The "It's-later-than-you-think" 2021 Mock Draft Thread
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Bingo.
While it's a small sample size, some of the Denver games I've watched this year... Lock has made some absolutely unforgivable throws. High school level shit.
As for their Oline? They have one of the rising young LT"s in the NFL, a decent pair of guard play (Glasglow is pretty good) and then Demar Dotson, who I don't know much about but PFF has graded him as "starting" level for the season. PFF and I have our spats but I don't recall Dotson being rolled when I watched them. What I do remember is their center be straight trash. And...... Yep, PFF seems to hate him. So at least individual grades seem about eye to eye today. Then again, a terrible center can make or break a line. So I'm not willing to discount what you're saying. Only to point out that if your QB play is elevated by the players around him and not vice versa, then is it really your long-term QB?
If Fields flops v Clemson or puts some shakes tape, he would do best to come back for another year IMHO. Make your run at the Heisman and Natty fresh with all the chemistry and development that we haven't seen since Troy to Teddy and Gonzo. I can't even begin to stress how rare it is for me to say that as well. A potential 1st round pick? The last time I said a Buckeye should stay was.....Thaddeus Gipson? Maybe? But he wasn't being hyped as a 1st rounder either. So I have to dig deep and say it was a two-fer with Ashton Youboty and Donte' Whitner. The 2006 defense with 2 extra capable DB's instead of trotting out Jamario O'Neal and Yao Smith =( Might not have shit the bed against *ichigan and UF that year.
If Fields struggles and gets drafted on the strength of a scripted workout..? Then congrats, some GM is making the same mistake that has been done hundreds of times before him.
edit: Especially in what will most likely be a very crowded QB class.
He went from a guy that was careful (‘19 season) with the ball to a guy that was reckless at times in The pursuit of Heisman and making up for lost time due to the BigTen botch job of the season. I’m Making the excuse because I saw enough of ‘19 to make the excuse. ‘19 season - 41 TDs 3 INTs which included the Clemson game and a play that unfortunately defined his season an INT at the expense of the WR taking the wrong turn.
‘20 hasn’t been god awful. It’s been suspect and questionable at times. If you recall he had at one time 12 TDs and 11 Incompletions over the first 3 games.I don’t know enough about the position to claim he’s a lock at the next level. His ball placement at times has been fabulous. He’s made some anticipatory throws well. I think arm strength checks out well. He’s got the size. But He holds the ball too long (sounds like our guy), he moves VERY well which is weapon for some lucky team. He forced the issue more times than most would like this year. He doesn’t look completely out of place under center. He seems like a hard worker and he’s played though injury (knee last year).
Not a Patrick Mahomes comparison here but I’d consider him in the Top 10 sit him for most of the first year and play him at the end like the Chiefs did with Mahomes. Fields has 20 career starts - he’s not fully there yet which makes his skill set too enticing - he has tools that can be greatly enhanced with more snaps.
He went from a guy that was careful (‘19 season) with the ball to a guy that was reckless at times in The pursuit of Heisman and making up for lost time due to the BigTen botch job of the season. I’m Making the excuse because I saw enough of ‘19 to make the excuse. ‘19 season - 41 TDs 3 INTs which included the Clemson game and a play that unfortunately defined his season an INT at the expense of the WR taking the wrong turn.
‘20 hasn’t been god awful. It’s been suspect and questionable at times. If you recall he had at one time 12 TDs and 11 Incompletions over the first 3 games.I don’t know enough about the position to claim he’s a lock at the next level. His ball placement at times has been fabulous. He’s made some anticipatory throws well. I think arm strength checks out well. He’s got the size. But He holds the ball too long (sounds like our guy), he moves VERY well which is weapon for some lucky team. He forced the issue more times than most would like this year. He doesn’t look completely out of place under center. He seems like a hard worker and he’s played though injury (knee last year).
Not a Patrick Mahomes comparison here but I’d consider him in the Top 10 sit him for most of the first year and play him at the end like the Chiefs did with Mahomes. Fields has 20 career starts - he’s not fully there yet which makes his skill set too enticing - he has tools that can be greatly enhanced with more snaps.
You're forgetting all of the 2019 season. Remember all 3qrts of the B1G title game? That was some fun foreshadowing of how things went against Clemson. While Fields played ok at times, a couple of his turnovers (the one specifically to Isiah Simmons that I keep bringing up) was bush league. Keep this in mind - Fields struggled to beat Clemson's secondary which consisted most of future NFL linebackers. K'Von Wallace, Issiah Simmons and Tanner Muse are ALL NFL LB's now but DB's at Clemson. Which was why calling the home-run shot soon to come by Joey Burrow was an easy call. I said 4TD's, Ol' boy hung 5 on em'.
As for '20? I do remember those first 3 games. All against bottom 1/3 secondaries. Seeing a trend? I have to be consistent even if it's with my team. I gave the same knock to Johnny Manziel when we drafted him because in 2 season, he beat ONE top 50 defense and was kicked around by the rest.
You'll find no argument from me about JF's physical dimensions. He "looks" like an NFL QB. But that really doesn't mean a damn thing in the grand scheme. His holding onto the ball is indicative of pre-snap determinations, slow post snap processing and poor eye movement. As I said in my first paragraph, when teams started being talented enough to slow down Dobbins and force our QB to shoulder the load, he started to buckle. The same thing has happened this year. Twice indicates a trend...
And as for that WR "taking a wrong turn". Absolutely not. I remember that play well and broke it down on this very board (I'm pretty sure?) it was a Hitch-Po against cover 2. Olave broke to the post and split both safeties. It was a gimmie throw from most every future NFL QB. Fields stared at it, didn't deliver, and when he started to shuffle in the pocket for a throwing lane, Olave thought it was a scramble drill (as had been the previous few games) so he broke to where a dead spot should* have been. Sadly, instead of Fields working on sliding his feet and resetting in the pocket all year against lesser teams, he would routinely let his athletic ability bail him out or even worse, hold onto the ball for a sack. Peep those numbers by the way when you get a second. I believe 11 sacks on the year accredited to JF in 2019.
JF was late, didn't place the ball where it needed to go, and when you have WR's who believe their QB can be a bit of a wild card at times .... that's the result you get.
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Exactly. So I guess my point ends up coming back around on itself.
I don't believe Lock is their "long term" answer at this point. And outside of center, Denver's oline is pretty good. However I think it would be stupid for them to end up taking the 3rd or 4th QB in this draft (possibly Fields) because that really doesn't strike me as a winning strategy. At which point when Lawrence is picked #1, teams will have to basically convince themselves they love the next guy. How many times have we see this in the last decade alone? Gabbert, Bortles, Weeden, Manziel, Lynch, etc etc.
Or this could be 1983 or 2004 with multiple great QBs. I think we are due.
I think Lock is part of the reason the Broncos haven’t taken off. Reviews are mixed so far - is that fair?
Or this could be 1983 or 2004 with multiple great QBs. I think we are due.
I think Lock is part of the reason the Broncos haven’t taken off. Reviews are mixed so far - is that fair?
Fair.
By the way, as we converse here... I'm doing a write up on the first viewing of Chazz Surrbat both you and @texasag1969 requested.
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I think PFF's OL grading is pretty good... at least that was my experience when once-upon-a-time I graded our OL. And, yes, Glasgow is a building block. Really liked him when a scouted him a few drafts ago.
Your QB question is a good one.
My answer is: Yes... until a better one comes along. Goes with my philosophy of you always need to be looking for your next QB. Only the intensity (and price you are willing to pay) vary.
It's why you take a Day 3 QB (or sign a UDFA) close to every year. There's almost always a "dark-horse" out there who has a shot. It's how NE came across TB12. It's like panning for gold.
It's why a Philly spends a 2nd on a Hurts when they have a Wentz.
Even explains a team taking two QBs in the same draft (WSH 2012... RG3 and Cousins).
Exactly. So I guess my point ends up coming back around on itself.
I don't believe Lock is their "long term" answer at this point. And outside of center, Denver's oline is pretty good. However I think it would be stupid for them to end up taking the 3rd or 4th QB in this draft (possibly Fields) because that really doesn't strike me as a winning strategy. At which point when Lawrence is picked #1, teams will have to basically convince themselves they love the next guy. How many times have we see this in the last decade alone? Gabbert, Bortles, Weeden, Manziel, Lynch, etc etc.
How many times have we see this in the last decade alone? Gabbert, Bortles, Weeden, Manziel, Lynch, etc etc.
1... 2... 3... 4... I am going to go with at least 5...
I think I've read where Round 1 QBs are the best bet at about 50/50 and the odds only go down from there.
The search may be a long one, but you have to keep sifting until you find one. Of course it helps if you are not stupid, e.g., Wheezy, JFF, Lynch.
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How many times have we see this in the last decade alone? Gabbert, Bortles, Weeden, Manziel, Lynch, etc etc.
1... 2... 3... 4... I am going to go with at least 5...
I think I've read where Round 1 QBs are the best bet at about 50/50 and the odds only go down from there.
The search may be a long one, but you have to keep sifting until you find one. Of course it helps if you are not stupid, e.g., Wheezy, JFF, Lynch.
1... 2... 3... 4... I am going to go with at least 5...
I think I've read where Round 1 QBs are the best bet at about 50/50 and the odds only go down from there.
The search may be a long one, but you have to keep sifting until you find one. Of course it helps if you are not stupid, e.g., Wheezy, JFF, Lynch.
Round 1 is the place, there's no getting around that.
QB's are almost the antithesis to TE's in that respect. You just find so much talent at TE between 2-4 that's it's almost pointless to spend a 1st rounder on one.
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He went from a guy that was careful (‘19 season) with the ball to a guy that was reckless at times in The pursuit of Heisman and making up for lost time due to the BigTen botch job of the season. I’m Making the excuse because I saw enough of ‘19 to make the excuse. ‘19 season - 41 TDs 3 INTs which included the Clemson game and a play that unfortunately defined his season an INT at the expense of the WR taking the wrong turn.
‘20 hasn’t been god awful. It’s been suspect and questionable at times. If you recall he had at one time 12 TDs and 11 Incompletions over the first 3 games.I don’t know enough about the position to claim he’s a lock at the next level. His ball placement at times has been fabulous. He’s made some anticipatory throws well. I think arm strength checks out well. He’s got the size. But He holds the ball too long (sounds like our guy), he moves VERY well which is weapon for some lucky team. He forced the issue more times than most would like this year. He doesn’t look completely out of place under center. He seems like a hard worker and he’s played though injury (knee last year).
Not a Patrick Mahomes comparison here but I’d consider him in the Top 10 sit him for most of the first year and play him at the end like the Chiefs did with Mahomes. Fields has 20 career starts - he’s not fully there yet which makes his skill set too enticing - he has tools that can be greatly enhanced with more snaps.
You're forgetting all of the 2019 season. Remember all 3qrts of the B1G title game? That was some fun foreshadowing of how things went against Clemson. While Fields played ok at times, a couple of his turnovers (the one specifically to Isiah Simmons that I keep bringing up) was bush league. Keep this in mind - Fields struggled to beat Clemson's secondary which consisted most of future NFL linebackers. K'Von Wallace, Issiah Simmons and Tanner Muse are ALL NFL LB's now but DB's at Clemson. Which was why calling the home-run shot soon to come by Joey Burrow was an easy call. I said 4TD's, Ol' boy hung 5 on em'.
As for '20? I do remember those first 3 games. All against bottom 1/3 secondaries. Seeing a trend? I have to be consistent even if it's with my team. I gave the same knock to Johnny Manziel when we drafted him because in 2 season, he beat ONE top 50 defense and was kicked around by the rest.
You'll find no argument from me about JF's physical dimensions. He "looks" like an NFL QB. But that really doesn't mean a damn thing in the grand scheme. His holding onto the ball is indicative of pre-snap determinations, slow post snap processing and poor eye movement. As I said in my first paragraph, when teams started being talented enough to slow down Dobbins and force our QB to shoulder the load, he started to buckle. The same thing has happened this year. Twice indicates a trend...
And as for that WR "taking a wrong turn". Absolutely not. I remember that play well and broke it down on this very board (I'm pretty sure?) it was a Hitch-Po against cover 2. Olave broke to the post and split both safeties. It was a gimmie throw from most every future NFL QB. Fields stared at it, didn't deliver, and when he started to shuffle in the pocket for a throwing lane, Olave thought it was a scramble drill (as had been the previous few games) so he broke to where a dead spot should* have been. Sadly, instead of Fields working on sliding his feet and resetting in the pocket all year against lesser teams, he would routinely let his athletic ability bail him out or even worse, hold onto the ball for a sack. Peep those numbers by the way when you get a second. I believe 11 sacks on the year accredited to JF in 2019.
JF was late, didn't place the ball where it needed to go, and when you have WR's who believe their QB can be a bit of a wild card at times .... that's the result you get.
You're forgetting all of the 2019 season. Remember all 3qrts of the B1G title game? That was some fun foreshadowing of how things went against Clemson. While Fields played ok at times, a couple of his turnovers (the one specifically to Isiah Simmons that I keep bringing up) was bush league. Keep this in mind - Fields struggled to beat Clemson's secondary which consisted most of the NFL linebackers. K'Von Wallace, Issiah Simmons and Tanner Muse are ALL NFL LB's now. Which was why calling the homerun shot soon to come by Joey Burrow was an easy one.
As for '20? I do remember those first 3 games. All against bottom 1/3 secondaries. Seeing a trend? I have to be consistent even if it's with my team. I gave the same knock to Johnny Manziel when we drafted him because in 2 season, he beat ONE top 50 defense and was kicked around by the rest.
You'll find no argument from me about JF's physical dimensions. He "looks" like an NFL QB. But that really doesn't mean a damn thing in the grand scheme. His holding onto the ball is indicative of pre-snap determinations, slow post snap processing and poor eye movement. As I said in my first paragraph, when teams started being talented enough to slow down Dobbins and force our QB to shoulder the load, he started to buckle. The same thing has happened this year. Twice indicates a trend...
And as for that WR "taking a wrong turn". Absolutely not. I remember that play well and broke it down on this very board (I'm pretty sure?) it was a Hitch-Po against cover 2. Olave broke to the post and split both safeties. It was a gimmie throw from most every future NFL QB. Fields stared at it, didn't deliver, and when he started to shuffle in the pocket for a throwing lane, Olave thought it was a scramble drill (as had been the previous few games) so he broke to where a dead spot should* have been. Sadly, instead of Fields working on sliding his feet and resetting in the pocket all year against lesser teams, he would routinely let his athletic ability bail him out or even worse, hold onto the ball for a sack. Peep those numbers by the way when you get a second. I believe 11 sacks on the year accredited to JF in 2019.
JF was late, didn't place the ball where it needed to go, and when you have WR's who believe their QB can be a bit of a wild card at times .... that's the result you get.
It was to the Post (supposed to be) UNLESS Fields scrambled out of the pocket. He didn’t. Interviews all over the place confirmed that.
Anyway a tough INT. Not uncharacteristically awful INT for a first year starter but obviously devastating given the circumstance.
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1... 2... 3... 4... I am going to go with at least 5...
I think I've read where Round 1 QBs are the best bet at about 50/50 and the odds only go down from there.
The search may be a long one, but you have to keep sifting until you find one. Of course it helps if you are not stupid, e.g., Wheezy, JFF, Lynch.
Round 1 is the place, there's no getting around that.
QB's are almost the antithesis to TE's in that respect. You just find so much talent at TE between 2-4 that's it's almost pointless to spend a 1st rounder on one.
Round 1 is the place, there's no getting around that.
QB's are almost the antithesis to TE's in that respect. You just find so much talent at TE between 2-4 that's it's almost pointless to spend a 1st rounder on one.
Someone dug up an analysis of draft history of success by position vs. round prior to the 2020 draft. I probably bookmarked it and will find it someday...
I do remember that the OL success did not correlate with the round a prospect was picked while QB was the most highly correlated.
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I’ll leave this alone...I’ve been more wrong with QBs than right.
But I know If you don’t have the long term answer at QB you better find it. This seems like a Good QB class to find it.
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You're forgetting all of the 2019 season. Remember all 3qrts of the B1G title game? That was some fun foreshadowing of how things went against Clemson. While Fields played ok at times, a couple of his turnovers (the one specifically to Isiah Simmons that I keep bringing up) was bush league. Keep this in mind - Fields struggled to beat Clemson's secondary which consisted most of the NFL linebackers. K'Von Wallace, Issiah Simmons and Tanner Muse are ALL NFL LB's now. Which was why calling the homerun shot soon to come by Joey Burrow was an easy one.
As for '20? I do remember those first 3 games. All against bottom 1/3 secondaries. Seeing a trend? I have to be consistent even if it's with my team. I gave the same knock to Johnny Manziel when we drafted him because in 2 season, he beat ONE top 50 defense and was kicked around by the rest.
You'll find no argument from me about JF's physical dimensions. He "looks" like an NFL QB. But that really doesn't mean a damn thing in the grand scheme. His holding onto the ball is indicative of pre-snap determinations, slow post snap processing and poor eye movement. As I said in my first paragraph, when teams started being talented enough to slow down Dobbins and force our QB to shoulder the load, he started to buckle. The same thing has happened this year. Twice indicates a trend...
And as for that WR "taking a wrong turn". Absolutely not. I remember that play well and broke it down on this very board (I'm pretty sure?) it was a Hitch-Po against cover 2. Olave broke to the post and split both safeties. It was a gimmie throw from most every future NFL QB. Fields stared at it, didn't deliver, and when he started to shuffle in the pocket for a throwing lane, Olave thought it was a scramble drill (as had been the previous few games) so he broke to where a dead spot should* have been. Sadly, instead of Fields working on sliding his feet and resetting in the pocket all year against lesser teams, he would routinely let his athletic ability bail him out or even worse, hold onto the ball for a sack. Peep those numbers by the way when you get a second. I believe 11 sacks on the year accredited to JF in 2019.
JF was late, didn't place the ball where it needed to go, and when you have WR's who believe their QB can be a bit of a wild card at times .... that's the result you get.
It was to the Post (supposed to be) UNLESS Fields scrambled out of the pocket. He didn’t. Interviews all over the place confirmed that.
Anyway a tough INT. Not uncharacteristically awful INT for a first year starter but obviously devastating given the circumstance.
It was to the Post (supposed to be) UNLESS Fields scrambled out of the pocket. He didn’t. Interviews all over the place confirmed that.
Anyway a tough INT. Not uncharacteristically awful INT for a first year starter but obviously devastating given the circumstance.
I'm petty.
JF kept "drifting" away from the center at this point, he reads the low hole drop shallow but instead of throwing to a spot and trusting his receiver, he waits for Olave to cross the face of the safety while moving his feet and drifting. He's got the window now, so set your feet and deliver.
This screenshot is when that ball should have been gone. That's an NFL throw, not "I'll throw it when it looks open". A "I see the window developing" anticipation throw.
Interviews can say all they want and good teammates won't throw each other under the bus. Leaders don't do that. Fortunately for me, I'm not on the team so I can call it as it is.
I'll get back with you on Chazz in 30.
P.S. since I have you boys here, why is there no Browns Board discord?
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It was to the Post (supposed to be) UNLESS Fields scrambled out of the pocket. He didn’t. Interviews all over the place confirmed that.
Anyway a tough INT. Not uncharacteristically awful INT for a first year starter but obviously devastating given the circumstance.
I'm petty.
JF kept "drifting" away from the center at this point, he reads the low hole drop shallow but instead of throwing to a spot and trusting his receiver, he waits for Olave to cross the face of the safety while moving his feet and drifting. He's got the window now, so set your feet and deliver.
This screenshot is when that ball should have been gone. That's an NFL throw, not "I'll throw it when it looks open". A "I see the window developing" anticipation throw.
Interviews can say all they want and good teammates won't throw each other under the bus. Leaders don't do that. Fortunately for me, I'm not on the team so I can call it as it is.
I'll get back with you on Chazz in 30.
P.S. since I have you boys here, why is there no Browns Board discord?
I'm petty.
JF kept "drifting" away from the center at this point, he reads the low hole drop shallow but instead of throwing to a spot and trusting his receiver, he waits for Olave to cross the face of the safety while moving his feet and drifting. He's got the window now, so set your feet and deliver.
This screenshot is when that ball should have been gone. That's an NFL throw, not "I'll throw it when it looks open". A "I see the window developing" anticipation throw.
Interviews can say all they want and good teammates won't throw each other under the bus. Leaders don't do that. Fortunately for me, I'm not on the team so I can call it as it is.
I'll get back with you on Chazz in 30.
P.S. since I have you boys here, why is there no Browns Board discord?
That's over in "the other" section.?
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I'm petty.
JF kept "drifting" away from the center at this point, he reads the low hole drop shallow but instead of throwing to a spot and trusting his receiver, he waits for Olave to cross the face of the safety while moving his feet and drifting. He's got the window now, so set your feet and deliver.
This screenshot is when that ball should have been gone. That's an NFL throw, not "I'll throw it when it looks open". A "I see the window developing" anticipation throw.
Interviews can say all they want and good teammates won't throw each other under the bus. Leaders don't do that. Fortunately for me, I'm not on the team so I can call it as it is.
I'll get back with you on Chazz in 30.
P.S. since I have you boys here, why is there no Browns Board discord?
That's over in "the other" section.?
That's over in "the other" section.?
I'm too sober to deal with that.
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I think PFF's OL grading is pretty good... at least that was my experience when once-upon-a-time I graded our OL. And, yes, Glasgow is a building block. Really liked him when a scouted him a few drafts ago.
Your QB question is a good one.
My answer is: Yes... until a better one comes along. Goes with my philosophy of you always need to be looking for your next QB. Only the intensity (and price you are willing to pay) vary.
It's why you take a Day 3 QB (or sign a UDFA) close to every year. There's almost always a "dark-horse" out there who has a shot. It's how NE came across TB12. It's like panning for gold.
It's why a Philly spends a 2nd on a Hurts when they have a Wentz.
Even explains a team taking two QBs in the same draft (WSH 2012... RG3 and Cousins).
Exactly. So I guess my point ends up coming back around on itself.
I don't believe Lock is their "long term" answer at this point. And outside of center, Denver's oline is pretty good. However I think it would be stupid for them to end up taking the 3rd or 4th QB in this draft (possibly Fields) because that really doesn't strike me as a winning strategy. At which point when Lawrence is picked #1, teams will have to basically convince themselves they love the next guy. How many times have we see this in the last decade alone? Gabbert, Bortles, Weeden, Manziel, Lynch, etc etc.
Exactly. So I guess my point ends up coming back around on itself.
I don't believe Lock is their "long term" answer at this point. And outside of center, Denver's oline is pretty good. However I think it would be stupid for them to end up taking the 3rd or 4th QB in this draft (possibly Fields) because that really doesn't strike me as a winning strategy. At which point when Lawrence is picked #1, teams will have to basically convince themselves they love the next guy. How many times have we see this in the last decade alone? Gabbert, Bortles, Weeden, Manziel, Lynch, etc etc.
Well, here are some guys that were "the next guy"...or the next guy after that
Lamar Jackson
Pat Mahomes
DeShaun
Phillip Rivers
Ben Roesthlisberger
Drew Brees
Brett Favre.
The next guy can be THE guy.
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* After tonight, just checking back in.
Wade is out of the 1st barring some dumb move by a GM or destroying the combine and convincing scouts it the coaches fault at tOSU.
Scouts are going to look twice at Fields spotty off-speed throwing when coming off his primary and most importantly - leading his targets into harms way (Battle's hit on Ruckert)
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* After tonight, just checking back in.
Wade is out of the 1st barring some dumb move by a GM or destroying the combine and convincing scouts it the coaches fault at tOSU.
Scouts are going to look twice at Fields spotty off-speed throwing when coming off his primary and most importantly - leading his targets into harms way (Battle's hit on Ruckert)
* After tonight, just checking back in.
Scouts are going to look twice at Fields spotty off-speed throwing when coming off his primary and most importantly - leading his targets into harms way (Battle's hit on Ruckert)
Well it appeared to me that the Heisman Trophy winner got knocked out of the game by a similar throw from Bama's QB. Fair to say?
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* After tonight, just checking back in.
Scouts are going to look twice at Fields spotty off-speed throwing when coming off his primary and most importantly - leading his targets into harms way (Battle's hit on Ruckert)
Well it appeared to me that the Heisman Trophy winner got knocked out of the game by a similar throw from Bama's QB. Fair to say?
Well it appeared to me that the Heisman Trophy winner got knocked out of the game by a similar throw from Bama's QB. Fair to say?
I was too fucked up to recall that specifically and I'm too hungover now to care at this moment. I'll come back to this later when I'm of sound mind and body.
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* After tonight, just checking back in.
Wade is out of the 1st barring some dumb move by a GM or destroying the combine and convincing scouts it the coaches fault at tOSU.
Scouts are going to look twice at Fields spotty off-speed throwing when coming off his primary and most importantly - leading his targets into harms way (Battle's hit on Ruckert)
* After tonight, just checking back in.
Wade is out of the 1st barring some dumb move by a GM or destroying the combine and convincing scouts it the coaches fault at tOSU.
Scouts are going to look twice at Fields spotty off-speed throwing when coming off his primary and most importantly - leading his targets into harms way (Battle's hit on Ruckert)
- First time I can remember seeing my HS's old 4-4-3 in a college game. WTF was up with that? For that reason only do I give Wade a shot scouts mitigate the damage down to his status.
- Seemed like only Buckeye defender that might have helped himself was Werner. Harrison did not hurt himself.
O-side?
- No telling the damage his injury did to Wyatt Davis' stock. Kid was being bandied about as a 1st rounder. And while not expected to come out in 2021, Josh Meyers did himself no favors.
- Olave is solid. Farrell may have helped himself the most throughout the playoffs.
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* After tonight, just checking back in.
Scouts are going to look twice at Fields spotty off-speed throwing when coming off his primary and most importantly - leading his targets into harms way (Battle's hit on Ruckert)
Well it appeared to me that the Heisman Trophy winner got knocked out of the game by a similar throw from Bama's QB. Fair to say?
Well it appeared to me that the Heisman Trophy winner got knocked out of the game by a similar throw from Bama's QB. Fair to say?
He certainly led him that way, but it was the bobbling of the catch that kept Smith from avoiding, or at least preparing for, Werner's hit... which really wasn't all that vicious.
I think Smith's hand/finger just got bent the wrong way in the pancake that followed.
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When you have a question about a sports injury,
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When you have a question about a sports injury,
is usually pretty good.When you have a question about a sports injury,
is usually pretty good.Thanks... I've seen that before. Good speculation, but it is just that.
One thing I use, even tho info is limited unless you pay, is https://sportsinjurypredictor.com/ The site uses past injury histories to project durability.
I look at the histories of FAs and potential draft picks.The cost part involves the projections for season-long, $$$'s will change hands, FF leagues.
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Not that any of this is realistic, but I like that trades have been disabled. Too many people make trades like it is some fantasy game. At least this way you get stuck with who is available, much like a real draft. It doesn't become plucking all the premium players or all OSU players.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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