***WILDCARD: Browns AT Steelers Gameday Thread***

hoorta

@brownskidd said:

I Could be wrong, but did I see that KC has on of the worst run defenses in the league. Next week !could be very interesting!

Let's not make the same mistake that doomed the Titans. They tried to win the game with Henry running into a stacked 8 in the box Ratbird defense selling out to stop the run.

If it's not working, try something else.

TexasAg1969

@gbfan2011 said:

Loved that clown Juju Shuster eating his words!

Somebody should sort out the orange ones from this and send them to him

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Tour2ma

@vagitron said:

It's the first time in my life I've been inclined to turn the game off and do something else.

But you didn't... did you?

@brownsaint said:

Baller

Stanford Steve?

Vagitron

@tour2ma said:

But you didn't... did you?

Stanford Steve?

I went downstairs and packed a bowl full of some of the Devils lettuce and plowed through it on the back porch.

Vagitron

@texasag1969 said:

Somebody should sort out the orange ones from this and send them to him

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Juju winked when he said that but the media ran with it. He certainly didn't struggle yesterday. Enjoy your win today but the steelers aren't going anywhere and juju wasn't being serious.

Tour2ma

@sdbacker80 said:

Booth review under 2 mins????

Yup...

Tavern talk was about doing what McDermott did in BUF earlier Sunday... calling a TO to give booth more time to review the play.

Vagitron

I don't think some of you realize just how much yesterday was about certain things coming to fruition and not the Browns being "superior"

Pouncey hasn't been "good" for a while and villanueva has always been overrated. The teams decision to start feiler over dotson was also ill-advised as dotson is better. Shit happens, the Browns played well but this wasn't a "oh my God, we got owned" as much as it was the end of the line for some in the black and gold. Go back to that first snap. Again not trying to rain on parades. Enjoy your win.

Tour2ma

@tiamat63 said:

Dagger. Been waiting on that call.

Had to have been the screen to Chubb for 6.

Let me know what I win...

Tour2ma · 4:37 am in the UK and I'm having a Scotch!

@kennel-club said:

4:37 am in the UK and I'm having a Scotch!

You say that as if it is unusual...

Tour2ma

@vagitron said:

I went downstairs and packed a bowl full of some of the Devils lettuce and plowed through it on the back porch.

Hope you've got enough to get you thru a lo-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-ng off-season, my friend.

Vagitron

@tour2ma said:

Hope you've got enough to get you thru a lo-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-ng off-season, my friend.

I have the penguins. I don't get too down about the steelers because of how the organization is run. My offseason will be just fine. Try not to get your ass pegged by the chiefs. ?

TypicalBrowns50

Steelers are pathetic

Tour2ma

@vagitron said:

I don't think some of you realize just how much yesterday was about certain things coming to fruition and not the Browns being "superior"

Pouncey hasn't been "good" for a while and villanueva has always been overrated. The teams decision to start feiler over dotson was also ill-advised as dotson is better. Shit happens, the Browns played well but this wasn't a "oh my God, we got owned" as much as it was the end of the line for some in the black and gold. Go back to that first snap. Again not trying to rain on parades. Enjoy your win.

As was commented in the post game I watched (I think it was Jeff Saturday on ESPN's Rewind) your OL does now look old, but that was not the case for 10 games, so what happened?

Also interested in your take on Ben.

Mine is that his tear was the crush of disappointment, but not simply for the loss itself, but that it ended his run to a SB-bookend to his career. I think that he wanted (and even expected) to go out the way he came in... on top with a ring.

Last nite he realized that to fulfill that dream he has to come back for another "one more year", but that he's to longer sure he's on a team that can build him that bookend.

There's no doubt in my mind he can still play at a high level... not close to his peak, but still plenty high enough... but I've plenty of doubt about whether he played this season for the right reasons or will do so in the future.

There's real sadness.. and more than a little age... in that left eye.

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Vagitron

@tour2ma said:

As was commented in the post game I watched (I think it was Jeff Saturday on ESPN's Rewind) your OL does now look old, but that was not the case for 10 games, so what happened?

Also interested in your take on Ben.

Mine is that his tear was the crush of disappointment, but not simply for the loss itself, but that it ended his run to a SB-bookend to his career. I think that he wanted (and even expected) to go out the way he came in... on top with a ring.

Last nite he realized that to fulfill that dream he has to come back for another "one more year", but that he's to longer sure he's on a team that can build him that bookend.

There's no doubt in my mind he can still play at a high level... not close to his peak, but still plenty high enough... but I've plenty of doubt about whether he played this season for the right reasons or will do so in the future.

There's real sadness.. and more than a little age... in that left eye.

The steelers have a really bad loyalty problem. Feiler should have never started over dotson who has been a fucking monster all season when he plays. He's going to be terrific. Pouncey and villanueva need to go so once they are gone and replaced with likely a first round rookie and bumping Feiler out the line should be just fine. I like chuks even tho he hasn't been as good as dotson and decastro is smart and will be fine too despite imo not being healthy when he returned the last stretch. We also get banner back.

I'm also not worried about Ben unless randy sticks around. Randy is a fucking anchor and a terrible coordinator. I expect Ben for one more but I hope it's with a different oc, I just doubt it will be. He still makes ridiculous throws, the arm is still there but he was definitely sailing stuff AND we had a major drops problem that can't fall on Ben.

Vagitron

@tour2ma said:

As was commented in the post game I watched (I think it was Jeff Saturday on ESPN's Rewind) your OL does now look old, but that was not the case for 10 games, so what happened?

Also interested in your take on Ben.

Mine is that his tear was the crush of disappointment, but not simply for the loss itself, but that it ended his run to a SB-bookend to his career. I think that he wanted (and even expected) to go out the way he came in... on top with a ring.

Last nite he realized that to fulfill that dream he has to come back for another "one more year", but that he's to longer sure he's on a team that can build him that bookend.

There's no doubt in my mind he can still play at a high level... not close to his peak, but still plenty high enough... but I've plenty of doubt about whether he played this season for the right reasons or will do so in the future.

There's real sadness.. and more than a little age... in that left eye.

Other than the obvious I think he's emotional because I believe pouncey is retiring and for me despite his high level play for a long time, good fucking riddance. He's a giant trumpanzee and he's been downright bad for a while. He made pro bowls lately on popularity and our giant fan base.

Villanueva also thinks he's bigger than the team with his anthem antics and he's been bad too. I won't miss either. Ben will miss pouncey tho and I think that's why he's crying other than losing and Approaching the end of the road. We will see how badly he wants to win with how he approaches this season and seasons moving forward if that's even on the table.

hoorta

@canton-mike said:

The great ones overcome adversity & practice "Next man up". This Browns' Team THRIVES on adversity & is so tight knit! I agree with Cal, "Coaching STAFF of the Year".

I love watching my Family, friends & those of you young Fans experience this new culture & the joy it brings to Cleveland & Browns' Fans everywhere!

Mike

Exactly Mike- These 20 somethings and 30 somethings (and younger) have never known what it was like back in the 60s for us. WE were the equivalent of the Steelers back then. They missed the joy of beating the snot out of the Steelers and Cowboys every year by 30.

I've always said my biggest football regret was not spending some of my paper route money back in 1964, buying a ticket to the Championship game and hopping on the bus downtown. Aw, we'll be back in a year or two. Not going on 60.

Tampa is a pipe dream now, but if we ever get to the Promised Land- already told the wife I'm heading to my pals son's house in Clearwater, and hanging out in the parking lot for the game...

Nero

@vagitron said:

I don't think some of you realize just how much yesterday was about certain things coming to fruition and not the Browns being "superior"

Pouncey hasn't been "good" for a while and villanueva has always been overrated. The teams decision to start feiler over dotson was also ill-advised as dotson is better. Shit happens, the Browns played well but this wasn't a "oh my God, we got owned" as much as it was the end of the line for some in the black and gold. Go back to that first snap. Again not trying to rain on parades. Enjoy your win.

Of course it is about certain things coming to fruition. 11 players take the field, and make plays to score or prevent the other team of scoring. The team that scores more points wins.

Yesterday it was the Browns.

Would they have done the same if your OLine was 5 years younger, and you had Bush and Dupree back?

And what if we had our OL coach, HC, Pro Bowl guard, Delpitt as safety and Greedy and Ward starting?

And what if Ben hadn't injured his elbow, Chuck Noll was HC and the Steel Curtain was playing on defense and we had Mayfield, Chubb and Hunt in the COVID list?

The Browns won. Period. 28-0 in the first quarter, yes. 48-37 final.

The faster you come to terms with that reality the better you'll do.

SdBacker80

@tour2ma said:

Yup...

Tavern talk was about doing what McDermott did in BUF earlier Sunday... calling a TO to give booth more time to review the play.

Yeah that was my loudest yell of the night.

“Call a &&@ing Timeout”

Vambo

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Canton Mike

@gbfan2011 said:

Loved that clown Juju Shuster eating his words!

Me too! He certainly lived up to that old adage, "Open mouth, insert foot", didn't he?

Maybe, someday, he'll learn to NOT load his opponent's gun for him!

Mike