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Week 18: Browns vs Steelers Wild Card Game

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  • @sdbacker80 said:

    And then of course broken record again but ball control offense is a defensive strategy in this one too.

    And that's what hurts. Losing Bitonio is absolutely crushing. I'm going to tell you a story. The story does not have a happy ending. A few years ago, we had to play a 1st round draft pick named Cam Irving. I believe he played center during this story, and he was tasked with going up against Cam Hayward. Now, this did not go well. In fact, it went poorly. I remember watching Cam Irving getting his ass BLOWN apart by Heyward. He didn't just struggle, he was ABYSMAL. There were gifs floating around the web of Irving FLYING backwards and just getting owned. 

    Why is this important? Because not only is Bitonio out (who never played well against Steelers), but his backup is out. And then HIS backup is out. What's worse? We haven't even PRACTICED YET. Now, maybe we practiced today, I don't know, but we didn't yesterday. How can we get in a groove if we can't practice again? Ugh. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    And that's what hurts. Losing Bitonio is absolutely crushing. I'm going to tell you a story. The story does not have a happy ending. A few years ago, we had to play a 1st round draft pick named Cam Irving. I believe he played center during this story, and he was tasked with going up against Cam Hayward. Now, this did not go well. In fact, it went poorly. I remember watching Cam Irving getting his ass BLOWN apart by Heyward. He didn't just struggle, he was ABYSMAL. There were gifs floating around the web of Irving FLYING backwards and just getting owned. 

    Why is this important? Because not only is Bitonio out (who never played well against Steelers), but his backup is out. And then HIS backup is out. What's worse? We haven't even PRACTICED YET. Now, maybe we practiced today, I don't know, but we didn't yesterday. How can we get in a groove if we can't practice again? Ugh. 

    Points taken.

    This to me is a superstar game and it’s why you have them.   Myles who hasn’t been right lately shows up big against a guy he does well against.  He’s a game wrecker.  He needs to wreck the Steelers game plan....prevent scoring drives 

    On the other side Chubb...that big run Sunday where he brought Minkah to his knees do it again and again this Sunday night.

    Lastly and for the reasons I mentioned above ...Baker...loose, and free and playing against the odds Baker - showing out and showing up big.  

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Even the pundits on the NFL Network have the Ratbirds ranked higher than the Steelers.

    The other side of my brain has something to say too. The Steelers are not coming into this game on a high note. They've lost 4-5, and if not for a spectacular comeback vs Indy, would be stuck in a 5 game losing streak, with losses to Washington and Cincy minus Burrow. I will say that the Bengals loss was bizarre and Cincy was absolutely on fire. They were making crazy 3rd down passes in between 3 defenders, qb rushes, great catches, and whatever else. It was a magical Bengal game and the Steelers got caught. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    The other side of my brain has something to say too. The Steelers are not coming into this game on a high note. They've lost 4-5, and if not for a spectacular comeback vs Indy, would be stuck in a 5 game losing streak, with losses to Washington and Cincy minus Burrow. I will say that the Bengals loss was bizarre and Cincy was absolutely on fire. They were making crazy 3rd down passes in between 3 defenders, qb rushes, great catches, and whatever else. It was a magical Bengal game and the Steelers got caught. 

    what's really amazing - the Bengals have a udfa and late round pick at cb, late round picks at lb, and not one first or second round pick on the dline, I think that's right. But their two safeties are both 2nd rounders. Cincy played one hell of a game. Gives me a better idea about the Browns chances at winning this big game coming up.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Keep dreaming.    No team that can't run the ball for more than like 30 yards per game is going to go very far in the playoffs.   They will have a hard enough time against the depleted Browns.....and likely slim to none against the Bills, or Chiefs or Ravens or Titans.  

    The run game woes are part of the team being run down and injuries across the line, also randy's unimaginative play calling.  I don't need to dream, i saw how they played in the second half of the colts game and that was enough for me.  They fried a very solid defense and did it with ease. If it goes any different than your above prediction i expect you to be in here eating handfuls of your bs.  I will certainly be in here for my licks too. 

    @vagitron said:

      I don't need to dream, i saw how they played in the second half of the colts game and that was enough for me. 

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    As long as the weather holds you can be right... but what are odds of that happening in January?

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    I totally hear ya. Really, if we had Vernon and Bitonio, I could probably talk myself into a competitive game with us having a decent chance, but losing them is so painful. 

    Ben is going to dink like you said, which means we'll have to tackle. Problem is, we have Mack Wilson. Now, Goodson is back which is nice, but we're REALLY going to have to tackle well if we're going to have a chance in hell here. Don't forget, Ben leads the league in how quickly he gets rid of the ball. That hurts, big time. And we can say the Steelers dink and dunk, but let's not forget that the two times we played them this year they KILLED us in the vertical passing game. Ben did and so did Mason. 

    Let's not kid ourselves though. The game comes down to our offense. Last game Watt absolutely murdered us and kept timing the snap count at the end of the play clock because we couldn't snap the ball on time or get the plays in quickly. I can't imagine things will be better without our coach, but here's to hoping. If we score tds and keep them off the field, we got a chance. We get down early...forget about it. 

    Bring the house!!! Try to disrupt his throws.  Not in Woods DNA but he needs to change for this one.

      You are right...we can’t tackle.  We have a set of backers and secondary that aren’t very good tackling collectively as a group. 

    And then of course broken record again but ball control offense is a defensive strategy in this one too.

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Try to disrupt his throws.

    Forget the house... ^ this...

    The DL can't get there if he's throwing short, so follow his eyes into the passing lanes and go tip drill on his ass.

  • Bad news first...

    Hadn't seen it posted yet, but Harrison is OUT.

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    PTG's report looks a little more normal, but I did not copy the strange remnants from Sunday's "rest starters" mode.

    Ebron is OUT and JuJu is nicked.

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  • Meanwhile in practice-land...

    Surprised to see a report for us as I thought we went virtual, but here it is...

    Looks like Wed's was copy/pasted...

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    Mostly good news for our opponent. Lone exception as mentioned above is JuJu.

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  • @browns52 said:

    they ain't going to the sb....this is a building yr and they still went 11-5....not a rebuild but a building block....they don't need any offensive draft picks....now the building block is on the defensive side....so look out....that is all we need....then we will be talking sb...and as far as the steelers go....they have no running game and that will haunt them in the playoffs...dey ain't goin to the sb either.....big ben is juuuuuuust about finished with his career....

    I guess you are gonna find out, aren't ya? Ben isn't done. I was almost there before the Colts game and he was unstoppable in the second half. He is limited by our offensive coordinator. If they play like they did second half of the Colts they are making a deep run. The defense is elite and even with a flawed run game (a lot of it is our terrible oc) we have a ton of weapons. 

    @vagitron said:

    I guess you are gonna find out, aren't ya? Ben isn't done. I was almost there before the Colts game and he was unstoppable in the second half. He is limited by our offensive coordinator. If they play like they did second half of the Colts they are making a deep run. The defense is elite and even with a flawed run game (a lot of it is our terrible oc) we have a ton of weapons. 

    ben is on his way out......face it....tooo beat up over the yrs......ehhhhhhh.....no running game.....this just in...you have shjit for a running game....and you will get you ass kicked because of it....can't wait to call your ass out on this.....you may beat the browns and you may even have somewhat of a running game because our lb's suck... but after that...you gunna git you ass hammered...

  • We haven't PRACTICED yet this week. Ugh. 

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    And that's what hurts. Losing Bitonio is absolutely crushing. I'm going to tell you a story. The story does not have a happy ending. A few years ago, we had to play a 1st round draft pick named Cam Irving. I believe he played center during this story, and he was tasked with going up against Cam Hayward. Now, this did not go well. In fact, it went poorly. I remember watching Cam Irving getting his ass BLOWN apart by Heyward. He didn't just struggle, he was ABYSMAL. There were gifs floating around the web of Irving FLYING backwards and just getting owned. 

    Why is this important? Because not only is Bitonio out (who never played well against Steelers), but his backup is out. And then HIS backup is out. What's worse? We haven't even PRACTICED YET. Now, maybe we practiced today, I don't know, but we didn't yesterday. How can we get in a groove if we can't practice again? Ugh. 

    Points taken.

    This to me is a superstar game and it’s why you have them.   Myles who hasn’t been right lately shows up big against a guy he does well against.  He’s a game wrecker.  He needs to wreck the Steelers game plan....prevent scoring drives 

    On the other side Chubb...that big run Sunday where he brought Minkah to his knees do it again and again this Sunday night.

    Lastly and for the reasons I mentioned above ...Baker...loose, and free and playing against the odds Baker - showing out and showing up big.  

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Points taken.

    This to me is a superstar game and it’s why you have them.   Myles who hasn’t been right lately shows up big against a guy he does well against.  He’s a game wrecker.  He needs to wreck the Steelers game plan....prevent scoring drives 

    On the other side Chubb...that big run Sunday where he brought Minkah to his knees do it again and again this Sunday night.

    Lastly and for the reasons I mentioned above ...Baker...loose, and free and playing against the odds Baker - showing out and showing up big.  

    Funny thing is, I REALLY want to play against the Chiefs. Isn't that who we'd get if we somehow pulled this out? We're beat to beat them. We can score, play keep away, and we get turnovers. I'm not saying we WOULD beat them, but we're not who they want to see. 

  • Bad news first...

    Hadn't seen it posted yet, but Harrison is OUT.

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    PTG's report looks a little more normal, but I did not copy the strange remnants from Sunday's "rest starters" mode.

    Ebron is OUT and JuJu is nicked.

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    @tour2ma said:

    Bad news first...

    Hadn't seen it posted yet, but Harrison is OUT.

    image.png.feb7bc9159279a9b213f2af9e62af4dc.png

    PTG's report looks a little more normal, but I did not copy the strange remnants from Sunday's "rest starters" mode.

    Ebron is OUT and JuJu is nicked.

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    Is this old?  You have BR and TJ Watt out. 

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  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Points taken.

    This to me is a superstar game and it’s why you have them.   Myles who hasn’t been right lately shows up big against a guy he does well against.  He’s a game wrecker.  He needs to wreck the Steelers game plan....prevent scoring drives 

    On the other side Chubb...that big run Sunday where he brought Minkah to his knees do it again and again this Sunday night.

    Lastly and for the reasons I mentioned above ...Baker...loose, and free and playing against the odds Baker - showing out and showing up big.  

    Funny thing is, I REALLY want to play against the Chiefs. Isn't that who we'd get if we somehow pulled this out? We're beat to beat them. We can score, play keep away, and we get turnovers. I'm not saying we WOULD beat them, but we're not who they want to see. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Funny thing is, I REALLY want to play against the Chiefs. Isn't that who we'd get if we somehow pulled this out? We're beat to beat them. We can score, play keep away, and we get turnovers. I'm not saying we WOULD beat them, but we're not who they want to see. 

    Unless the colts somehow win.

  • @vagitron said:

    I guess you are gonna find out, aren't ya? Ben isn't done. I was almost there before the Colts game and he was unstoppable in the second half. He is limited by our offensive coordinator. If they play like they did second half of the Colts they are making a deep run. The defense is elite and even with a flawed run game (a lot of it is our terrible oc) we have a ton of weapons. 

    ben is on his way out......face it....tooo beat up over the yrs......ehhhhhhh.....no running game.....this just in...you have shjit for a running game....and you will get you ass kicked because of it....can't wait to call your ass out on this.....you may beat the browns and you may even have somewhat of a running game because our lb's suck... but after that...you gunna git you ass hammered...

    @browns52 said:

    ben is on his way out......face it....tooo beat up over the yrs......ehhhhhhh.....no running game.....this just in...you have shjit for a running game....and you will get you ass kicked because of it....can't wait to call your ass out on this.....you may beat the browns and you may even have somewhat of a running game because our lb's suck... but after that...you gunna git you ass hammered...

    Im not going anywhere, like i said with gipper earlier if I'm right i expect you in here eating some crow.  I have never ever hid on this board and i'm not about to start.  I stand behind what i say no matter what I say. If i'm wrong i'm wrong but i'm currently not worried about the steelers.  The virus and injuries are the biggest factors. 

  • Bad news first...

    Hadn't seen it posted yet, but Harrison is OUT.

    image.png.feb7bc9159279a9b213f2af9e62af4dc.png

    PTG's report looks a little more normal, but I did not copy the strange remnants from Sunday's "rest starters" mode.

    Ebron is OUT and JuJu is nicked.

    image.png.eacc5fed09fb32368dc6d3694eb98da6.png

    @tour2ma said:

    Bad news first...

    Hadn't seen it posted yet, but Harrison is OUT.

    image.png.feb7bc9159279a9b213f2af9e62af4dc.png

    PTG's report looks a little more normal, but I did not copy the strange remnants from Sunday's "rest starters" mode.

    Ebron is OUT and JuJu is nicked.

    image.png.eacc5fed09fb32368dc6d3694eb98da6.png

    Juju is 100% playing and i'm 95% sure Ebron is back, with all the shit happening at the capitol and my own day to day dealings i've been out of the loop with who is back and who isn't.  Our biggest return might just be spillane excluding Haden who i believe is missing Sunday no matter what courtesy of covid. The Browns facility is a fucking mess, I'd frankly be completely fine with pushing the game but i doubt the league will. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Points taken.

    This to me is a superstar game and it’s why you have them.   Myles who hasn’t been right lately shows up big against a guy he does well against.  He’s a game wrecker.  He needs to wreck the Steelers game plan....prevent scoring drives 

    On the other side Chubb...that big run Sunday where he brought Minkah to his knees do it again and again this Sunday night.

    Lastly and for the reasons I mentioned above ...Baker...loose, and free and playing against the odds Baker - showing out and showing up big.  

    Funny thing is, I REALLY want to play against the Chiefs. Isn't that who we'd get if we somehow pulled this out? We're beat to beat them. We can score, play keep away, and we get turnovers. I'm not saying we WOULD beat them, but we're not who they want to see. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Funny thing is, I REALLY want to play against the Chiefs. Isn't that who we'd get if we somehow pulled this out? We're beat to beat them. We can score, play keep away, and we get turnovers. I'm not saying we WOULD beat them, but we're not who they want to see. 

    If we go 1-0 after Sunday night- overcoming some of the obstacles- why not. Anything is possible.

    i think we’d play them in that manner and it’s probably the way we should play everyone

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Try to disrupt his throws.

    Forget the house... ^ this...

    The DL can't get there if he's throwing short, so follow his eyes into the passing lanes and go tip drill on his ass.

    @tour2ma said:

    Forget the house... ^ this...

    The DL can't get there if he's throwing short, so follow his eyes into the passing lanes and go tip drill on his ass.

    Have the Coverage match the pressure...which we don’t do a lot.  We don’t really jam WRs a lot because we don’t have the 6’2’’ 210 corners 

    How many WR screens are we going to see caught behind the LOS result in 10+ yard? 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Forget the house... ^ this...

    The DL can't get there if he's throwing short, so follow his eyes into the passing lanes and go tip drill on his ass.

    Have the Coverage match the pressure...which we don’t do a lot.  We don’t really jam WRs a lot because we don’t have the 6’2’’ 210 corners 

    How many WR screens are we going to see caught behind the LOS result in 10+ yard? 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Have the Coverage match the pressure...which we don’t do a lot.  We don’t really jam WRs a lot because we don’t have the 6’2’’ 210 corners 

    How many WR screens are we going to see caught behind the LOS result in 10+ yard? 

    Well if Ward is out and Kevin Johnson is out and that Jackson kid plays again. Probably 30? 35?

  • @tour2ma said:

    Forget the house... ^ this...

    The DL can't get there if he's throwing short, so follow his eyes into the passing lanes and go tip drill on his ass.

    Have the Coverage match the pressure...which we don’t do a lot.  We don’t really jam WRs a lot because we don’t have the 6’2’’ 210 corners 

    How many WR screens are we going to see caught behind the LOS result in 10+ yard? 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Have the Coverage match the pressure...which we don’t do a lot.  We don’t really jam WRs a lot because we don’t have the 6’2’’ 210 corners 

    How many WR screens are we going to see caught behind the LOS result in 10+ yard? 

    And now no Harrison. Throw us a bone! 

  • @browns52 said:

    ben is on his way out......face it....tooo beat up over the yrs......ehhhhhhh.....no running game.....this just in...you have shjit for a running game....and you will get you ass kicked because of it....can't wait to call your ass out on this.....you may beat the browns and you may even have somewhat of a running game because our lb's suck... but after that...you gunna git you ass hammered...

    Im not going anywhere, like i said with gipper earlier if I'm right i expect you in here eating some crow.  I have never ever hid on this board and i'm not about to start.  I stand behind what i say no matter what I say. If i'm wrong i'm wrong but i'm currently not worried about the steelers.  The virus and injuries are the biggest factors. 

    @vagitron said:

    Im not going anywhere, like i said with gipper earlier if I'm right i expect you in here eating some crow.  I have never ever hid on this board and i'm not about to start.  I stand behind what i say no matter what I say. If i'm wrong i'm wrong but i'm currently not worried about the steelers.  The virus and injuries are the biggest factors. 

    Eat crow over what?  

    The ONLY possible thing that I would have to eat crow over is if the Steelers go into  Buffalo and win.   And OK, I would have to in that case.    And the crow I will eat is this "Crow".  Andrea Crow:

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  • on a positive note:

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    Browns Activate B.J. Goodson, Sign Anthony Fabiano

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