Congrats from a steelers fan
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Well, I'm sad to hear that you have to put up with Cowboy fans on a regular basis...
I live in a small town/borough in Allegheny County, right across the river from the City of Pittsburgh border. I was born here, never lived anywhere else except three months deployed on an Army base in Baghdad (where we managed somehow to still watch every Steeler game).
I was a Steeler fan by choice - neither my parents or anyone in my extended family were into sports when I was growing up.
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LOL, ok thanks for the warning. But I'll try to give you my insights:
I'm actually not that representative of your average Steeler fan (most of them are fairly uneducated and suffer from an extreme case of homerism, and a lot of them are racist). But I have listened to Pittsburgh sports talk radio for about 25 years now and feel like I have pretty good sense of the situation:
1. I'd say it was probably a 5 at game time. Hell, even the week before there were people that were rooting to simply win to eliminate Cleveland, because, well, "they're Cleveland".
2. Now, after the loss, it is probably a 6. Next year Steeler fans will certainly be more amped to "get revenge".
3. Steelers-Ravens about 7 or 8 years ago was an 11. I've seriously never seen a rivalry in sports more intense than that rivalry a few years ago. Now, its around an 8 I would say.
This is no offense to Cleveland or to their fans, but from a Steeler fan perspective the Cleveland-Pittsburgh rivalry had really faded away, mainly because the Steelers were winning the very large majority of those games over the last 10-15 years. But, now that Cleveland has a superior team (and a brighter future, I'd admit) that rivalry is going to grow again for sure.
LOL, ok thanks for the warning. But I'll try to give you my insights:
I'm actually not that representative of your average Steeler fan (most of them are fairly uneducated and suffer from an extreme case of homerism, and a lot of them are racist). But I have listened to Pittsburgh sports talk radio for about 25 years now and feel like I have pretty good sense of the situation:
1. I'd say it was probably a 5 at game time. Hell, even the week before there were people that were rooting to simply win to eliminate Cleveland, because, well, "they're Cleveland".
2. Now, after the loss, it is probably a 6. Next year Steeler fans will certainly be more amped to "get revenge".
3. Steelers-Ravens about 7 or 8 years ago was an 11. I've seriously never seen a rivalry in sports more intense than that rivalry a few years ago. Now, its around an 8 I would say.
This is no offense to Cleveland or to their fans, but from a Steeler fan perspective the Cleveland-Pittsburgh rivalry had really faded away, mainly because the Steelers were winning the very large majority of those games over the last 10-15 years. But, now that Cleveland has a superior team (and a brighter future, I'd admit) that rivalry is going to grow again for sure.
It's the truth, so why would we take offense. Look @ OSU vs Michigan. It's so one-sided the luster is gone.
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LOL, ok thanks for the warning. But I'll try to give you my insights:
I'm actually not that representative of your average Steeler fan (most of them are fairly uneducated and suffer from an extreme case of homerism, and a lot of them are racist). But I have listened to Pittsburgh sports talk radio for about 25 years now and feel like I have pretty good sense of the situation:
1. I'd say it was probably a 5 at game time. Hell, even the week before there were people that were rooting to simply win to eliminate Cleveland, because, well, "they're Cleveland".
2. Now, after the loss, it is probably a 6. Next year Steeler fans will certainly be more amped to "get revenge".
3. Steelers-Ravens about 7 or 8 years ago was an 11. I've seriously never seen a rivalry in sports more intense than that rivalry a few years ago. Now, its around an 8 I would say.
This is no offense to Cleveland or to their fans, but from a Steeler fan perspective the Cleveland-Pittsburgh rivalry had really faded away, mainly because the Steelers were winning the very large majority of those games over the last 10-15 years. But, now that Cleveland has a superior team (and a brighter future, I'd admit) that rivalry is going to grow again for sure.
It's the truth, so why would we take offense. Look @ OSU vs Michigan. It's so one-sided the luster is gone.
It's the truth, so why would we take offense. Look @ OSU vs Michigan. It's so one-sided the luster is gone.
True, but it still runs hotter than CLE-PTG, if for no other reason because of the 10-year war...
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First, thanks for the well wishes and don't be a stranger. Some of us here respect other points of view.
OP here. Yeah, there is a rivalry here.
From your perspective on a scale of 1 to 10...
- What was it Sunday noon?
- What is it now?
- What has it been for the Ravens?
Lastly, and forgetting the scale... How representative of Steeler Nation's take would you say your perspective is?
It's a running thing here with Gipper maintaining the PTG-CLE (or CLE-PTG) rivalry has always been and always will be an 11 (or so) despite our Steeler regular here saying it's not.
I'm guessing (because I have him on "Ignore") that he asked your age (45?), so he can DQ your opinion in his own mind... he's like that.
You've been warned....
First, thanks for the well wishes and don't be a stranger. Some of us here respect other points of view.
From your perspective on a scale of 1 to 10...
- What was it Sunday noon?
- What is it now?
- What has it been for the Ravens?
Lastly, and forgetting the scale... How representative of Steeler Nation's take would you say your perspective is?
It's a running thing here with Gipper maintaining the PTG-CLE (or CLE-PTG) rivalry has always been and always will be an 11 (or so) despite our Steeler regular here saying it's not.
I'm guessing (because I have him on "Ignore") that he asked your age (45?), so he can DQ your opinion in his own mind... he's like that.
You've been warned....
YOU are either stupid, Or Illiterate. Or a liar.
Here is excactly what I said: The Browns/Steelers is the oldest, most storied traditional rivalry in the AFCN. Which is absolutely, empirically true. I also said that the Steelers/Ravens had a rivalry as well. That the Browns/Steelers rivalry waned because of the poor performance of the Browns in those games....and that certainly the Ravens and Steelers had a "hot" rivalry.....out of default because the Browns and Bengals had barely showed up in contention for the AFCN...letting those two go at it.
Go back and check....if you have the guts to try to dispute that....which you don't...because we know you are a complete gutless C-hole.
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45, why?
45, why?
Because I just wondered if you were around for the "Old Days". Pre-1999.
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Well, I'm sad to hear that you have to put up with Cowboy fans on a regular basis...
I live in a small town/borough in Allegheny County, right across the river from the City of Pittsburgh border. I was born here, never lived anywhere else except three months deployed on an Army base in Baghdad (where we managed somehow to still watch every Steeler game).
I was a Steeler fan by choice - neither my parents or anyone in my extended family were into sports when I was growing up.
Well, I'm sad to hear that you have to put up with Cowboy fans on a regular basis...
Oh... they weren't much of a problem this year. Not even when I went to the Browns game at AT&T back in the early days of Covid (yes, I bought tix on an impulse and was apprehensive the entire time I was there).
But the doors were open at both ends and the roof was closed (God apparently has Sunday Ticket) so there was plenty of air movement and a high percentage of masks.
Anyway, I saw a W and nothing ever developed virus-wise so all is well.
Hope you and yours are happy and safe.
Forgot to mention my son-in-law is a life-long 'Boyz fan. How a kid born and raised in northern NJ becomes one is something he can't really explain, but it makes gift shopping for him pretty easy.
My born-in-Texas daughter is of course a Browns fan.
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Rivalries are mostly with fans now-a-days. So many of the players float around the league. Although, to the core players on the team, the rivalry can exist.
Thanks for your kind wishes Fan. It's more fun to hate each other when we're BOTH good.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
Always happy to look forward to a good rivalry game - can't avoid it being a Ohio State fan!
Sure, last 5-10 yrs CLE-PIT has been pretty one-sided, but :
1) this season was likely the end of the line for both Pouncey and Roethlisberger [they're going to retire at the same time] and
2) Because Pittsburgh has invested in the first 3 rounds only 1 draft pick in the OL since the 2012 reloading [2018/3 Chukwuma Okorafor] and only 4 picks in the DL.. Pittsburgh's LOS in the very near future may have more weaknesses than strengths. Heyward [10 seasons], Tuitt [7 seasons].. how long can they play at their contract's level?
I'd think the natural state of AFCN things is for CLE-PIT to be a spirited rivalry and I'd hope you'd think the same.
The fun thing is.. Even if you disagree, we'll still be playing at least twice a year!
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Rivalries are mostly with fans now-a-days. So many of the players float around the league. Although, to the core players on the team, the rivalry can exist.
Thanks for your kind wishes Fan. It's more fun to hate each other when we're BOTH good.
Rivalries are mostly with fans now-a-days. So many of the players float around the league.
Hadn't really thought about the impact of FA on Pro rivalries... it sure doesn't enhance them.
First thought was, "but college rosters change all the time", but those colleges often have longer histories and they can fuel rivalries across 4 or more major sports...
Probably 6 in the Big 10: Foortball, basketball, wrestling, hockey, soccer and track... OK... 5-1/2...
Now thought is about sports carryover between cities...
Both CLE and PTG have NFL and MLB, but that's it... and Indians (we are still the Indians for now, right?) vs. Pirates ain't exactly an active thing. We have NBA; they don't. They have NHL; we don't.
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Most of the people here are way old to understand this reference but... Throw him a pokeball.
Most of the people here are way old to understand this reference but... Throw him a pokeball.
Or a Cabbagepatch Kid.?
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Always happy to look forward to a good rivalry game - can't avoid it being a Ohio State fan!
Sure, last 5-10 yrs CLE-PIT has been pretty one-sided, but :
1) this season was likely the end of the line for both Pouncey and Roethlisberger [they're going to retire at the same time] and
2) Because Pittsburgh has invested in the first 3 rounds only 1 draft pick in the OL since the 2012 reloading [2018/3 Chukwuma Okorafor] and only 4 picks in the DL.. Pittsburgh's LOS in the very near future may have more weaknesses than strengths. Heyward [10 seasons], Tuitt [7 seasons].. how long can they play at their contract's level?
I'd think the natural state of AFCN things is for CLE-PIT to be a spirited rivalry and I'd hope you'd think the same.
The fun thing is.. Even if you disagree, we'll still be playing at least twice a year!
Sure, last 5-10 yrs CLE-PIT has been pretty one-sided, but :
Problem is that it's rarely been anything but one-sided.
We dominated them in the 50 and 60's, although they did make a move in the late-50's winning 4 of 6 in '58 thru '60.
They owned us in the 70's and early 80's.
Only on the approach to the mid-80's did the rivalry really heat up and stayed fairly hot thru '92.
Of course '93 was the strike year and we won, but the rest of that decade was basically theirs.
And don't have to go thru what the rebirth has wrought... at least until now...
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/game_query.cgi?tm1=cle&tm2=pit&yr=all
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Or a Cabbagepatch Kid.?
Yepp... It flied right above you...
(pokeballs are used to capture pokemons, the main goal being capturing them all so you had one of each kind. Thus "throw him a pokeball" is a slang used when someone finds someone special or rare. I never played Pokemon though, but it's a thing of kids of the 90s)
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Or a Cabbagepatch Kid.?
Yepp... It flied right above you...
(pokeballs are used to capture pokemons, the main goal being capturing them all so you had one of each kind. Thus "throw him a pokeball" is a slang used when someone finds someone special or rare. I never played Pokemon though, but it's a thing of kids of the 90s)
Yepp... It flied right above you...
(pokeballs are used to capture pokemons, the main goal being capturing them all so you had one of each kind. Thus "throw him a pokeball" is a slang used when someone finds someone special or rare. I never played Pokemon though, but it's a thing of kids of the 90s)
Yeah, but how long can you keep a hula hoop going? And do you have a coonskin cap anywhere??
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Or a Cabbagepatch Kid.?
Yepp... It flied right above you...
(pokeballs are used to capture pokemons, the main goal being capturing them all so you had one of each kind. Thus "throw him a pokeball" is a slang used when someone finds someone special or rare. I never played Pokemon though, but it's a thing of kids of the 90s)
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
However, the past tense of "fry" is not "frew", it is "fried"...
Oh English... you tricky, tricky language.
Reminds me of a George Carlin bit you'll love... if I can find it...
Turns out there's a great Carlin bit on idioms, but the one I was thinking of was by Gallagher...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Sure, last 5-10 yrs CLE-PIT has been pretty one-sided, but :
Problem is that it's rarely been anything but one-sided.
We dominated them in the 50 and 60's, although they did make a move in the late-50's winning 4 of 6 in '58 thru '60.
They owned us in the 70's and early 80's.
Only on the approach to the mid-80's did the rivalry really heat up and stayed fairly hot thru '92.
Of course '93 was the strike year and we won, but the rest of that decade was basically theirs.
And don't have to go thru what the rebirth has wrought... at least until now...
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/game_query.cgi?tm1=cle&tm2=pit&yr=all
Problem is that it's rarely been anything but one-sided.
We dominated them in the 50 and 60's, although they did make a move in the late-50's winning 4 of 6 in '58 thru '60.
They owned us in the 70's and early 80's.
Only on the approach to the mid-80's did the rivalry really heat up and stayed fairly hot thru '92.
Of course '93 was the strike year and we won, but the rest of that decade was basically theirs.
And don't have to go thru what the rebirth has wrought... at least until now...
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/game_query.cgi?tm1=cle&tm2=pit&yr=all
Thanks for repeating what I said several times in the other rivalry discussion.
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However, the past tense of "fry" is not "frew", it is "fried"...
Oh English... you tricky, tricky language.
Reminds me of a George Carlin bit you'll love... if I can find it...
Turns out there's a great Carlin bit on idioms, but the one I was thinking of was by Gallagher...
Oh English... you tricky, tricky language.
"English is not a language, it's 3 languages wearing a trench coat pretending to be 1."
If you ever think English is not ridiculous, just remember: Read and lead rhyme and read and lead rhyme, but read and lead don't rhyme, and neither do read and lead.
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