Miami pissed off at Pittsburgh?
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Zombo said:
No maybe about it. They wanted their stars healthy for the playoffs. That is winning football. Bills won anyway so it paid off, they wouldn't have had home field over the Bills anyway, and they got Ben and some key starters rest since their bye unexpectedly came early in the season. They weren't concerned with who their opponent was going to be, they wanted to be healthy for their playoff run and I don't know anyone that has a problem with it, outside of maybe you.
Z
What I am saying is that whatever the motivation.....be it having people ready for the playoffs, or putting themselves in position for a higher draft pick, the action of sitting the personnel that may likely give them a better chance to win that game is in each case one of possibly tanking a game for an external purpose.
And by "see above" I meant see what I said about the Steelers possibly, actually being concerned who their playoff opponent would be and taking steps to assure it would the Browns. Sure...Wild Ass speculation......but it is sure a more plausible conspiratorial theory than believing that Trump won the election....or that there were ancient aliens; or that we didn't land on the moon; or Sasquatch etc.
(Oh...and Joe Judge had a bigger problem with it than I had....as I am not even saying I have a problem with it. I just threw this hypothesis out for discussion because I did hear about his problem...and because it harkened back to 2007)
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Zombo said:
No one feels sorry for the Dolphins, and their fans are not pissed off at us or the Steelers. Anytime you have a "win and in" situation and you get crushed, you've got more work to do.
No, the Giants didn't deserve to be in the playoffs at 6-10, but I think the whole NFL world has got a legitmate beef with Doug Pederson and the Eagles. He treated it like a preseason game and wanted to get Sudfield "some snaps". WTF is that? These other teams are playing for their football lives. Tomlin smartly rested some key players for the playoffs but they gave 100% with the guys they had. Pederson "was getting guys reps", didn't even have some of his best players active, because he knew he was coming back next year ... Total Trash, I hope the Giants, and everybody else, drill him next year.
Zombo
They'll have a target on their backs as big as Supermans Logo S..
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Miami wanted to see what they had in Tua. Well, they saw. They were surviving off their defense, but the Bills' offense is better. End of story.
Miami wanted to see what they had in Tua. Well, they saw. They were surviving off their defense, but the Bills' offense is better. End of story.
I'm not all that impressed with Tua and his noodle arm...
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Miami wanted to see what they had in Tua. Well, they saw. They were surviving off their defense, but the Bills' offense is better. End of story.
I'm not all that impressed with Tua and his noodle arm...
I'm not all that impressed with Tua and his noodle arm...
Coming off the injury he had he looked better than I expected.
Jury is not in yet, but he looked the part of an NFL starter to me in the couple Fin games I saw.
As for noodle-arm... he's chucked the pigskin 55+ yards both at BAMA and for the Fins. It's just that he mostly throws with touch and anticipation... things a certain #6 needs to show more frequently.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Miami wanted to see what they had in Tua. Well, they saw. They were surviving off their defense, but the Bills' offense is better. End of story.
I'm not all that impressed with Tua and his noodle arm...
I'm not all that impressed with Tua and his noodle arm...
They just used the number five overall draft pick last year on him. Do you want them to pick somebody else this year? You know that they have the number three pick which they traded for with Houston.
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I'm not all that impressed with Tua and his noodle arm...
Coming off the injury he had he looked better than I expected.
Jury is not in yet, but he looked the part of an NFL starter to me in the couple Fin games I saw.
As for noodle-arm... he's chucked the pigskin 55+ yards both at BAMA and for the Fins. It's just that he mostly throws with touch and anticipation... things a certain #6 needs to show more frequently.
Coming off the injury he had he looked better than I expected.
Jury is not in yet, but he looked the part of an NFL starter to me in the couple Fin games I saw.
As for noodle-arm... he's chucked the pigskin 55+ yards both at BAMA and for the Fins. It's just that he mostly throws with touch and anticipation... things a certain #6 needs to show more frequently.
Puhleeze... 6 will be fine...
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They just used the number five overall draft pick last year on him. Do you want them to pick somebody else this year? You know that they have the number three pick which they traded for with Houston.
That's their problem... Not impressed...
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Zombo said:
The guy has been with the team for four years, they didn't need any more tape on him, Hurts is the guy you want to develop, put him in a game-winning situation, don't bench him so you can "give snaps" to a loyal henchman. Besides, you are playing a division rival, you want to win all of those games, he did the fans and the league a disservice.
Zombo
Hurts is their guy. They also have him at a very decent price. His playstyle at qb is conducive to injuries. So why not get some live bullets flying at the guy you think may be a backup to see how he performs. Then you are in a better position to know whether you need to go out and spend a little of that money you save going with hurts and dumping Wentz on a vet backup like a Case Keenum, nick Foles etc or if you have confidence in nate sudfeld to come in if needed so that money can go elsewhere.
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Zombo said:
The guy has been with the team for four years, they didn't need any more tape on him, Hurts is the guy you want to develop, put him in a game-winning situation, don't bench him so you can "give snaps" to a loyal henchman. Besides, you are playing a division rival, you want to win all of those games, he did the fans and the league a disservice.
Zombo
Hurts is their guy. They also have him at a very decent price. His playstyle at qb is conducive to injuries. So why not get some live bullets flying at the guy you think may be a backup to see how he performs. Then you are in a better position to know whether you need to go out and spend a little of that money you save going with hurts and dumping Wentz on a vet backup like a Case Keenum, nick Foles etc or if you have confidence in nate sudfeld to come in if needed so that money can go elsewhere.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Zombo said:
The guy has been with the team for four years, they didn't need any more tape on him, Hurts is the guy you want to develop, put him in a game-winning situation, don't bench him so you can "give snaps" to a loyal henchman. Besides, you are playing a division rival, you want to win all of those games, he did the fans and the league a disservice.
Zombo
Tanking if you want to call it that Z, but the Eagles weren't making the playoffs regardless. So I can see the logic of not trying too hard in the last game to improve your draft slot. Sorry the Giants are all butthurt about it. There's no guarantee Philly would have won even if Pederson had played Hurts the entire game anyway.
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Zombo said:
The guy has been with the team for four years, they didn't need any more tape on him, Hurts is the guy you want to develop, put him in a game-winning situation, don't bench him so you can "give snaps" to a loyal henchman. Besides, you are playing a division rival, you want to win all of those games, he did the fans and the league a disservice.
Zombo
Tanking if you want to call it that Z, but the Eagles weren't making the playoffs regardless. So I can see the logic of not trying too hard in the last game to improve your draft slot. Sorry the Giants are all butthurt about it. There's no guarantee Philly would have won even if Pederson had played Hurts the entire game anyway.
Tanking if you want to call it that Z, but the Eagles weren't making the playoffs regardless. So I can see the logic of not trying too hard in the last game to improve your draft slot. Sorry the Giants are all butthurt about it. There's no guarantee Philly would have won even if Pederson had played Hurts the entire game anyway.
Do you think the Browns would have lost had BR played Sunday?
Nevertheless......It seems that the Football Gods are conspiring against the Browns now.
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I really don't understand where NYG gets off presuming their thoughts matter regarding Philly's ingame choices. Philly has no OL and doesn't want to kill one of their QB's for next season.
If the Giants want to complain about something, it's their own offense that needs to score more points.. and their GM Gettleman needs to stop failing on draft day.
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Zombo said:
Because the Steelers were trying to improve their chances in the playoffs.
Z
So, you're saying that the Steelers rested players against us because they wanted to lose to us so that they could play us in the playoffs instead of the Ravens or Colts.
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Zombo said:
Because the Steelers were trying to improve their chances in the playoffs.
Z
So, you're saying that the Steelers rested players against us because they wanted to lose to us so that they could play us in the playoffs instead of the Ravens or Colts.
So, you're saying that the Steelers rested players against us because they wanted to lose to us so that they could play us in the playoffs instead of the Ravens or Colts.
That IS a theory that I came up with. It would take some clever and devious thinking to have come up with that. And with the new developments of today, if that were so, it could be considered genius.
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