Week 18: Browns vs Steelers Wild Card Game
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Is it true that Ben called his own plays that half?
That is the word on the street. Randy sucks but Ben loves him. We haven't had a legit offensive coordinator in a long time. Hell I can't even think of a "Rockstar" oc for the steelers since I've been alive. Whis wasn't bad, Arians was okay but both guys had their issues. It's funny because with the amount of success Tomlin has had you would think he would have more of a coaching tree. We have had a long run of just okay offensive coordinators. Lebeau was obviously a staple on the other side and butler was the heir apparent. If Ben goes no huddle it's usually him drawing in the sand but yea he ran the o on his own second half of the Colts and they dominated. ?
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Any given sunday but our back ups even with the browns missing guys giving you all a run doesn't bode well. Highsmith is very advanced for a rookie, incredibly so and Watt and Heyward will be back in the line up. It's going to be pretty tough sledding just for a pressure stand point alone. Unfortunately we aren't going to have Haden back but you all lost vernon so that's kind of a wash despite the difference in positions. I also believe a lack of playoff experience will play a role and of course playing on the road even with minimized fan numbers. We are going to find out and again any given sunday bangs like a giant gong but if i were to remove bias I don't like the Browns chances either. No matter what the Browns are headed in the right direction and really thats all that matters because they IMO don't have what it takes to win a Super Bowl this season.
they ain't going to the sb....this is a building yr and they still went 11-5....not a rebuild but a building block....they don't need any offensive draft picks....now the building block is on the defensive side....so look out....that is all we need....then we will be talking sb...and as far as the steelers go....they have no running game and that will haunt them in the playoffs...dey ain't goin to the sb either.....big ben is juuuuuuust about finished with his career....
they ain't going to the sb....this is a building yr and they still went 11-5....not a rebuild but a building block....they don't need any offensive draft picks....now the building block is on the defensive side....so look out....that is all we need....then we will be talking sb...and as far as the steelers go....they have no running game and that will haunt them in the playoffs...dey ain't goin to the sb either.....big ben is juuuuuuust about finished with his career....
I guess you are gonna find out, aren't ya? Ben isn't done. I was almost there before the Colts game and he was unstoppable in the second half. He is limited by our offensive coordinator. If they play like they did second half of the Colts they are making a deep run. The defense is elite and even with a flawed run game (a lot of it is our terrible oc) we have a ton of weapons.
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they ain't going to the sb....this is a building yr and they still went 11-5....not a rebuild but a building block....they don't need any offensive draft picks....now the building block is on the defensive side....so look out....that is all we need....then we will be talking sb...and as far as the steelers go....they have no running game and that will haunt them in the playoffs...dey ain't goin to the sb either.....big ben is juuuuuuust about finished with his career....
I guess you are gonna find out, aren't ya? Ben isn't done. I was almost there before the Colts game and he was unstoppable in the second half. He is limited by our offensive coordinator. If they play like they did second half of the Colts they are making a deep run. The defense is elite and even with a flawed run game (a lot of it is our terrible oc) we have a ton of weapons.
I guess you are gonna find out, aren't ya? Ben isn't done. I was almost there before the Colts game and he was unstoppable in the second half. He is limited by our offensive coordinator. If they play like they did second half of the Colts they are making a deep run. The defense is elite and even with a flawed run game (a lot of it is our terrible oc) we have a ton of weapons.
The Steelers should beat any of the wild card teams (Browns included), but will get their ass handed to them by Buffalo or KC.
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I guess you are gonna find out, aren't ya? Ben isn't done. I was almost there before the Colts game and he was unstoppable in the second half. He is limited by our offensive coordinator. If they play like they did second half of the Colts they are making a deep run. The defense is elite and even with a flawed run game (a lot of it is our terrible oc) we have a ton of weapons.
The Steelers should beat any of the wild card teams (Browns included), but will get their ass handed to them by Buffalo or KC.
The Steelers should beat any of the wild card teams (Browns included), but will get their ass handed to them by Buffalo or KC.
Based on what? Our defense stacks with anyone and that isn't even up for debate. Our offense just needs to sustain drives. The Steelers as of now have a 5-2 record against AFC playoff teams this season. The chiefs have only played 2 AFC playoff teams thus far. If Ben is rolling and the offense is sustaining drives they can beat the bills AND the chiefs. I've said it several times and i will say it again. I don't think some of you appreciate just how fucked the Steelers season was this year. Forced bye week in week 4 and even then it wasn't determined to be a bye early so it wasn't even a full break. They then played from week 4 all the way until now without a break and had a three game stretch in 12 days. One game at a time but a steeler team firing on all cylinders can beat any team in the league, we have the roster and the talent.
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And the Injury Reports...
Aside from the Covid kids, Vernon and Harris... not looking too bad.
Richardson is key this week IMO.
Looks like a lot of misinformation in PTG's... e.g., Ben's...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
And the Injury Reports...
Aside from the Covid kids, Vernon and Harris... not looking too bad.
Richardson is key this week IMO.
Looks like a lot of misinformation in PTG's... e.g., Ben's...
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The Steelers should beat any of the wild card teams (Browns included), but will get their ass handed to them by Buffalo or KC.
Based on what? Our defense stacks with anyone and that isn't even up for debate. Our offense just needs to sustain drives. The Steelers as of now have a 5-2 record against AFC playoff teams this season. The chiefs have only played 2 AFC playoff teams thus far. If Ben is rolling and the offense is sustaining drives they can beat the bills AND the chiefs. I've said it several times and i will say it again. I don't think some of you appreciate just how fucked the Steelers season was this year. Forced bye week in week 4 and even then it wasn't determined to be a bye early so it wasn't even a full break. They then played from week 4 all the way until now without a break and had a three game stretch in 12 days. One game at a time but a steeler team firing on all cylinders can beat any team in the league, we have the roster and the talent.
Based on what? Our defense stacks with anyone and that isn't even up for debate. Our offense just needs to sustain drives. The Steelers as of now have a 5-2 record against AFC playoff teams this season. The chiefs have only played 2 AFC playoff teams thus far. If Ben is rolling and the offense is sustaining drives they can beat the bills AND the chiefs. I've said it several times and i will say it again. I don't think some of you appreciate just how fucked the Steelers season was this year. Forced bye week in week 4 and even then it wasn't determined to be a bye early so it wasn't even a full break. They then played from week 4 all the way until now without a break and had a three game stretch in 12 days. One game at a time but a steeler team firing on all cylinders can beat any team in the league, we have the roster and the talent.
Keep dreaming. No team that can't run the ball for more than like 30 yards per game is going to go very far in the playoffs. They will have a hard enough time against the depleted Browns.....and likely slim to none against the Bills, or Chiefs or Ravens or Titans.
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Based on what? Our defense stacks with anyone and that isn't even up for debate. Our offense just needs to sustain drives. The Steelers as of now have a 5-2 record against AFC playoff teams this season. The chiefs have only played 2 AFC playoff teams thus far. If Ben is rolling and the offense is sustaining drives they can beat the bills AND the chiefs. I've said it several times and i will say it again. I don't think some of you appreciate just how fucked the Steelers season was this year. Forced bye week in week 4 and even then it wasn't determined to be a bye early so it wasn't even a full break. They then played from week 4 all the way until now without a break and had a three game stretch in 12 days. One game at a time but a steeler team firing on all cylinders can beat any team in the league, we have the roster and the talent.
Keep dreaming. No team that can't run the ball for more than like 30 yards per game is going to go very far in the playoffs. They will have a hard enough time against the depleted Browns.....and likely slim to none against the Bills, or Chiefs or Ravens or Titans.
Keep dreaming. No team that can't run the ball for more than like 30 yards per game is going to go very far in the playoffs. They will have a hard enough time against the depleted Browns.....and likely slim to none against the Bills, or Chiefs or Ravens or Titans.
The run game woes are part of the team being run down and injuries across the line, also randy's unimaginative play calling. I don't need to dream, i saw how they played in the second half of the colts game and that was enough for me. They fried a very solid defense and did it with ease. If it goes any different than your above prediction i expect you to be in here eating handfuls of your bs. I will certainly be in here for my licks too.
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Keep dreaming. No team that can't run the ball for more than like 30 yards per game is going to go very far in the playoffs. They will have a hard enough time against the depleted Browns.....and likely slim to none against the Bills, or Chiefs or Ravens or Titans.
The run game woes are part of the team being run down and injuries across the line, also randy's unimaginative play calling. I don't need to dream, i saw how they played in the second half of the colts game and that was enough for me. They fried a very solid defense and did it with ease. If it goes any different than your above prediction i expect you to be in here eating handfuls of your bs. I will certainly be in here for my licks too.
The run game woes are part of the team being run down and injuries across the line, also randy's unimaginative play calling. I don't need to dream, i saw how they played in the second half of the colts game and that was enough for me. They fried a very solid defense and did it with ease. If it goes any different than your above prediction i expect you to be in here eating handfuls of your bs. I will certainly be in here for my licks too.
The run game woes are a result of not have very good RBs.
And yes, you ARE dreaming. You may get past the Browns, but those other teams will A. Not be depleted and B. Are just better
If you go up against Buffalo, they will beat you like a rented mule.
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The run game woes are part of the team being run down and injuries across the line, also randy's unimaginative play calling. I don't need to dream, i saw how they played in the second half of the colts game and that was enough for me. They fried a very solid defense and did it with ease. If it goes any different than your above prediction i expect you to be in here eating handfuls of your bs. I will certainly be in here for my licks too.
The run game woes are a result of not have very good RBs.
And yes, you ARE dreaming. You may get past the Browns, but those other teams will A. Not be depleted and B. Are just better
If you go up against Buffalo, they will beat you like a rented mule.
The run game woes are a result of not have very good RBs.
And yes, you ARE dreaming. You may get past the Browns, but those other teams will A. Not be depleted and B. Are just better
If you go up against Buffalo, they will beat you like a rented mule.
Please, it has very little to do with Connor or snell. The team has been run down, injuries along the offensive line and again our oc sucks. Connor has had plenty of success, he's just has a hard time staying healthy.
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The run game woes are a result of not have very good RBs.
And yes, you ARE dreaming. You may get past the Browns, but those other teams will A. Not be depleted and B. Are just better
If you go up against Buffalo, they will beat you like a rented mule.
Please, it has very little to do with Connor or snell. The team has been run down, injuries along the offensive line and again our oc sucks. Connor has had plenty of success, he's just has a hard time staying healthy.
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The Steelers should beat any of the wild card teams (Browns included), but will get their ass handed to them by Buffalo or KC.
Based on what? Our defense stacks with anyone and that isn't even up for debate. Our offense just needs to sustain drives. The Steelers as of now have a 5-2 record against AFC playoff teams this season. The chiefs have only played 2 AFC playoff teams thus far. If Ben is rolling and the offense is sustaining drives they can beat the bills AND the chiefs. I've said it several times and i will say it again. I don't think some of you appreciate just how fucked the Steelers season was this year. Forced bye week in week 4 and even then it wasn't determined to be a bye early so it wasn't even a full break. They then played from week 4 all the way until now without a break and had a three game stretch in 12 days. One game at a time but a steeler team firing on all cylinders can beat any team in the league, we have the roster and the talent.
Based on what?
Oh....I don’t know, maybe it could based on the fact you guys don’t have a running game, and are dead last in rushing yards per game.
I watched the Bills hold Conner to 18 yards rushing on 10 carries, and then pinned their ears back and go after Ben.
If you think Rapistberger will carry the team on his shoulders to the SB, you’re delusional.
Even the pundits on the NFL Network have the Ratbirds ranked higher than the Steelers.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Based on what?
Oh....I don’t know, maybe it could based on the fact you guys don’t have a running game, and are dead last in rushing yards per game.
I watched the Bills hold Conner to 18 yards rushing on 10 carries, and then pinned their ears back and go after Ben.
If you think Rapistberger will carry the team on his shoulders to the SB, you’re delusional.
Even the pundits on the NFL Network have the Ratbirds ranked higher than the Steelers.
you think Rapistberger will carry the team on his shoulders to the SB, you’re delusional.
Even the pundits on the NFL Network have the Ratbirds ranked higher than the Steelers.
I would agree with you, but Ben has been here a zillion times and I've learned that the Steelers typically do well in the post season. Watt is going to murder us. Losing Bitonio means we can't run the ball (see results of games missing Teller). We still don't have a vertical threat, so they'll just crowd the field and plug up everything. Add in the fact that we're without our coaches and it's a recipe for making easy money on Fanduel.
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Based on what?
Oh....I don’t know, maybe it could based on the fact you guys don’t have a running game, and are dead last in rushing yards per game.
I watched the Bills hold Conner to 18 yards rushing on 10 carries, and then pinned their ears back and go after Ben.
If you think Rapistberger will carry the team on his shoulders to the SB, you’re delusional.
Even the pundits on the NFL Network have the Ratbirds ranked higher than the Steelers.
Even the pundits on the NFL Network have the Ratbirds ranked higher than the Steelers.
The other side of my brain has something to say too. The Steelers are not coming into this game on a high note. They've lost 4-5, and if not for a spectacular comeback vs Indy, would be stuck in a 5 game losing streak, with losses to Washington and Cincy minus Burrow. I will say that the Bengals loss was bizarre and Cincy was absolutely on fire. They were making crazy 3rd down passes in between 3 defenders, qb rushes, great catches, and whatever else. It was a magical Bengal game and the Steelers got caught.
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Not many are giving the Browns a chance on Sunday. I for one like being the under"DAWGS" ; puts ALOT of pressure on Pitt since they supposedly should handle us easily with all our injuries and COVID related players/coaches that are out for Sunday. Kind of like last week where we had to win to get in, all the pressure was on us. Nothing scarier than backing a injured DAWG in a corner, they fight like hell! Should be a good one Sunday! Playoffs, feels good! It won't be easy, but we CAN win! Any given Sunday!
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you think Rapistberger will carry the team on his shoulders to the SB, you’re delusional.
Even the pundits on the NFL Network have the Ratbirds ranked higher than the Steelers.
I would agree with you, but Ben has been here a zillion times and I've learned that the Steelers typically do well in the post season. Watt is going to murder us. Losing Bitonio means we can't run the ball (see results of games missing Teller). We still don't have a vertical threat, so they'll just crowd the field and plug up everything. Add in the fact that we're without our coaches and it's a recipe for making easy money on Fanduel.
I would agree with you, but Ben has been here a zillion times and I've learned that the Steelers typically do well in the post season. Watt is going to murder us. Losing Bitonio means we can't run the ball (see results of games missing Teller). We still don't have a vertical threat, so they'll just crowd the field and plug up everything. Add in the fact that we're without our coaches and it's a recipe for making easy money on Fanduel.
Buffalo laid the groundwork for beating the non running dink & dunk Steelers.
They got physical with the WR’s on the line, which also gave their pass rush a blink of a second longer to get to Ben.
In that game Ben was 21/37 for 187 yards with 2 TD’s & 2 picks, and had a team total of 47 yards running the ball.
That offense isn’t scaring anyone.
Pittsburgh got to the playoffs via their defense, but quite honestly if the Bills can score against them....Mahomes & Co will have a field day.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
I would agree with you, but Ben has been here a zillion times and I've learned that the Steelers typically do well in the post season. Watt is going to murder us. Losing Bitonio means we can't run the ball (see results of games missing Teller). We still don't have a vertical threat, so they'll just crowd the field and plug up everything. Add in the fact that we're without our coaches and it's a recipe for making easy money on Fanduel.
Buffalo laid the groundwork for beating the non running dink & dunk Steelers.
They got physical with the WR’s on the line, which also gave their pass rush a blink of a second longer to get to Ben.
In that game Ben was 21/37 for 187 yards with 2 TD’s & 2 picks, and had a team total of 47 yards running the ball.
That offense isn’t scaring anyone.
Pittsburgh got to the playoffs via their defense, but quite honestly if the Bills can score against them....Mahomes & Co will have a field day.
Buffalo laid the groundwork for beating the non running dink & dunk Steelers.
They got physical with the WR’s on the line, which also gave their pass rush a blink of a second longer to get to Ben.
In that game Ben was 21/37 for 187 yards with 2 TD’s & 2 picks, and had a team total of 47 yards running the ball.
That offense isn’t scaring anyone.
Pittsburgh got to the playoffs via their defense, but quite honestly if the Bills can score against them....Mahomes & Co will have a field day.
I totally hear ya. Really, if we had Vernon and Bitonio, I could probably talk myself into a competitive game with us having a decent chance, but losing them is so painful.
Ben is going to dink like you said, which means we'll have to tackle. Problem is, we have Mack Wilson. Now, Goodson is back which is nice, but we're REALLY going to have to tackle well if we're going to have a chance in hell here. Don't forget, Ben leads the league in how quickly he gets rid of the ball. That hurts, big time. And we can say the Steelers dink and dunk, but let's not forget that the two times we played them this year they KILLED us in the vertical passing game. Ben did and so did Mason.
Let's not kid ourselves though. The game comes down to our offense. Last game Watt absolutely murdered us and kept timing the snap count at the end of the play clock because we couldn't snap the ball on time or get the plays in quickly. I can't imagine things will be better without our coach, but here's to hoping. If we score tds and keep them off the field, we got a chance. We get down early...forget about it.
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Buffalo laid the groundwork for beating the non running dink & dunk Steelers.
They got physical with the WR’s on the line, which also gave their pass rush a blink of a second longer to get to Ben.
In that game Ben was 21/37 for 187 yards with 2 TD’s & 2 picks, and had a team total of 47 yards running the ball.
That offense isn’t scaring anyone.
Pittsburgh got to the playoffs via their defense, but quite honestly if the Bills can score against them....Mahomes & Co will have a field day.
I totally hear ya. Really, if we had Vernon and Bitonio, I could probably talk myself into a competitive game with us having a decent chance, but losing them is so painful.
Ben is going to dink like you said, which means we'll have to tackle. Problem is, we have Mack Wilson. Now, Goodson is back which is nice, but we're REALLY going to have to tackle well if we're going to have a chance in hell here. Don't forget, Ben leads the league in how quickly he gets rid of the ball. That hurts, big time. And we can say the Steelers dink and dunk, but let's not forget that the two times we played them this year they KILLED us in the vertical passing game. Ben did and so did Mason.
Let's not kid ourselves though. The game comes down to our offense. Last game Watt absolutely murdered us and kept timing the snap count at the end of the play clock because we couldn't snap the ball on time or get the plays in quickly. I can't imagine things will be better without our coach, but here's to hoping. If we score tds and keep them off the field, we got a chance. We get down early...forget about it.
I totally hear ya. Really, if we had Vernon and Bitonio, I could probably talk myself into a competitive game with us having a decent chance, but losing them is so painful.
Ben is going to dink like you said, which means we'll have to tackle. Problem is, we have Mack Wilson. Now, Goodson is back which is nice, but we're REALLY going to have to tackle well if we're going to have a chance in hell here. Don't forget, Ben leads the league in how quickly he gets rid of the ball. That hurts, big time. And we can say the Steelers dink and dunk, but let's not forget that the two times we played them this year they KILLED us in the vertical passing game. Ben did and so did Mason.
Let's not kid ourselves though. The game comes down to our offense. Last game Watt absolutely murdered us and kept timing the snap count at the end of the play clock because we couldn't snap the ball on time or get the plays in quickly. I can't imagine things will be better without our coach, but here's to hoping. If we score tds and keep them off the field, we got a chance. We get down early...forget about it.
Bring the house!!! Try to disrupt his throws. Not in Woods DNA but he needs to change for this one.
You are right...we can’t tackle. We have a set of backers and secondary that aren’t very good tackling collectively as a group.
And then of course broken record again but ball control offense is a defensive strategy in this one too.
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There are lots of reasons for us to be optimistic. I had thrown the towel in when Stephanski was tested positive. But I've recovered from that once I realized that Van Pelt is perfectly capable of running this offense. Hell it might even be a bonus is some ways.. So many coaches rely on analytics to call plays, based on the data they get from opposing coaches and other players. I am sure they had a whole game plan based On Stephanski's tendencies.. that all gets somewhat tossed out the window. If Stephanski and Van Pelt are smart, they should let Van Pelt be the lead on creating the game plan this week.. Really toss a wrench in their analytics planning.
But apart from that, I think last Sunday's game was a setup.. I can't remember who he is, but he is a news person that has a round table chat with Mary Kay Cabot. He suggested on Friday before the game last week that Stephanski and company MIGHT hold a lot of their best offensive plays back in the chance that we would be facing the Steelers in the Wild Card game.. I found the play calling last week to be puzzling at best and down right infuriating at times... With the 2 best running back in the league we are running 5 wide out sets with and empty back field!!???
But the more I watch the tape, I think he has been setting up whomever we would have faced in the first round for at least the last 3 weeks.. It's like we don't have two of the best RB's in the game if you watched those games.... I think we come out running and running and running and running.. And hope our defense can keep early scoring to a minimum from the Steelers.. Commit to the run and the long game.. Wear them down and control the clock and keep Ben off the field late in the game.
I fear if we put this on Baker's shoulders he is going to sadly disappoint us all. Their pass rush is to good and Bakers sucks under pressure.. Commit to the run.
Lastly is the pressure factor... We DID IT.. We made it to the playoffs. I feel a certain amount of relief after our win last week.. We are in Gravy land... Pittsburgh has a lot of pressure on them to win out. With a 10-0 start(or was it 11-0?) they were the hands on favorite to face the Chiefs at the AFC championship.... now they are 12-4 and coming off of a stretch of 1 win in 5 games(almost losing all 5)...... That is a lot of pressure and frees our team up to play lose and say FUCK IT and play all out....
I am going to go out on a limb and say we win 28-17...
Go BROWNS!! Either way I am so proud of this team and can't wait to see what happens next year.. Can't remember the last time I felt that way. Including 2003..
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