2021 'Who are you watching?' NFL prospect thread.

[Tour2ma]

@gumby73 said:

That's all the time I will be spending on draft eligible placekickers ... find a way..  4 yr. Career X-points- 168 of 171...

Doesn't the NCAA still kick from the 3?

[SdBacker80]

@gumby73 said:

Barrett Sallee

 

@BarrettSallee

Miami K Jose Borregales is the winner of the Lou Groza Award

7:25 PM · Jan 7, 2021

 

 

 

That's all the time I will be spending on draft eligible placekickers ... find a way..  4 yr. Career X-points- 168 of 171...

 

 

 

 

 

   MLB - Clemson- James Skalski is returning to Clemson 🥷

Unless we are looking at the next Justin Tucker (I don’t know if that is the case maybe it is). 

I would prefer to hold a workout on a windy May evening and take a free agent rookie or even a vet that can handle our stadium.

[The Gipper]

@gumby73 said:

Time to start compiling tape list of award finalist candidates... announced WINNERS are in BOLD

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Finalists Announced for ESPN’s 30th Annual The Home Depot College Football Awards

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• Show Set for Thursday, Jan. 7, at 7 p.m. ET, on ESPN

The finalists have been named for the National College Football Awards Association (NCFAA) honors presented at The Home Depot College Football Awards. This year’s awards show will be presented virtually on Thursday, Jan. 7, at 7 p.m. ET, on ESPN. ESPN’s Rece Davis will host the 90-minute special, joined by reporter Holly Rowe.

The Home Depot College Football Awards Finalists

NCFAA awards announced during The Home Depot College Football Awards:

Chuck Bednarik Award College Defensive Player of the Year	Zaven Collins, Tulsa (Jr.) Jeremiah Oswusu-Koramoah, Notre Dame (Sr.) Patrick Surtain II, Alabama (Jr.)
Biletnikoff Award Outstanding Receiver	Elijah Moore, Ole Miss (Jr.) Kyle Pitts, Florida (Jr.) DeVonta Smith, Alabama (Sr.)
Lou Groza Collegiate Place-Kicker Award Nation’s Outstanding Placekicker	Jose Borregales, Miami (Sr.) Jake Oldroyd, BYU (So.) Will Reichard, Alabama (So.)
Ray Guy Award College Punter of the Year	Jake Camarda, Georgia (Jr.) Pressley Harvin III, Georgia Tech (Sr.) Lou Hedley, Miami (Jr.)
Maxwell Award College Player of the Year	Mac Jones, Alabama (Jr.) Trevor Lawrence, Clemson (Jr.) DeVonta Smith, Alabama (Sr.)
Davey O’Brien National Quarterback Award Nation’s Best Quarterback	Mac Jones, Alabama (Jr.) Trevor Lawrence, Clemson (Jr.) Kyle Trask, Florida (Sr.)
Outland Trophy Nation’s Most Outstanding Interior Lineman	Liam Eichenberg, Notre Dame (Gr.) Alex Leatherwood, Alabama (Sr.) Daviyon Nixon, Iowa (Jr.)
Paycom Jim Thorpe Award Nation’s Best Defensive Back	Richie Grant, UCF (Sr.) Trevon Moehrig, TCU (Jr.) Patrick Surtain II, Alabama (Jr.)
Doak Walker Award Nation’s Premier Running Back	Travis Etienne, Clemson (Sr.) Breece Hall, Iowa State (So.) Najee Harris, Alabama (Sr.)

Butkus Award

Best Linebacker

Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Notre Dame (Nick Bolton-MS/Zaven Collins-Tulsa/Devin LLoyd-Utah/Monty Rice-Georgia)

Additional honors recognized during The Home Depot College Football Awards:

The Home Depot Coach of the Year	Winner announced January 5
William V. Campbell Trophy Presented By Mazda Scholar-Athlete	Full list of finalists available here.
Disney Spirit Award Most Inspirational Player or Team	Darien Rencher, Clemson (Sr.)
The Allstate AFCA Good Works Team	Team Captain: Telton Saltes, New Mexico (Sr.) Full list of team members available here.
Walter Camp All America Team	Full team announced on January 7.
John Mackey Award Outstanding Tight End	Charlie Kolar, Iowa State (Jr.) Kyle Pitts, Florida (Jr.) Jalen Wydermyer, Texas A&M (So.)
Rimington Trophy Outstanding Center	Landon Dickerson, Alabama (Sr.) Tyler Linderbaum, Iowa (So.) Josh Myers, Ohio State (Jr.)
Wuerffel Trophy Community Service	Sam Ehlinger, Texas (Sr.) Teton Saltes, New Mexico (Sr.) Shai Werts, Georgia Southern (Sr.)

Other awards given this postseason:

Broyles Award Assistant Coach of the Year	Marcus Freeman, Cincinnati Jeff Grimes, BYU Mike Hankwitz, Northwestern Steve Sarkisian, Alabama Kane Wommack, Indiana
Burlsworth Trophy College football’s most outstanding player who began his career as a walk-on	Dax Milne, BYU (Jr.) Grant Morgan, Arkansas (Sr.) Jimmy Morrissey, Pitt (Sr.)

      https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-awards-complete-list-of-all-winners-for-2020-21-season/

Senior bowl 22 days away.. Underclassmen have 10 days to declare if* by the 18th..

Tracker Time.. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2021-nfl-draft-underclassmen-tracker-college-football-players-leaving-early/

I think a lot of these are  poor choices....or just cop outs. 

[calfoxwc]

@texasag1969 said:

I see that Collins of Tulsa won for LBs. He may still be on the board when we pick. And there is my Aggie TE up for Mackey Award, the soph I was telling you about for 2022 draft was in the final 3 along with two Juniors. Pitts deserved it and I doubt he will still be there past top 10. And Safety Moehrig won the DBs award. He might still be there for us, a big "Might" though. Surprised he got it over Surtain.

Zaven Collins - he's that good. I was watching him keenly in their last game - and he didn't get to do much. Made a few tackles, once went into the backfield on a rush - he was on the right side, the qb rolled out to his right, and Collins forced him out of bounds on the far side of the field. I was hoping to get a better look at the bowl game, but nope.

   What was frustrating - the opposing team ran away from his side most of the game. It was amazing. They threw downfield, or ran up the middle, or to their right. In other games, Collins reminds me a little bit of Clay Mathews. Mathews is 6'3", 255. Collins is 6'4", 260, and has excellent instincts. And he plays sideline to sideline.

   Collins just this past season, had 4 sacks, 2 fumbles, 4 interceptions, and 2 TD's.

he can really move too -

[calfoxwc]

having said that, I am also keenly interested in

Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah

"The next great hybrid player, Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah blurs the line between linebacker and safety. Notre Dame was as comfortably lining him up in the slot as they were rushing him off the edge. A Swiss-army-knife, his blend of length at 6’1″ and speed make his floor tremendous.

However, weighing in at only 216 pounds, I do have some concerns about whether or not he can be an impact between the tackles in the NFL. How Notre Dame uses Owusu-Koramoah this year will likely dictate whether or not the NFL views him more as a safety or a linebacker.

Explosion like this is unfair form the a linebacker spot. Notre Dame’s Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah(#6) gets after the quarterback in an instant off the weakside blitz. pic.twitter.com/sJV0HtXFxL

— Matt Valdovinos (@MVScouting) June 6, 2020"

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   just my opinion, he could be an all pro safety, obviously a bit light for full time lb. Bolton - has been mentioned - he's very good, but smallish - 6', 235. I like a bigger lb. and very fast at the same time. Not easy to find.

Owusu-Koramoah is just amazing. He is on my early list for the Browns first round draft pick.  but it's way too early.

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"As expected, Notre Dame All-America linebacker Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah has declared for the 2021 NFL Draft. A two-year starter at rover, Owusu-Koramoah had back-to-back brilliant seasons for the Irish defense. The Hampton, Va. native racked up 142 tackles ... "

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   However - there is a good bit of talk - about the broncos drafting Owusu with their overall ninth pick.

   dammit.

[Tour2ma]

@calfoxwc said:

Clay Mathews. Mathews is 6'3", 255. Collins is 6'4", 260,

tia's gonna hate this, but...

In Mathews' day we ran a pure 3-4 and at Tulsa they run a 3-3-5. So I have to ask... is he a fit for us?

Granted... we can change our D to use him, but we are going to need to sign/draft with that in mind.

[The Gipper]

@tour2ma said:

tia's gonna hate this, but...

In Mathews' day we ran a pure 3-4 and at Tulsa they run a 3-3-5. So I have to ask... is he a fit for us?

Granted... we can change our D to use him, but we are going to need to sign/draft with that in mind.

[tiamat63]

@tour2ma said:

tia's gonna hate this, but...

In Mathews' day we ran a pure 3-4 and at Tulsa they run a 3-3-5. So I have to ask... is he a fit for us?

Granted... we can change our D to use him, but we are going to need to sign/draft with that in mind.

Zaven is a SAM backer in whatever system you put him.  If he does check in at 260 (a VERY heavy off-ball linebacker) then the tape doesn't show it.  Because he moves pretty decent for somebody at that weight from the little I've seen.

@calfoxwc said:

   However - there is a good bit of talk - about the broncos drafting Owusu with their overall ninth pick.

   dammit.

Watched the ND - Clemson and Bama games.

Shades of how Hitman Harry was used at ND and Minny, both the good and the not-so-good.

[TexasAg1969]

tia-A&M's DT Bobby Brown has opted to go pro.

Tour-so has your darkhorse Kellen Mond-QB

[tiamat63]

@texasag1969 said:

tia-A&M's DT Bobby Brown has opted to go pro.

Tour-so has your darkhorse Kellen Mond-QB

Naturally.

[Tour2ma]

@texasag1969 said:

Tour-so has your darkhorse Kellen Mond-QB

Strike while the iron's hot...

[MLD Woody]

@tiamat63

If you do any wolverines, tag me. Always enjoy reading your thoughts. 

I saw Paye mocked to us a few times early, but recently he's been mocked as high as #4. That seems insane, but I guess there really isn't a sure fire pass rusher this year. 

[TexasAg1969]

And speaking of Tupa. He had one memorable moment as an NFL QB! 

[Unsympathetic]

Not so much a prospect but.. If we need to save $$ to resign other guys, maybe we could get WFC's Heinicke as QB2 next season. 

He's at most 1/4th the price of Keenum's 6m annual in 2021 and 2022

[Dutch Oven]

Tom Tupa - I believe - is the first player to score a 2pt conversion too... 

[The Gipper]

@dutch-oven said:

Tom Tupa - I believe - is the first player to score a 2pt conversion too... 

He was.   He even got a nickname from it   Tom  Tupoint Tupa. 

[tiamat63]

@unsympathetic said:

Not so much a prospect but.. If we need to save $$ to resign other guys, maybe we could get WFC's Heinicke as QB2 next season. 

He's at most 1/4th the price of Keenum's 6m annual in 2021 and 2022

I didn't get a chance to watch that game last night.  Somebody at breakfast this morning said "Chris Heineke"...   and I had the most confused look.

I honestly thought they meant FSU boy from back in the day.

[Tour2ma]

Chris Weinke?

We are never going to get a shot at Heinicke. WSH will sign him and his price will go up.

And that's fine by me..

The man played with lots of guile and cool last nite... very admirable. Showed understanding and anticipation way beyond his experience level.

However, his average-at-best arm needs to be in a dome as much as possible.

[tiamat63]

@tour2ma said:

Chris Weinke?

We are never going to get a shot at Heinicke. WSH will sign him and his price will go up.

And that's fine by me..

The man played with lots of guile and cool last nite... very admirable. Showed understanding and anticipation way beyond his experience level.

However, his average-at-best arm needs to be in a dome as much as possible.

See, I knew the same sounded about the same.  

[Dutch Oven]

I know WR isn't an enormous need, but the Browns really could use a big, physical WR like A.J. Brown of Tennessee, Chase Claypool of Pittsburgh, or T.J. Metcalf of Seattle. (Then again, not knowing how much longer OBJ will be on the team, they could also use a speedster who can blow the top off defenses)

Who in the upcoming draft fits this Brown/Claypool/Metcalf bill?