sucked at football in every aspect of the game...not just rivalry comprehension.
It is has been a long tough year mentally and physically a bye week could help them this next stretch too.
Again, not sure where you are coming. Steelers will NOT be in for any bye week. Only one team gets a bye before the playoffs, and that is already clinched by the Chiefs.
And I could see them being comfortable with potentially playing us again 3 vs. 6 game. Sitting guys...giving us a vanilla look and then bringing out the heavy artillery to beat us in Pitt the following week.Well....they could, I guess....if they had such a thing.
But I still do not see them holding back, for their own reasons.
one sports book has assumed it already and we are -7.5 favorites
sounds likely guys will sit.
the “bye week” would be week 17 for guys that sit.
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sounds likely guys will sit.
the “bye week” would be week 17 for guys that sit.
sounds likely guys will sit.
the “bye week” would be week 17 for guys that sit.
Well, yes. I still think that is gamesmanship and will only believe it when I see it . Steelers CAN still get the #2 seed and what comes with that: 2 home playoff games.
That is...unless the league goes into the Bubble like I suggested.
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sounds likely guys will sit.
the “bye week” would be week 17 for guys that sit.
Well, yes. I still think that is gamesmanship and will only believe it when I see it . Steelers CAN still get the #2 seed and what comes with that: 2 home playoff games.
That is...unless the league goes into the Bubble like I suggested.
Well, yes. I still think that is gamesmanship and will only believe it when I see it . Steelers CAN still get the #2 seed and what comes with that: 2 home playoff games.
That is...unless the league goes into the Bubble like I suggested.
What is home field this year? The Bills can’t even have fans at their stadium. Pitt to Buffalo short bus ride
If I had to guess I think Ben plays a quarter maybe. Maybe the WRs follow that plan. Watt sits- he goes down they are done.
Probably Heyward/Tuitt vets in the trenches.
Maybe guys that have nagging injuries this year.
I would probably give the Oline a little more burn and try to fix the run game
Anyone know what Tomlin has done in the past?
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Well, yes. I still think that is gamesmanship and will only believe it when I see it . Steelers CAN still get the #2 seed and what comes with that: 2 home playoff games.
That is...unless the league goes into the Bubble like I suggested.
What is home field this year? The Bills can’t even have fans at their stadium. Pitt to Buffalo short bus ride
If I had to guess I think Ben plays a quarter maybe. Maybe the WRs follow that plan. Watt sits- he goes down they are done.
Probably Heyward/Tuitt vets in the trenches.
Maybe guys that have nagging injuries this year.
I would probably give the Oline a little more burn and try to fix the run game
Anyone know what Tomlin has done in the past?
What is home field this year? The Bills can’t even have fans at their stadium. Pitt to Buffalo short bus ride
Did you see the Green Bay game tonight? THAT was a home field advantage.
Like I said in my Bubble thread, I would like to see no one have a home field in the first two rounds......but I doubt the league is going to go with that.
If I had to guess I think Ben plays a quarter maybe. Maybe the WRs follow that plan. Watt sits- he goes down they are done.
Probably Heyward/Tuitt vets in the trenches.
Maybe guys that have nagging injuries this year.
I would probably give the Oline a little more burn and try to fix the run game
Anyone know what Tomlin has done in the past?
I am guessing that their starters will stay in the game as long as it is competitive. I would like to see them all go out after we get up on them like we got up on the Cowboys and Titans.....
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A quick perusal of the stats Tour. The Steelers had 20 count 'em 20 rushing yards against the Colts. We may not be able to beat them- but with that pathetic running game the Steelers are one and done in the playoffs...
A quick perusal of the stats Tour. The Steelers had 20 count 'em 20 rushing yards against the Colts. We may not be able to beat them- but with that pathetic running game the Steelers are one and done in the playoffs...
Steelers haven't been able to run the ball for weeks.
Anyone know what Tomlin has done in the past?
He's rested players.
Case in point was 2017 when in Week 16 Ben and Bell played vs. HOU, but both sat Week 17 vs. their bitter, bitter rivals, The Cleveland Browns.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201712250htx.htm ...................... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201712310pit.htm
lmao at how many times can one man can be wrong.
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I don't think so. You see that last game, those boys came to PLAY. I never get the sense the Browns get that pumped to play the Steelers. I don't think they were even pumped for today's game against the Jets. It's almost like they forgot what was on the line.
I am talking historically.....like the past 25 years. While the Bengals had a few decent years.....for the most part this has been a two team division in terms of competitiveness. Fair to say?
I am talking historically.....like the past 25 years. While the Bengals had a few decent years.....for the most part this has been a two team division in terms of competitiveness. Fair to say?
Yeah the Steelers and the Ravens. The 0-16, 1-15 Browns were penciled in as a W. Maybe the current players heard from their dad or grandpa about the big rivalry with the Browns. Outside of the Kosar years, it's been lopsided. Roethlisberger has more wins in First Energy than any Cleveland qb since 1999.
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A quick perusal of the stats Tour. The Steelers had 20 count 'em 20 rushing yards against the Colts. We may not be able to beat them- but with that pathetic running game the Steelers are one and done in the playoffs...
Steelers haven't been able to run the ball for weeks.
Anyone know what Tomlin has done in the past?
He's rested players.
Case in point was 2017 when in Week 16 Ben and Bell played vs. HOU, but both sat Week 17 vs. their bitter, bitter rivals, The Cleveland Browns.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201712250htx.htm ...................... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201712310pit.htm
lmao at how many times can one man can be wrong.
Steelers haven't been able to run the ball for weeks.
He's rested players.
Case in point was 2017 when in Week 16 Ben and Bell played vs. HOU, but both sat Week 17 vs. their bitter, bitter rivals, The Cleveland Browns.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201712250htx.htm ...................... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201712310pit.htm
lmao at how many times can one man can be wrong.
Thank you for looking that up...
I think there is still remnants of the rivalry. I think Ben certainly enjoys beating us. I think they (Tomlin, Front Office) prefer us being down and making a playoff spot doesn’t fall in line with that...but I think they actually want to play us more this year than say the Ravens.I think they are worried too if Mason starts there is jawing, maybe suspension type altercations and you can’t have that the week before the playoffs. In that case, I’d probably play Hobbs instead of Mason.
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Well, yes. I still think that is gamesmanship and will only believe it when I see it . Steelers CAN still get the #2 seed and what comes with that: 2 home playoff games.
That is...unless the league goes into the Bubble like I suggested.
What is home field this year? The Bills can’t even have fans at their stadium. Pitt to Buffalo short bus ride
If I had to guess I think Ben plays a quarter maybe. Maybe the WRs follow that plan. Watt sits- he goes down they are done.
Probably Heyward/Tuitt vets in the trenches.
Maybe guys that have nagging injuries this year.
I would probably give the Oline a little more burn and try to fix the run game
Anyone know what Tomlin has done in the past?
Anyone know what Tomlin has done in the past?
I don't like the guy at all, but he plays to win. Like Gipper said, if he can bury the Browns he will try.
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Anyone know what Tomlin has done in the past?
I don't like the guy at all, but he plays to win. Like Gipper said, if he can bury the Browns he will try.
I don't like the guy at all, but he plays to win. Like Gipper said, if he can bury the Browns he will try.
I don’t doubt that he wants to see us down as long as he’s in Pittsburgh.
And He would probably like to get a few things right (run game) and he’s licking his chops at our defense right now.
But at what cost....
They lost two of their best defensive players this year Dupree and Bush. Would you push Watt out another week in a game that means everything to the Browns who will try to wide zone them to death?
They have some older guys playing big roles on the roster including Ben, AV (who probably would like a break from Myles), Heyward, Tuitt, etc. and no rest since Week 4. It’s Been a long year for that team and others of course.
I think deep down they prefer to play us over the Ravens or the Colts. They probably feel they have Bakers number - Ben is more comfortable against are passive no blitz approach and realizes he can spread the field on our porous secondary.
You go Vanilla in week 17 but you get a look at another team that is going full go live and in person before the big game the next week. Sounds juicy to Mike Tomlin?
I still think we can win if both teams are at full strength.
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The Steelers are playing everybody, as far as I know. That might change, but I doubt it. They beat us almost every time, why wouldn't they want another tune up game before the playoffs? I'd be shocked if they sat anyone.
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I don't like the guy at all, but he plays to win. Like Gipper said, if he can bury the Browns he will try.
I don’t doubt that he wants to see us down as long as he’s in Pittsburgh.
And He would probably like to get a few things right (run game) and he’s licking his chops at our defense right now.
But at what cost....
They lost two of their best defensive players this year Dupree and Bush. Would you push Watt out another week in a game that means everything to the Browns who will try to wide zone them to death?
They have some older guys playing big roles on the roster including Ben, AV (who probably would like a break from Myles), Heyward, Tuitt, etc. and no rest since Week 4. It’s Been a long year for that team and others of course.
I think deep down they prefer to play us over the Ravens or the Colts. They probably feel they have Bakers number - Ben is more comfortable against are passive no blitz approach and realizes he can spread the field on our porous secondary.
You go Vanilla in week 17 but you get a look at another team that is going full go live and in person before the big game the next week. Sounds juicy to Mike Tomlin?
I still think we can win if both teams are at full strength.
But at what cost....
I get what you're saying.
However, I do believe Tomlin was coaching when the Colts rested their regulars in week 17, and the Steelers came in to Indy and beat the Colts in a playoff game. The game where Big Ben somehow tackled the Colts' safety, who was going to score on a fumble return, but the safety got stabbed by his girlfriend the night before and he had no speed
Sorry for the tangent. Damn, the Steelers have been good, and very lucky for a long, long time.
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But at what cost....
I get what you're saying.
However, I do believe Tomlin was coaching when the Colts rested their regulars in week 17, and the Steelers came in to Indy and beat the Colts in a playoff game. The game where Big Ben somehow tackled the Colts' safety, who was going to score on a fumble return, but the safety got stabbed by his girlfriend the night before and he had no speed
Sorry for the tangent. Damn, the Steelers have been good, and very lucky for a long, long time.
I get what you're saying.
However, I do believe Tomlin was coaching when the Colts rested their regulars in week 17, and the Steelers came in to Indy and beat the Colts in a playoff game. The game where Big Ben somehow tackled the Colts' safety, who was going to score on a fumble return, but the safety got stabbed by his girlfriend the night before and he had no speed
Sorry for the tangent. Damn, the Steelers have been good, and very lucky for a long, long time.
How much does history of resting and not resting vs. current circumstances come into play? We will find out here.
I hate to say this but they have earned some of this luck getting the three most important positions filled with HOF type players- Ownership, QB and HC. And then they have a defensive scheme for decades that they just plug in their guys that fit certain desired skill sets. Most of the guys over the years weren’t even blue chip draft prospects. Although I do see more first round talent on the defense. -
Cleveland opening up as 7 point favorite = Tomlin sitting his key players. Vegas doesn't play when it comes to $$. Ink that!
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I am talking historically.....like the past 25 years. While the Bengals had a few decent years.....for the most part this has been a two team division in terms of competitiveness. Fair to say?
Yeah the Steelers and the Ravens. The 0-16, 1-15 Browns were penciled in as a W. Maybe the current players heard from their dad or grandpa about the big rivalry with the Browns. Outside of the Kosar years, it's been lopsided. Roethlisberger has more wins in First Energy than any Cleveland qb since 1999.
Yeah the Steelers and the Ravens. The 0-16, 1-15 Browns were penciled in as a W. Maybe the current players heard from their dad or grandpa about the big rivalry with the Browns. Outside of the Kosar years, it's been lopsided. Roethlisberger has more wins in First Energy than any Cleveland qb since 1999.
Actually, Baker has overtaken that.
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Steelers haven't been able to run the ball for weeks.
He's rested players.
Case in point was 2017 when in Week 16 Ben and Bell played vs. HOU, but both sat Week 17 vs. their bitter, bitter rivals, The Cleveland Browns.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201712250htx.htm ...................... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201712310pit.htm
lmao at how many times can one man can be wrong.
Thank you for looking that up...
I think there is still remnants of the rivalry. I think Ben certainly enjoys beating us. I think they (Tomlin, Front Office) prefer us being down and making a playoff spot doesn’t fall in line with that...but I think they actually want to play us more this year than say the Ravens.I think they are worried too if Mason starts there is jawing, maybe suspension type altercations and you can’t have that the week before the playoffs. In that case, I’d probably play Hobbs instead of Mason.
Thank you for looking that up...
I think there is still remnants of the rivalry. I think Ben certainly enjoys beating us. I think they (Tomlin, Front Office) prefer us being down and making a playoff spot doesn’t fall in line with that...but I think they actually want to play us more this year than say the Ravens.I think they are worried too if Mason starts there is jawing, maybe suspension type altercations and you can’t have that the week before the playoffs. In that case, I’d probably play Hobbs instead of Mason.
For the umpteenth time.....the #2 seed may be on the line for the Steelers...as opposed to the #3 seed. Which would mean the difference of possibly having a game against Buffalo at home instead of having to travel to Buffalo for the second round game.......assuming they both get past their first game. Sitting their main players would be counterproductive to that end.
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Cleveland opening up as 7 point favorite = Tomlin sitting his key players. Vegas doesn't play when it comes to $$. Ink that!
Cleveland opening up as 7 point favorite = Tomlin sitting his key players. Vegas doesn't play when it comes to $$. Ink that!
You are wrong. Cleveland is a 7 point favorite because they are seen as the better team at this point (at full strength)....and they are playing at home. Home usually means 3 pts. on the spread....though I wonder about this year.
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Cleveland opening up as 7 point favorite = Tomlin sitting his key players. Vegas doesn't play when it comes to $$. Ink that!
You are wrong. Cleveland is a 7 point favorite because they are seen as the better team at this point (at full strength)....and they are playing at home. Home usually means 3 pts. on the spread....though I wonder about this year.
You are wrong. Cleveland is a 7 point favorite because they are seen as the better team at this point (at full strength)....and they are playing at home. Home usually means 3 pts. on the spread....though I wonder about this year.
Lol. No no.
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Thank you for looking that up...
I think there is still remnants of the rivalry. I think Ben certainly enjoys beating us. I think they (Tomlin, Front Office) prefer us being down and making a playoff spot doesn’t fall in line with that...but I think they actually want to play us more this year than say the Ravens.I think they are worried too if Mason starts there is jawing, maybe suspension type altercations and you can’t have that the week before the playoffs. In that case, I’d probably play Hobbs instead of Mason.
For the umpteenth time.....the #2 seed may be on the line for the Steelers...as opposed to the #3 seed. Which would mean the difference of possibly having a game against Buffalo at home instead of having to travel to Buffalo for the second round game.......assuming they both get past their first game. Sitting their main players would be counterproductive to that end.
For the umpteenth time.....the #2 seed may be on the line for the Steelers...as opposed to the #3 seed. Which would mean the difference of possibly having a game against Buffalo at home instead of having to travel to Buffalo for the second round game.......assuming they both get past their first game. Sitting their main players would be counterproductive to that end.
Understood.
Does the 2 seed get a bye?
Will the 2 seed Buffalo Bills being playing in front a loud crowd making Steeler calls difficult?
But There is no right or wrong answer to sit or not sit obviously if TJ Watt pulls a hammy next week or Ben breaks a collar bone. Steeler fans will say it was the wrong answer
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I think a lot of you have the wrong idea with Mike Tomlin. I don't think he gives a single shit about "keeping the Browns down". The man is focused on his team and only his team. I frankly expect a lot of starters to sit seeing as we really didn't get a bye week. A week 4 bye doesn't do a fucking thing and the team is on the record saying they are mentally exhausted because of moving stuff around with covid. Tj is one sack away from Harrison sack record but I don't think he or tomlin give a damn. I have no idea what to expect.
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A quick perusal of the stats Tour. The Steelers had 20 count 'em 20 rushing yards against the Colts. We may not be able to beat them- but with that pathetic running game the Steelers are one and done in the playoffs...
A quick perusal of the stats Tour. The Steelers had 20 count 'em 20 rushing yards against the Colts. We may not be able to beat them- but with that pathetic running game the Steelers are one and done in the playoffs...
We looked awful in the first half and woke up in the second. The issues with the run game are two fold. Randy and his calls and a banged up on-line. We didn't have many rushing carries either. Dotson is in and healthy and he's what we've needed so we shall see if the ground game struggles continue. However with Ben throwing the ball down field and our arsenal at wr it opened up the run game. Sooooo much of our run game problem outside of what I already mentioned is teams haven't been afraid of the pass because randy has been calling dink and dunks. All of which worked early until teams started scheming for it. The second half yesterday was throwing the ball down field and Ben lit them up. No idea what team is showing up next week or in the playoffs but if it's the team in the second half against the Colts I'm feeling much better about things moving forward.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month)
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