Week 19: CLE @ KC.... they play some crazy little football there and we're gonna get us some...
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Here is how your Sunday is going to go.
you will be crushed.
Cleveland, having invested a lot of emotion and energy into their first playoff win in decades, vs long time rival Pittsburg, is going to come into KC vs a well rested Chiefs team that was 10 in points allowed. Cleveland spent their whole wad vs the Steelers.
You will look at KC’s defensive rankings and think to yourself that Cleveland should be able to run VS the Chiefs based on those rankings.
What you don’t see in those rankings is that most of those runs come as teams are trailing and KC is playing pass defense. KC has allowed the fewest receptions to WR’s in the NFL this year.....a major accomplishment considering teams are usually playing from behind.
It might also be noteworthy that KC had a game where they turned the ball over 4 times in the first half, lost the TO battle 4-0 for the game. They led at halftime.
Pat Mahomes has never walked off a football field after playing 4 quarters of playoff football, with his team losing.
KC, with Pat Mahomes, is 2-0 in PLAYOFF games in wich the opponents block a punt and return it for a TD.
KC is not Pittsburgh.
Here is how your Sunday is going to go.
you will be crushed.
Cleveland, having invested a lot of emotion and energy into their first playoff win in decades, vs long time rival Pittsburg, is going to come into KC vs a well rested Chiefs team that was 10 in points allowed. Cleveland spent their whole wad vs the Steelers.
I don't think we will win, but man this kind of sentences always seem stupid for me.
If you're right, congrats, you have the same opinion as the vast majority of football fans.
If you're wrong, prepare yourself for eating crow.
It's a meh/lose situation for me. Not really worth it.
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Here is how your Sunday is going to go.
you will be crushed.
Cleveland, having invested a lot of emotion and energy into their first playoff win in decades, vs long time rival Pittsburg, is going to come into KC vs a well rested Chiefs team that was 10 in points allowed. Cleveland spent their whole wad vs the Steelers.
You will look at KC’s defensive rankings and think to yourself that Cleveland should be able to run VS the Chiefs based on those rankings.
What you don’t see in those rankings is that most of those runs come as teams are trailing and KC is playing pass defense. KC has allowed the fewest receptions to WR’s in the NFL this year.....a major accomplishment considering teams are usually playing from behind.
It might also be noteworthy that KC had a game where they turned the ball over 4 times in the first half, lost the TO battle 4-0 for the game. They led at halftime.
Pat Mahomes has never walked off a football field after playing 4 quarters of playoff football, with his team losing.
KC, with Pat Mahomes, is 2-0 in PLAYOFF games in wich the opponents block a punt and return it for a TD.
KC is not Pittsburgh.
You will look at KC’s defensive rankings and think to yourself that Cleveland should be able to run VS the Chiefs based on those rankings.
What you don’t see in those rankings is that most of those runs come as teams are trailing and KC is playing pass defense. KC has allowed the fewest receptions to WR’s in the NFL this year.....a major accomplishment considering teams are usually playing from behind.
Behind? Hmmmmm
- 3 point win in OT. Allowed 183 rushing
- 8 point loss... allowed 144 rushing
- 2 point win... allowed 104
- 4 point win... allowed 89
- 3 point... 75
- 6 point... 179
- 6 point... 80
- 3 point... 60
- 3 point... 90
I'll let week 17 slide.
So from the above it seems that when you stop the run, and in some games you do, that you can't stop the pass?
Just as a quality check let's look at the Top Ten rushing teams for 2020 and see how many you played and how you did...
Ravens? Nope... Titans? Negative... Browns? Not yet... Pats? Yup... held them to 185? Can that be correct?
Oh wait... you picked Stidham twice, Hoyer once and strip sacked Hoyer to boot. So Pats turned it over 4 times... and you won by 16. lol... Moving on...
Vikings, Saints. Cards... No, yup, nein... Beat NOLA by 3 with Brees going 15-34? Awesome... Next!
Pack, Eagles Rams... No, no and no...
Awesome run D there... batted .500 keeping the 2, top ten rushing teams under 150 yards.... wait, 160... wait 170... wait...
Did I mention I love your new avatar?
What else ya got, son?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
My top concerns about KC are obviously
#1 Tyreek Hill
#2 Travis Kelce
#3 Patrick Mahomes
And you still have Watkins, Hardman, and Edwards-Helaire. Then you add in the intangibles that Mahomes brings is going to spread our defense thin.
If you take into consideration what the Browns had to overcome to get here, I think this is a winnable game. We must run the ball and win in the trenches and we need to prevent explosive plays. If we let Hill take over the game, it's going to be a long day.
What scares me is how they seemed to roll coverage away from Claypool in the Steelers game and allowed them to get back in it. I say lock Hill down and do the best you can against Kelce and make someone else beat you.
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My top concerns about KC are obviously
#1 Tyreek Hill
#2 Travis Kelce
#3 Patrick Mahomes
And you still have Watkins, Hardman, and Edwards-Helaire. Then you add in the intangibles that Mahomes brings is going to spread our defense thin.
If you take into consideration what the Browns had to overcome to get here, I think this is a winnable game. We must run the ball and win in the trenches and we need to prevent explosive plays. If we let Hill take over the game, it's going to be a long day.
What scares me is how they seemed to roll coverage away from Claypool in the Steelers game and allowed them to get back in it. I say lock Hill down and do the best you can against Kelce and make someone else beat you.
My top concerns about KC are obviously
#1 Tyreek Hill
#2 Travis Kelce
#3 Patrick Mahomes
And you still have Watkins, Hardman, and Edwards-Helaire. Then you add in the intangibles that Mahomes brings is going to spread our defense thin.
If you take into consideration what the Browns had to overcome to get here, I think this is a winnable game. We must run the ball and win in the trenches and we need to prevent explosive plays. If we let Hill take over the game, it's going to be a long day.
What scares me is how they seemed to roll coverage away from Claypool in the Steelers game and allowed them to get back in it. I say lock Hill down and do the best you can against Kelce and make someone else beat you.
Edwards Helaire is out. They are deep with pass catchers/explosive talent. Their line is vulnerable.
We do not have the horses this year to contain these guys.
We need rust and poor execution to stall some drives. Maybe some red zones stops and a turnover. Maybe a key guy or two out.
And it’s no secret it’s Chubb and Hunt 45-50 times in rushes and short passes this Sunday shortening this game.
When I think of our offseason strategy this year. It is obviously fixing our Defense. Adding a Lamar Jackson spy and tackle specialist and an interior pass rusher to disrupt a Guy like Mahomes are at the top of my list. Along with Delpit and Ward playing 16 games plus playoffs.
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Here is how your Sunday is going to go.
you will be crushed.
Cleveland, having invested a lot of emotion and energy into their first playoff win in decades, vs long time rival Pittsburg, is going to come into KC vs a well rested Chiefs team that was 10 in points allowed. Cleveland spent their whole wad vs the Steelers.
You will look at KC’s defensive rankings and think to yourself that Cleveland should be able to run VS the Chiefs based on those rankings.
What you don’t see in those rankings is that most of those runs come as teams are trailing and KC is playing pass defense. KC has allowed the fewest receptions to WR’s in the NFL this year.....a major accomplishment considering teams are usually playing from behind.
It might also be noteworthy that KC had a game where they turned the ball over 4 times in the first half, lost the TO battle 4-0 for the game. They led at halftime.
Pat Mahomes has never walked off a football field after playing 4 quarters of playoff football, with his team losing.
KC, with Pat Mahomes, is 2-0 in PLAYOFF games in wich the opponents block a punt and return it for a TD.
KC is not Pittsburgh.
Here is how your Sunday is going to go.
you will be crushed.
Cleveland, having invested a lot of emotion and energy into their first playoff win in decades, vs long time rival Pittsburg, is going to come into KC vs a well rested Chiefs team that was 10 in points allowed. Cleveland spent their whole wad vs the Steelers.
You will look at KC’s defensive rankings and think to yourself that Cleveland should be able to run VS the Chiefs based on those rankings.
What you don’t see in those rankings is that most of those runs come as teams are trailing and KC is playing pass defense. KC has allowed the fewest receptions to WR’s in the NFL this year.....a major accomplishment considering teams are usually playing from behind.
It might also be noteworthy that KC had a game where they turned the ball over 4 times in the first half, lost the TO battle 4-0 for the game. They led at halftime.
Pat Mahomes has never walked off a football field after playing 4 quarters of playoff football, with his team losing.
KC, with Pat Mahomes, is 2-0 in PLAYOFF games in wich the opponents block a punt and return it for a TD.
KC is not Pittsburgh.
So....where do you come off thinking that we Browns fans think that KC is anything like Pittsburgh? WE understand it is a daunting task to take on the Chiefs. Does that mean that the Browns have to be a-scared? They WILL show up.....with all their flaws.
But I have just 3 words for you: Phi Slamma Jamma
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My top concerns about KC are obviously
#1 Tyreek Hill
#2 Travis Kelce
#3 Patrick Mahomes
And you still have Watkins, Hardman, and Edwards-Helaire. Then you add in the intangibles that Mahomes brings is going to spread our defense thin.
If you take into consideration what the Browns had to overcome to get here, I think this is a winnable game. We must run the ball and win in the trenches and we need to prevent explosive plays. If we let Hill take over the game, it's going to be a long day.
What scares me is how they seemed to roll coverage away from Claypool in the Steelers game and allowed them to get back in it. I say lock Hill down and do the best you can against Kelce and make someone else beat you.
My top concerns about KC are obviously
#1 Tyreek Hill
#2 Travis Kelce
#3 Patrick Mahomes
And you still have Watkins, Hardman, and Edwards-Helaire
You forgot Reed and Bienemy... that Offense has more wrinkles than a $60 suit...
So frickin' inventive...
This is a pure ball control game for us. Either way the coin toss goes we should end up with the ball first. Then if we go eat 7+ minutes and 75-yds...
We do not want to play this game behind more than one score... and preferably that score is a FG.
We make them play from behind... maximize their play count by frustrating their chunk plays... then we have a shot.
In short we try to make a team with superior weapons, but the same weaknesses, look like the Steelers.
We know Mahomes ain't Ben, but in that there's both hope and danger. Danger in that he's mobile... and then some. Hope in that because he knows he is mobile he sometimes holds the ball a bit too long and takes a sack. Takes a very disciplined rush to get him, but he is gettable so long as he's not left a crease to escape thru.
Of course, they're ground attack ain't bad either.
For us to win job 1 is to win the war in trenches... both ways... but it's even more important that our DL does so.
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Mods... Fine by me to merge this into ATOM's thread... but you have to edit "Week 19:" into his title.
Hey! It worked this past week!
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We are going to crush you.
We are going to crush you.
who the fuck R U
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Mods... Fine by me to merge this into ATOM's thread... but you have to edit "Week 19:" into his title.
Hey! It worked this past week!
what ? wait ? huh ?
what ? wait ? huh ?
lmao...
Swear to God, dude...
I copy/pasted the link from the main page and edited nothing into your OP.
Let's try that again...
lmao x 2...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Week 19: Browns at Chiefs - The John Dorsey Bowl ?
I feel strangely optimistic about this game.
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Week 19: Browns at Chiefs - The John Dorsey Bowl ?
I feel strangely optimistic about this game.
Week 19: Browns at Chiefs - The John Dorsey Bowl ?
I feel strangely optimistic about this game.
i felt that last week and am going with it this week
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Week 19: Browns at Chiefs - The John Dorsey Bowl ?
I feel strangely optimistic about this game.
I feel strangely optimistic about this game.
Ditto... I'm thinking it's a matter of not having fully come down from the late Sunday high we all shared.
But more dangerously.... I've caught myself thinking ahead.
And while that may be permissible for mere fans, I chastise myself when it happens.
#onestepatatime
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I feel strangely optimistic about this game.
Ditto... I'm thinking it's a matter of not having fully come down from the late Sunday high we all shared.
But more dangerously.... I've caught myself thinking ahead.
And while that may be permissible for mere fans, I chastise myself when it happens.
#onestepatatime
Ditto... I'm thinking it's a matter of not having fully come down from the late Sunday high we all shared.
But more dangerously.... I've caught myself thinking ahead.
And while that may be permissible for mere fans, I chastise myself when it happens.
#onestepatatime
I won't go so far to predict a victory, this obviously is a rough matchup for us, but...
Never underestimate a team that feels like they have nothing to lose.
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Ahh princess on a steeple and all the pretty people
They're all drinking, thinking that they've got it made
Exchanging all precious gifts
But you better take your diamond ring, you better pawn it babe
You used to be so amused
At Napoleon in rags and the language that he used
Go to him he calls you, you can't refuseWhen you ain't got nothing, you got nothing to lose
You're invisible now, you've got no secrets to concealHow does it feel, ah how does it feel?
To be on your own, with no direction home
Like a complete unknown, like a rolling stone... - R. Zimmerman"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Man... our Oline has had some people go on IR...
I see they listed Jackson as a hamstring injury... I would have thought it would have been from 3rd degree burns...
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Week 19: Browns at Chiefs - The John Dorsey Bowl ?
I feel strangely optimistic about this game.
Week 19: Browns at Chiefs - The John Dorsey Bowl ?
I feel strangely optimistic about this game.
i felt that last week and am going with it this week
Unlike Tour and his Xmas tree I am not going to risk jinxing them, so I will carry the same tune I did going into the Pitt game-----we're toast. KC beats the point spread.?
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https://www.brownsnation.com/sammy-watkins-doesnt-view-the-browns-as-competition/
Sammy Watkins Doesn’t View The Browns As Competition
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Worse than "grey faces" I think. LOL. Our Browns don't NEED
bulletin board material.
But Baker has been proving the doubters wrong all his life. He's the perfect qb to inspire everyone around him to fight the odds.
But the Chiefs have serious talent. It's who wants it more - and I don't think the Chiefs are hungry.
Should be another blockbuster.
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