Week 18: Browns vs Steelers Wild Card Game

[Vagitron]

@the-gipper said:

I read that.  It was bullshit then and it is bullshit now.   The only thing you are making clear is that you are making excuses.  The Browns have not had a bye week in nearly as long....and have had a hell of a lot more injuries and Covid cases than the Squibs have.

Go take your excuses somewhere else. 

Excuses? I'm not making excuses. They lost those games and they shouldn't have but some of you dumb fucks can't blame covid/injuries if I can't too. You know better or do you? 

[Tour2ma]

@calfoxwc said:

he will be - but he will do a good job. Despite it all, I believe the Browns will play one of their best games of the year.

One thing for sure... PTG won't have any recent data on his call tendencies.

[Vagitron]

@sdbacker80 said:

I saw a post this week on a Steeler Form.  “Conspiracy theory.  The NFL wants the Browns to Win.”  Basically the NFL feels sorry for Cleveland and it’s fans. 
 

Really???

Because they are postponing the game?

or 

Because they are allowing our coaches to stay connected with the team during the game?

or

Because they cancelled the Jets game?

Delusional. 
 

Can we please win this one- find a way.  If it means we get rolled next week so be it. 

What steeler forum? Lol. That is written no where in any of mine and I hold my steeler stuff to a required Standard of minimal bs. There are fringe, nutty fans everywhere but I promise you this isn't a real narrative in any of my circles. 

[Tour2ma]

@vagitron said:

I promise you

Cross your heart and hope to lose?

[The Gipper]

@vagitron said:

Excuses? I'm not making excuses. They lost those games and they shouldn't have but some of you dumb fucks can't blame covid/injuries if I can't too. You know better or do you? 

I know that it seems you are already making excuses for perhaps losing a game you should win with ease 

[The Gipper]

@vagitron said:

What steeler forum? Lol. That is written no where in any of mine and I hold my steeler stuff to a required Standard of minimal bs. There are fringe, nutty fans everywhere but I promise you this isn't a real narrative in any of my circles. 

So you are saying you are out of touch 

[Gunz41]

@vagitron said:

Excuses? I'm not making excuses. They lost those games and they shouldn't have but some of you dumb fucks can't blame covid/injuries if I can't too. You know better or do you? 

Come on man, you are making yourself look like a troll with some of these posts.

1. You never replied to being pointed out that your argument how unfair 3 games in 12 days was sooooooo unfair, when most teams do that yearly (Sunday, Sunday, Thursday or vice versa)

2. You want us to believe you that the team the 1st 11 weeks was the REAL Steelers, yet you continue to point out the amount of injuries they have had. 

These things can certainly be looked at as just being a fan. So you are given a pass on them as not "excuses", BUT...

3. The notion that Pittsburgh (as the example being used) has turned everything back around based on ONE HALF of football is (in my best Stephen A Smith voice, "Asinine, Asiten, Asieleven, Asitwelve"

Here are some notable games THIS year of games that one half didn't tell the story:

Week 2: Chargers over Chiefs

Week 4: Chargers over Bucs

Week 5: Vikings over Seahawks; Raiders over Chiefs; Bonus entire game: Titans by 26 over Bills

Week 6: Eagles over Ravens (2nd half like yours); Bonus- Bucs by 28 over Packers

Week 7: Titans 2nd half over Steelers

Week 8: Vikings over Packers

Week 10: Patriots over Ravens; Colts 2nd half over Titans

Week 11: Colts over Packers

Week 12: Falcons over Raiders by 37

Week 13: Washington over Steelers, Browns 1st half vs Titans

Week 14: Eagles vs Saints

Week 15: Bengals over Steelers, Jets over Rams, Falcons 1st half vs Bucs

Week 16: Jets over Browns, Falcons most of game vs. Chiefs; Bonus- since you want to point that game out, what about the FIRST HALF of Colts Steelers

Now, do you see how strange it seems that you want to use one half of football to say that your whole season has turned around?

You see man, I think that Pittsburgh was better than both Washington and Cincinnati by A LOT. I think they are better than the Colts. But they lost those 1st two for whatever reason. I just think it is ridiculous to use one half of a football game to justify being back, just as either one half/or game above didn't show that for those teams. 

I mean couldn't the Colts do the EXACT same thing and say they lost it for a period of time, but "look at what we did 1st half."

Or did the Chiefs "lose it" every week in playoffs last year? Or if the Browns jump to a big lead and Steelers come back, did you turn it all around again? Or if Steelers jump out and Browns come back, did they get it all back?

Instead of just saying "Steelers had a great half and showed what they are capable of", you went with what you did. I don't know how a team can be worn down by all they went through and rejuvenate at halftime of a game???

[Vagitron]

@the-gipper said:

I know that it seems you are already making excuses for perhaps losing a game you should win with ease 

I am not making excuses for this game.  I'm calling out people crying about covid while those same people give the Steelers shit for bitching about the same.  

@the-gipper said:

So you are saying you are out of touch 

Gipper I get my Steeler info from very specific and well sourced places.  I don't do deep dives on stupid conspiracies (unless it's the cheatriots) The Steelers like every other fan base in the league has segments of dipshit fans and it's that segment that is maybe talking about the league having a fix in for the Browns.  I haven't read that on any of my resources and for good reason, they aren't made up of dipshits.  I also know A MILLION TIMES MORE about the current NFL than you do.  You win pre-merger so kindly stop the routine with me not knowing anything or being out of touch.  If I felt like dumping hours of my time into debating you in a serious manner I might just run you off your own fucking board.  Kindly STFU now.  Actually that last bit is a lie, you are ridiculous and unrelenting in the worst ways possible.  I really should just stop responding to you. (hard for me too because i LIKE to argue)

[Vagitron]

@tour2ma said:

Cross your heart and hope to lose?

lol, you know i don't hide. I will be on this board no matter the outcome.  I actually enjoy some of you goons. ?

[The Gipper]

@vagitron said:

I am not making excuses for this game.  I'm calling out people crying about covid while those same people give the Steelers shit for bitching about the same.  

You are making excuses on top of making excuses for making those excuses.

Gipper I get my Steeler info from very specific and well sourced places.

Well...apparently SD here has better sources than you do. 

  I don't do deep dives on stupid conspiracies (unless it's the cheatriots)

Yes, you do, if those are accusations of conspiracies against the steelers. 

The Steelers like every other fan base in the league has segments of dipshit fans and it's that segment that is maybe talking about the league having a fix in for the Browns. 

Well...the Steelers have more dipshit fans than any other fan base in the league. 

I haven't read that on any of my resources and for good reason, they aren't made up of dipshits.

They ARE Steeler fans....which by definition means they are made up of dipshits. 

  I also know A MILLION TIMES MORE about the current NFL than you do.

Everyone on planet Earth would laugh at this comment. 

  You win pre-merger so kindly stop the routine with me not knowing anything or being out of touch.

Learn something and quit being out of touch, and maybe I will stop calling you out for being out of touch. 

  If I felt like dumping hours of my time into debating you in a serious manner I might just run you off your own fucking board. 

Go ahead....complain to Kathy about me.  I dare you. 

Kindly STFU now.  Actually that last bit is a lie, you are ridiculous and unrelenting in the worst ways possible.  I really should just stop responding to you. (hard for me too because i LIKE to argue)

Last bit?  What last bit? By the way, NO debate with you is ever "serious"  Merely  pointing  out your delusions does not constitute a debate. 

[Vagitron]

@gunz41 said:

Come on man, you are making yourself look like a troll with some of these posts.

1. You never replied to being pointed out that your argument how unfair 3 games in 12 days was sooooooo unfair, when most teams do that yearly (Sunday, Sunday, Thursday or vice versa)

2. You want us to believe you that the team the 1st 11 weeks was the REAL Steelers, yet you continue to point out the amount of injuries they have had. 

These things can certainly be looked at as just being a fan. So you are given a pass on them as not "excuses", BUT...

3. The notion that Pittsburgh (as the example being used) has turned everything back around based on ONE HALF of football is (in my best Stephen A Smith voice, "Asinine, Asiten, Asieleven, Asitwelve"

Here are some notable games THIS year of games that one half didn't tell the story:

Week 2: Chargers over Chiefs

Week 4: Chargers over Bucs

Week 5: Vikings over Seahawks; Raiders over Chiefs; Bonus entire game: Titans by 26 over Bills

Week 6: Eagles over Ravens (2nd half like yours); Bonus- Bucs by 28 over Packers

Week 7: Titans 2nd half over Steelers

Week 8: Vikings over Packers

Week 10: Patriots over Ravens; Colts 2nd half over Titans

Week 11: Colts over Packers

Week 12: Falcons over Raiders by 37

Week 13: Washington over Steelers, Browns 1st half vs Titans

Week 14: Eagles vs Saints

Week 15: Bengals over Steelers, Jets over Rams, Falcons 1st half vs Bucs

Week 16: Jets over Browns, Falcons most of game vs. Chiefs; Bonus- since you want to point that game out, what about the FIRST HALF of Colts Steelers

Now, do you see how strange it seems that you want to use one half of football to say that your whole season has turned around?

You see man, I think that Pittsburgh was better than both Washington and Cincinnati by A LOT. I think they are better than the Colts. But they lost those 1st two for whatever reason. I just think it is ridiculous to use one half of a football game to justify being back, just as either one half/or game above didn't show that for those teams. 

I mean couldn't the Colts do the EXACT same thing and say they lost it for a period of time, but "look at what we did 1st half."

Or did the Chiefs "lose it" every week in playoffs last year? Or if the Browns jump to a big lead and Steelers come back, did you turn it all around again? Or if Steelers jump out and Browns come back, did they get it all back?

Instead of just saying "Steelers had a great half and showed what they are capable of", you went with what you did. I don't know how a team can be worn down by all they went through and rejuvenate at halftime of a game???

3 games in 12 days with a week 4 bye week which was hardly a bye week in the first place.  It isn't the same and I did respond whenever that was mentioned last month. I also mentioned the second half of the colts game because the team was starting to get healthy and Ben was calling the plays.  I really don't care to be frank but i think a lot of the crying here is ridiculous.  As far as one half is concerned you all very nearly lost with a ton of our backups in so maybe you want to reevaluate that one. If mason didn't throw that INT in a panic you WOULD have lost. 

[The Gipper]

@vagitron said:

3 games in 12 days with a week 4 bye week which was hardly a bye week in the first place.  It isn't the same and I did respond whenever that was mentioned last month. I also mentioned the second half of the colts game because the team was starting to get healthy and Ben was calling the plays.  I really don't care to be frank but i think a lot of the crying here is ridiculous.  As far as one half is concerned you all very nearly lost with a ton of our backups in so maybe you want to reevaluate that one. If mason didn't throw that INT in a panic you WOULD have lost. 

The only one crying on here is you...Frank. 

[Tour2ma]

@vagitron said:

I will be on this board no matter the outcome.

Cool... you can continue to explain to me how the Eagles are a "good team"...

And feel free to join us in The Tavern tomorrow nite... at any point where we are winning...

[Tour2ma]

@vagitron said:

I really don't care to be frank but i think a lot of the crying here is ridiculous.

Something that never happens on a Steeler forum, I'm sure...

[Tour2ma]

"Enemies" is a tad strong, but here's an article, and maybe a book, some here will be interested in...

https://www.wkyc.com/article/sports/nfl/browns/cleveland-browns-pittsburgh-steelers-enemies-national-football-league/95-41382d85-edfa-4d8e-89c9-10eba07f48d3

[Tour2ma]

Couple updates at the top of our injury Report...

Nothing new in PTG's, but here's reminder of who they'll be missing...

GO BROWNS!

[Tour2ma]

Update on Peeps not reflected in our Injury Report...

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/01/browns-donovan-peoples-jones-cleared-from-concussion-protocol-jack-conkin-idle-with-illness-chad-oshea-returns.html

[Vambo]

[Vagitron]

@tour2ma said:

Cool... you can continue to explain to me how the Eagles are a "good team"...

And feel free to join us in The Tavern tomorrow nite... at any point where we are winning...

I never said the eagles are a "good team" but i did say they were better than their record and their defensive line is very stout.  I don't think anyone saw the Wentz implosion coming. I might pop in the tavern but my goofy ass friend scheduled our NHL fantasy draft for tomorrow so i'm going to be doing some lite multi-tasking.  Appreciate the invite. ?

[Vagitron]

@tour2ma said:

Something that never happens on a Steeler forum, I'm sure...

Oh we have em in spades, I just avoid it.  The majority of that is via facebook and the pittsburgh local news stations, it's the worst of our fan base there and it's a cesspool.  I follow the Steelersdepot which does incredible coverage if you have even a passing interest and it's objective.  I get most of that via twitter which is UNRIVALED for sports coverage if you follow the right people. I'm on reddit otherwise which is normally pretty objective too but has it's share of fucking crying. (I avoid it)