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  • @vagitron said:

    Shall I start focusing on you? 

    What are you going to focus on me? Are you going to make up for your lack of humor and wit with your lack of content?

    We are all dumber for interacting with you.  Troll away, baby boy.  Or just delete your account - nobody will miss you.

    @unsympathetic said:

    What are you going to focus on me? Are you going to make up for your lack of humor and wit with your lack of content?

    We are all dumber for interacting with you.  Troll away, baby boy.  Or just delete your account - nobody will miss you.

    Bro, i barely remember anything you post and I've been here a long ass time.  I talk with several people privately here and like to think I'm friendly enough to go out for beers.  I plan to do just that when the opportunity arises. I was hoping it would be this years draft but I don't see that happening with our countries unwillingness to deal with this virus appropriately. Get over yourself.  I'm not here to flex or troll, if i did those things don't you think i'd have been banned already? Hell the only time I've been banned is for losing a bet.  I really am going to take a break from here as I always do and you all will be stuck with gippers rants and history quizzes no one gives a single shit about.  How you all let that ego get so big is beyond me.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Oh thanks... punish us all because of a few... 😉

    But what if we win?

    A few? I know there are a lot of people that just read but it's more than a few my dude.  I hope you do win, truly but I will be surprised if you do all of which isn't to say the Steelers would fair any better.  We have a major coordinator problem (Fichtner and Butler) neither of which were selected by tomlin but instead inherited because it's how the rooney's do things from a loyalty stand point.  It's nice to a point but becomes problematic especially when the results are the same for an extended period of time.  The Steelers need to retool a little bit and they will but we may have a couple rough seasons and I'm ready for it. I am however tired of the absolutely brainless and unfounded opinions and when I fire back the hive comes alive.  Need evidence go look at each time Gipper responds to me and who is liking his posts like a little house elf.  I blocked gipper by the way and it feels great. 

    @vagitron said:

    We have a major coordinator problem (Fichtner and Butler)

    Coord's are something you've complained about for a while now, e.g., Todd Haley.

    Who do you think were your last good ones? And if you ruled the world who that you can legally poach, or hire off the street, would you go after?

    I'll only mention that after your second half vs. Indy, that if the rumors were true, then I think Ben has a future as an OC if and when he wants it.

    And, yes, a few... just feels like more when one is the object of their "affection." 😉

  • @vagitron said:

    We have a major coordinator problem (Fichtner and Butler)

    Coord's are something you've complained about for a while now, e.g., Todd Haley.

    Who do you think were your last good ones? And if you ruled the world who that you can legally poach, or hire off the street, would you go after?

    I'll only mention that after your second half vs. Indy, that if the rumors were true, then I think Ben has a future as an OC if and when he wants it.

    And, yes, a few... just feels like more when one is the object of their "affection." 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    Coord's are something you've complained about for a while now, e.g., Todd Haley.

    Who do you think were your last good ones? And if you ruled the world who that you can legally poach, or hire off the street, would you go after?

    I'll only mention that after your second half vs. Indy, that if the rumors were true, then I think Ben has a future as an OC if and when he wants it.

    And, yes, a few... just feels like more when one is the object of their "affection." 😉

    I don't believe the Steelers have ever had a rockstar offensive coordinator.  I love the Rooney family but i sometimes think their loyalty gets in the way of progress.  I frankly would be fine with Matt Canada getting the job if it has to be in house.  I go back and forth on it but Steve Sarkisian would be pretty legit as a OC even with the skeletons.  DC is far more difficult, leslie frazier as a realistic option but he's not going to move laterally. The guy in NE who runs the show would be the be all end all DC but i'd want to vomit every. single. day and it will obviously never happen.

    As of now I just want Randy gone, his offense is predictable and for me he's gutless. A good example from Sunday, derek watt didn't have a single carry all season.  I'm still trying to figure out that signing as we just didn't use the guy.  Sunday we use him on a dive with motions and he picks up the first.  Awesome.  Randy then trots him out again via the same play, the same formation and the same motions and it gets blown up.  I wonder why? Randy fucking strikes again. Sunday there are also rumors that tomlin called the defense instead of butler and if thats true there needs to be answers there too as it was a horrendous gameplan. 

    The leading sack team in the league can't get to the QB on a depleted offensive line?  It was downright shameful and despite how some of you are feeling about my comments over the last two days it really was a lot of the Steelers just shitting down their own legs.  All of which isn't me trying to take credit from the Browns. Baker was getting rid of the ball in a hurry and doing it accurately. The Steelers also still have linebackers occasionally covering receivers and while some of our guys do a fine job of it, it's not something that should ever really happen. It was a incredibly frustrating game for me but a lot of that frustration comes from internal bs and not the game itself. Teams obviously keyed on ben getting rid of it quickly, knocking down passes at the line etc. (Tipped balls also happened a ton this year which you can definitely credit defenses with but a lot of that also stems from unimaginative play calls) 

    The Steelers need to clean house in certain facets and I hope we are down at least one OC and I wouldn't be upset to see Butler gone as well.  Tomlin should have some heat too but I definitely don't want to see him gone.  You can't go ten years with 3 playoff wins with the roster we have and a franchise qb.  The fact of the matter is the Steelers have underachieved for a long time and a long hard look needs to happen. Tomlin didn't pick butler, he was inherited and Fichtner is buddy, buddy with Ben and that's also a problem. If he and ben are a package deal I'd honestly rather see them both go and that hurts to say. 

  • @unsympathetic said:

    What are you going to focus on me? Are you going to make up for your lack of humor and wit with your lack of content?

    We are all dumber for interacting with you.  Troll away, baby boy.  Or just delete your account - nobody will miss you.

    Bro, i barely remember anything you post and I've been here a long ass time.  I talk with several people privately here and like to think I'm friendly enough to go out for beers.  I plan to do just that when the opportunity arises. I was hoping it would be this years draft but I don't see that happening with our countries unwillingness to deal with this virus appropriately. Get over yourself.  I'm not here to flex or troll, if i did those things don't you think i'd have been banned already? Hell the only time I've been banned is for losing a bet.  I really am going to take a break from here as I always do and you all will be stuck with gippers rants and history quizzes no one gives a single shit about.  How you all let that ego get so big is beyond me.

    @vagitron said:

    Get over yourself.  I'm not here to flex or troll

    You first, ass clown.  Take your shitposting elsewhere.

    @vagitron said:

    and like to think I'm friendly enough to go out for beers

    What you do with crossdressers is between you and Icecube.

  • @nero said:

    One week you're saying that the Browns won against a backup team and the next one, being the Browns the one with more adversities, it was only the Steelers losing. 

    If every time the Browns win the Steelers there is going to be some kind of excuse instead of some credit, then I'm sorry but I'm not that interested in your opinion. 

    I have given credit plenty of times. I just think those that believe the demise of the steelers is here is comical.  I guess we are going to find out.  I'm not happy with the steelers and it has absolutely zero to do with losing to the browns. 

    @vagitron said:

    I have given credit plenty of times. I just think those that believe the demise of the steelers is here is comical.  I guess we are going to find out.  I'm not happy with the steelers and it has absolutely zero to do with losing to the browns. 

    Of course it does.     If the Steelers had not lost two games in a row to the Browns you would not be unhappy with them. 

    And I don't know if it is the demise of the Steelers....but it may be the demise of  BR, Pouncey, Villanueva,  Joe Haden, Jujubee may be gone in FA,  maybe Dupree, maybe Connor and several other  current Steelers.  Along with being  14 million over the cap...which means  some of them gotta go if you want to try to replenish some talent. 

  • Cool... a beer summit...

    Rolling Rock or Yuengling?

    I am partial to the latter...

  • @tour2ma said:

    Oh thanks... punish us all because of a few... 😉

    But what if we win?

    A few? I know there are a lot of people that just read but it's more than a few my dude.  I hope you do win, truly but I will be surprised if you do all of which isn't to say the Steelers would fair any better.  We have a major coordinator problem (Fichtner and Butler) neither of which were selected by tomlin but instead inherited because it's how the rooney's do things from a loyalty stand point.  It's nice to a point but becomes problematic especially when the results are the same for an extended period of time.  The Steelers need to retool a little bit and they will but we may have a couple rough seasons and I'm ready for it. I am however tired of the absolutely brainless and unfounded opinions and when I fire back the hive comes alive.  Need evidence go look at each time Gipper responds to me and who is liking his posts like a little house elf.  I blocked gipper by the way and it feels great. 

    @vagitron said:

    A few? I know there are a lot of people that just read but it's more than a few my dude.  I hope you do win, truly but I will be surprised if you do all of which isn't to say the Steelers would fair any better.  We have a major coordinator problem (Fichtner and Butler) neither of which were selected by tomlin but instead inherited because it's how the rooney's do things from a loyalty stand point.  It's nice to a point but becomes problematic especially when the results are the same for an extended period of time.  The Steelers need to retool a little bit and they will but we may have a couple rough seasons and I'm ready for it. I am however tired of the absolutely brainless and unfounded opinions and when I fire back the hive comes alive.  Need evidence go look at each time Gipper responds to me and who is liking his posts like a little house elf.  I blocked gipper by the way and it feels great. 

    If you don't want to read  brainless and unfounded opinions....quit posting on here.

    And you can block me all you want...that will not stop me from calling out your delusional opinions.  And everyone else can see that. 

  • @unsympathetic said:

    What are you going to focus on me? Are you going to make up for your lack of humor and wit with your lack of content?

    We are all dumber for interacting with you.  Troll away, baby boy.  Or just delete your account - nobody will miss you.

    Bro, i barely remember anything you post and I've been here a long ass time.  I talk with several people privately here and like to think I'm friendly enough to go out for beers.  I plan to do just that when the opportunity arises. I was hoping it would be this years draft but I don't see that happening with our countries unwillingness to deal with this virus appropriately. Get over yourself.  I'm not here to flex or troll, if i did those things don't you think i'd have been banned already? Hell the only time I've been banned is for losing a bet.  I really am going to take a break from here as I always do and you all will be stuck with gippers rants and history quizzes no one gives a single shit about.  How you all let that ego get so big is beyond me.

    @vagitron said:

    Bro, i barely remember anything you post and I've been here a long ass time.  I talk with several people privately here and like to think I'm friendly enough to go out for beers.  I plan to do just that when the opportunity arises. I was hoping it would be this years draft but I don't see that happening with our countries unwillingness to deal with this virus appropriately. Get over yourself.  I'm not here to flex or troll, if i did those things don't you think i'd have been banned already? Hell the only time I've been banned is for losing a bet.  I really am going to take a break from here as I always do and you all will be stuck with gippers rants and history quizzes no one gives a single shit about.  How you all let that ego get so big is beyond me.

    Well....at least you admit that you are ignorant when it comes to history. 

    As far as the beer is concerned....we all expect you to cater then next tailgate...at your cost.   (If/when that can happen). 

    And you do troll constantly.  Its just that this board doesn't punish you for that.  How long is it you say you have been here? 

  • Cool... a beer summit...

    Rolling Rock or Yuengling?

    I am partial to the latter...

    @tour2ma said:

    Cool... a beer summit...

    Rolling Rock or Yuengling?

    I am partial to the latter...

    Neither. Lol. 

  • @vagitron said:

    Get over yourself.  I'm not here to flex or troll

    You first, ass clown.  Take your shitposting elsewhere.

    @vagitron said:

    and like to think I'm friendly enough to go out for beers

    What you do with crossdressers is between you and Icecube.

    @unsympathetic said:

    You first, ass clown.  Take your shitposting elsewhere.

    What you do with crossdressers is between you and Icecube.

    What a weak fucking reply. ?

  • @vagitron said:

    We have a major coordinator problem (Fichtner and Butler)

    Coord's are something you've complained about for a while now, e.g., Todd Haley.

    Who do you think were your last good ones? And if you ruled the world who that you can legally poach, or hire off the street, would you go after?

    I'll only mention that after your second half vs. Indy, that if the rumors were true, then I think Ben has a future as an OC if and when he wants it.

    And, yes, a few... just feels like more when one is the object of their "affection." 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    Coord's are something you've complained about for a while now, e.g., Todd Haley.

    Who do you think were your last good ones? And if you ruled the world who that you can legally poach, or hire off the street, would you go after?

    I'll only mention that after your second half vs. Indy, that if the rumors were true, then I think Ben has a future as an OC if and when he wants it.

    And, yes, a few... just feels like more when one is the object of their "affection." 😉

    Didn't he say just  that  Tomlin "inherited"  both Fichtner and  Butler?  

    Uhm....you mention Todd Haley....he was OC under Tomlin....so Tomlin must have chosen Fichtner.   And Butler replaced Dick LeBeau....who was DC under Tomlin.    Is the Vagina trying to say that   Tomlin has no say so whatsoever in who serves as coordinators under him? 

  • Cool... a beer summit...

    Rolling Rock or Yuengling?

    I am partial to the latter...

    @tour2ma said:

    Cool... a beer summit...

    Rolling Rock or Yuengling?

    I am partial to the latter...

    Jesus H. Christ..are you  a Quisling at everything? 

  • @vagitron said:

    because some of you fucking deserve it. 

    Oh thanks... punish us all because of a few... 😉

    But what if we win?

    @tour2ma said:

    Oh thanks... punish us all because of a few... 😉

    But what if we win?

    I don't know what to do with myself with gipper blocked. It's a revelation. ?

  • @tour2ma said:

    Oh thanks... punish us all because of a few... 😉

    But what if we win?

    I don't know what to do with myself with gipper blocked. It's a revelation. ?

    @vagitron said:

    I don't know what to do with myself with gipper blocked. It's a revelation. ?

    You masturbate, as usual.

    Or you blubber and repeat yourself. 

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  • @tour2ma said:

    Cool... a beer summit...

    Rolling Rock or Yuengling?

    I am partial to the latter...

    Neither. Lol. 

    @vagitron said:

    Neither. Lol. 

    OK... something from the tap at...

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  • @vagitron said:

    Neither. Lol. 

    OK... something from the tap at...

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    @tour2ma said:

    OK... something from the tap at...

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    Good food, I haven't been there in a while tho. I'm a bit of a beer snob these days. I Drank too much yueng growing up. Lol

  • @tour2ma said:

    OK... something from the tap at...

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    Good food, I haven't been there in a while tho. I'm a bit of a beer snob these days. I Drank too much yueng growing up. Lol

    @vagitron said:

    Good food, I haven't been their in a while tho. I'm a bit of a beer snob these days. I Drank too much yueng growing up. Lol

    Stopped there for lunch in June, 2018 on drive up from Alabama with the daughter and her fam (3 grandkids) on a coaster trek... Cedar Point and Holiday World.

    Food was as good as I remembered as was their Bock bier on tap...  a German import IIRC.

  • @vagitron said:

    Good food, I haven't been their in a while tho. I'm a bit of a beer snob these days. I Drank too much yueng growing up. Lol

    Stopped there for lunch in June, 2018 on drive up from Alabama with the daughter and her fam (3 grandkids) on a coaster trek... Cedar Point and Holiday World.

    Food was as good as I remembered as was their Bock bier on tap...  a German import IIRC.

    @tour2ma said:

    Stopped there for lunch in June, 2018 on drive up from Alabama with the daughter and her fam (3 grandkids) on a coaster trek... Cedar Point and Holiday World.

    Food was as good as I remembered as was their Bock bier on tap...  a German import IIRC.

    It's been a really long time for me. I'd guess early 2000's. Where I live now (delaware, Ohio) has really great food so I don't venture out as often as some may otherwise chasing the goodness. Def have always had good food and solid beer. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Stopped there for lunch in June, 2018 on drive up from Alabama with the daughter and her fam (3 grandkids) on a coaster trek... Cedar Point and Holiday World.

    Food was as good as I remembered as was their Bock bier on tap...  a German import IIRC.

    It's been a really long time for me. I'd guess early 2000's. Where I live now (delaware, Ohio) has really great food so I don't venture out as often as some may otherwise chasing the goodness. Def have always had good food and solid beer. 

    @vagitron said:

    It's been a really long time for me. I'd guess early 2000's. Where I live now (delaware, Ohio) has really great food so I don't venture out as often as some may otherwise chasing the goodness. Def have always had good food and solid beer. 

    Bit east of you, but you don't happen to remember a restaurants named Bonvechio's, do you? Around Wainwright somewhere... south of New Philadelphia.

    My Dad loved the place and we'd make the fairly long drive down from CLE a couple times a year for dinner... and a long drive back home.

    Primarily a steakhouse they used to age beef on premises in their cellar. Dad told me you could go down and pick out your own steak, but he did not recommend it. Said he did it once and damn near couldn't eat the thing after seeing the mold on it.

    May have closed in the early 60's... seems like I was pretty small when we stopped making that long-ass drive.