Is the personal really the problem with CLE's 3-4
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chud needs to stay. his playcalling is getting better and his schemes are solid. he made DA's monster year last year and has quinn off to a good start. he's the only good coach we have.
our blitzes are effing terrible. they're obvious, basic and ineffective. also, it hurts us tremendously that wimbley's a little bitch. 3-4 LBs need speed and strength. wimbley couldn't tackle ki-jana carter. all he does is overpursue and run himself out of the play. i wanted us to draft ngata that year. good thing we got a 6th round pick and kam instead.
ultimately, though, the schemes are the problem. wimbley's sack against denver was a well-schemed blitz. it confused the offense and let a man come free. however, those schemes are few and far between with tucker. most of the time, it's the same idiot corner and safety blitzes that every offensive lineman has known how to pick up since high school.
i think tucker's past as a DB coach really hurts him. he doesn't know how to get the most out of our linebackers and it shows. yes, they're a disappointing group overall, but i think their production is largely tied to how they're being misused. i've seen a lot more DB blitzes than LB blitzes and that's no way to run a winning 3-4.
as much as i dislike wimbley, he, hall and d'qwell should be enough to have at least a decent pass rush instead of the abortion we constantly trot out onto the field. even leon williams could be put into better positions to get to the QB. davis simply doesn't have the speed anymore. he barely did when he was younger. now that he's older, there's no way he can do his job. mcginest has looked surprisingly resurgent. i wanted him gone earlier this year. he's surprised me more than anyone other than d'qwell and hall.
where does this leave us? tucker's got to go. he's a good, maybe better than good, DB coach. but he's plain terrible as a DC, particularly when running romeo's brand of the 3-4. we need to throw tons of cash at dick lebeau and get him to be our DC. he's the best. it's why pittsburgh linebackers rarely are great on other teams. his system is simply the best. taking him from pittsburgh would simultaneously fortify our D while stripping theirs of its identity. no one is as good as lebeau. his schemes and playcalling are both frighteningly good. yes, pittsburgh lost. but they're 6-3. we're 3-6, a 3-6 that could easily be 5-4 with a better DC.
also, switching to the 4-3 isn't the answer. we run a 4-3 line half the time right now and that's a huge part of our problem. we need that deception to help us create pressure and a 4-man line tells the offense exactly where the rush is coming from.
yes, i want to model our D after the steelers. i like how they play. more than that, i like that they win. i want to win. but i want to win in orange and brown, not black and gold.
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the only difference between the two towns is pittsburgh's winning tradition. might money be enough to bring him in? what else can we offer? give him some stake in MBNA. i don't know. get some 12-year-old thai hookers. anything to get lebeau.
seriously, has anyone even tried to lure him out of pittsburgh?
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definitely only as DC. it's what he's good at. i remember him in cinci. terrible head coach, just putrid.
what would it take to get him here, then? yes, money's not the only thing. a contract in perpetuity, like a tim wakefield-style deal? i'd hand that to him. he can coach as long as he can think. the man's the stephen hawking of the 3-4 defense.
if i'm randy lerner, i call him and ask him what it'll take. make him a godfather offer.
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The scheme doesn't matter. When we went to the 3-4 with RAC, most of the guys here creamed their jeans because we were finally going to stop the run. That was the answer. They argued that all the great run stuffing D's were 3-4.
When that didn't work, they argued that the 3-4 really needs a big run stuffing NT to stop the run. Oops. That hasn't worked either.
Guys, the schemes don't matter. The Browns show all kinds of different looks anyways. 3-4, 2-5, 4-3. They're all dogshit. What matters is havings leadership on the field and on the sidelines. It wouldn't hurt to throw in a bone shattering athlete once every 10 years too.
If you brought Cowher in here with the condition that he had to run a 4-3, you know what? He'd do it and win. He'd figure it out. He'd make it work. That's what good coaches do.
If you brought Lawrence Taylor (in his prime) in here, he'd play any position that you asked him to. He'd be in the face of any player that he thought wasn't pulling his weight (not to embarass him- to get him going). That's what good players do.
i miss the old days.
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Just a thought I had. We complain about how guys on CLE's D aren't performing, and aren't successful in the 3-4. Even to the point of saying Savage isn't supplying the players one can be successful with in the 3-4. Then I started thinking about the Chargers. When Wade Philips was their DC, Merriman missed games (injury and suspension), along with other guys. Yet they never really seemed to miss much of a beat. You remove Philips and suddenly their D gets worse with each year, yet loaded w/ obvious talent (or what seemed to be when Philips was running it). Did all their players forget how to play with success in the 3-4? SD turned into a middle of the pack team against the rush, last in the league againt the pass (that's right, with Jammer and Cromartie as their starting DBs, they are last), have 3 more sacks than CLE as a D, and 2 more picks than CLE.My though train (which of course is no gospil) is that a team that has the personal for a successful 3-4 went from great to pedestrian by simply removing the DC and changing HCs. So how do we really know that the players are the problem. If CLE plugged in a better HC (along with DC) that CLE's D and personal wouldn't suddenly look good in the 3-4?
Not saying they would, but it is some food for thought.
The Browns players are not the problem. Phil Sewage is the world's greatest judge of talent. The problem is simple, these other teams score too many damned points and it is causing us to lose.
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Just a thought I had. We complain about how guys on CLE's D aren't performing, and aren't successful in the 3-4. Even to the point of saying Savage isn't supplying the players one can be successful with in the 3-4. Then I started thinking about the Chargers. When Wade Philips was their DC, Merriman missed games (injury and suspension), along with other guys. Yet they never really seemed to miss much of a beat. You remove Philips and suddenly their D gets worse with each year, yet loaded w/ obvious talent (or what seemed to be when Philips was running it). Did all their players forget how to play with success in the 3-4? SD turned into a middle of the pack team against the rush, last in the league againt the pass (that's right, with Jammer and Cromartie as their starting DBs, they are last), have 3 more sacks than CLE as a D, and 2 more picks than CLE.My though train (which of course is no gospil) is that a team that has the personal for a successful 3-4 went from great to pedestrian by simply removing the DC and changing HCs. So how do we really know that the players are the problem. If CLE plugged in a better HC (along with DC) that CLE's D and personal wouldn't suddenly look good in the 3-4?
Not saying they would, but it is some food for thought.
The Browns players are not the problem. Phil Sewage is the world's greatest judge of talent. The problem is simple, these other teams score too many damned points and it is causing us to lose.
Explain how at times they can stop teams? The guys on the field are not lacking talent. There a guys lacking heart and a whole bunch lacking coaching.
Why to skip over the meat of the analogy and focus on just laying shots at the oranization. All is well in the world for you know ghoolie. You can go back to taking free shots at the team and being able to never discuss them, cause there is always a "willie green" for you to pick at.
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