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  • @dutch-oven said:

    Vince Lombardi was the superior NFL head coach, and he won the first two Super Bowls.

    Paul Brown, though, was the far more innovative head coach. 

    why cause he had some crazy one liners like win it for the gipper and take one for the team or what ever that dim witted tooth gapped jerk off said 

    screw it call it the SYD trophy 

    @atom said:

    why cause he had some crazy one liners like win it for the gipper and take one for the team or what ever that dim witted tooth gapped jerk off said 

    screw it call it the SYD trophy 

    Thanks.  Win One for Me!!

    What the Hell is Going ON Out There! Everybody's grabbing Everybody Grab  Grab Grab - Vince Lombardi | Meme Generator

  • @atom said:

    why cause he had some crazy one liners like win it for the gipper and take one for the team or what ever that dim witted tooth gapped jerk off said 

    screw it call it the SYD trophy 

    Thanks.  Win One for Me!!

    What the Hell is Going ON Out There! Everybody's grabbing Everybody Grab  Grab Grab - Vince Lombardi | Meme Generator

    @the-gipper said:

    Thanks.  Win One for Me!!

    What the Hell is Going ON Out There! Everybody's grabbing Everybody Grab  Grab Grab - Vince Lombardi | Meme Generator

    ya and that one 2 thats all he was good for one liners he is the dice clay of comedians 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Thanks.  Win One for Me!!

    What the Hell is Going ON Out There! Everybody's grabbing Everybody Grab  Grab Grab - Vince Lombardi | Meme Generator

    ya and that one 2 thats all he was good for one liners he is the dice clay of comedians 

    @atom said:

    ya and that one 2 thats all he was good for one liners he is the dice clay of comedians 

    He had a career record of 96-34-6 in the regular season. He went 9-1 in the postseason, leading the Green Bay Packers to the NFL Championship/Super Bowl in 1960, 1961, 1962, 1965, 1966 and 1967. They won the last five. 

    But please, feel free to continue. 

  • @atom said:

    ya and that one 2 thats all he was good for one liners he is the dice clay of comedians 

    He had a career record of 96-34-6 in the regular season. He went 9-1 in the postseason, leading the Green Bay Packers to the NFL Championship/Super Bowl in 1960, 1961, 1962, 1965, 1966 and 1967. They won the last five. 

    But please, feel free to continue. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    But please, feel free to continue. 

    Yeah.... but....

    He couldn't beat cancer could he?

    Too soon?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    But please, feel free to continue. 

    Yeah.... but....

    He couldn't beat cancer could he?

    Too soon?

    @tour2ma said:

    Yeah.... but....

    He couldn't beat cancer could he?

    Too soon?

    Wasn't it ironic that Lou Gehrig died from Lou Gehrig's Disease? 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Yeah.... but....

    He couldn't beat cancer could he?

    Too soon?

    Wasn't it ironic that Lou Gehrig died from Lou Gehrig's Disease? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Wasn't it ironic that Lou Gehrig died from Lou Gehrig's Disease? 

    More like "karma" than irony, me thinks...

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  • @atom said:

    ya and that one 2 thats all he was good for one liners he is the dice clay of comedians 

    He had a career record of 96-34-6 in the regular season. He went 9-1 in the postseason, leading the Green Bay Packers to the NFL Championship/Super Bowl in 1960, 1961, 1962, 1965, 1966 and 1967. They won the last five. 

    But please, feel free to continue. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    He had a career record of 96-34-6 in the regular season. He went 9-1 in the postseason, leading the Green Bay Packers to the NFL Championship/Super Bowl in 1960, 1961, 1962, 1965, 1966 and 1967. They won the last five. 

    But please, feel free to continue. 

    close to career Paul Brown was pre super bowl 159-80-5 in 244 games lombardi only coached 144 games also Brown did win 7 league championships  thats one more than that horse faced fuck Brown also won a national title while a coach in collage So wait goddamn thats another more title than lombrdi ever won

    also remember a thing called the west coast offense uummm jeez I wonder who came up with that ?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    He had a career record of 96-34-6 in the regular season. He went 9-1 in the postseason, leading the Green Bay Packers to the NFL Championship/Super Bowl in 1960, 1961, 1962, 1965, 1966 and 1967. They won the last five. 

    But please, feel free to continue. 

    close to career Paul Brown was pre super bowl 159-80-5 in 244 games lombardi only coached 144 games also Brown did win 7 league championships  thats one more than that horse faced fuck Brown also won a national title while a coach in collage So wait goddamn thats another more title than lombrdi ever won

    also remember a thing called the west coast offense uummm jeez I wonder who came up with that ?

    @atom said:

    close to career Paul Brown was pre super bowl 159-80-5 in 244 games lombardi only coached 144 games also Brown did win 7 league championships  thats one more than that horse faced fuck Brown also won a national title while a coach in collage So wait goddamn thats another more title than lombrdi ever won

    also remember a thing called the west coast offense uummm jeez I wonder who came up with that ?

    Lombardi didn't coach as many games because he died of cancer.

    And with that, this fucking waste of time is officially done. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    He had a career record of 96-34-6 in the regular season. He went 9-1 in the postseason, leading the Green Bay Packers to the NFL Championship/Super Bowl in 1960, 1961, 1962, 1965, 1966 and 1967. They won the last five. 

    But please, feel free to continue. 

    close to career Paul Brown was pre super bowl 159-80-5 in 244 games lombardi only coached 144 games also Brown did win 7 league championships  thats one more than that horse faced fuck Brown also won a national title while a coach in collage So wait goddamn thats another more title than lombrdi ever won

    also remember a thing called the west coast offense uummm jeez I wonder who came up with that ?

    @atom said:

    also remember a thing called the west coast offense uummm jeez I wonder who came up with that ?

    That would be Bill Walsh.

  • @atom said:

    also remember a thing called the west coast offense uummm jeez I wonder who came up with that ?

    That would be Bill Walsh.

    @tour2ma said:

    That would be Bill Walsh.

    No.  It was Paul Brown.   Walsh was an asst. coach for  PB with the Bengals...and most of Walsh's concepts were the same that  PB ran with Otto Graham.  And also...the name West Coast Offense was actually a creation of Bernie Kosar. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    That would be Bill Walsh.

    No.  It was Paul Brown.   Walsh was an asst. coach for  PB with the Bengals...and most of Walsh's concepts were the same that  PB ran with Otto Graham.  And also...the name West Coast Offense was actually a creation of Bernie Kosar. 

    @the-gipper said:

    No.  It was Paul Brown.   Walsh was an asst. coach for  PB with the Bengals...and most of Walsh's concepts were the same that  PB ran with Otto Graham.  And also...the name West Coast Offense was actually a creation of Bernie Kosar. 

    It was Bill Walsh, while under Paul Brown. 

    The Bengals had an accurate, but weak-armed QB, and Brown gave his OC Bill Walsh the assignment of creating a passing attack that featured short passes. This was the beginning of what became the West Coast offense, shorter passes that focused on hitting players in stride to allow them to gain yards after the catch. 

    I didn't know about Bernie's involvement in the name, but apparently this is true, but mistakenly. Bernie mentioned "the West Coast Offense" in comparison to the Cowboys offense (when he was there) and the reporter mistakenly thought he was referring to the Walsh/49ers offense. Bernie was actually talking about the Air Coryell offense. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    No.  It was Paul Brown.   Walsh was an asst. coach for  PB with the Bengals...and most of Walsh's concepts were the same that  PB ran with Otto Graham.  And also...the name West Coast Offense was actually a creation of Bernie Kosar. 

    It was Bill Walsh, while under Paul Brown. 

    The Bengals had an accurate, but weak-armed QB, and Brown gave his OC Bill Walsh the assignment of creating a passing attack that featured short passes. This was the beginning of what became the West Coast offense, shorter passes that focused on hitting players in stride to allow them to gain yards after the catch. 

    I didn't know about Bernie's involvement in the name, but apparently this is true, but mistakenly. Bernie mentioned "the West Coast Offense" in comparison to the Cowboys offense (when he was there) and the reporter mistakenly thought he was referring to the Walsh/49ers offense. Bernie was actually talking about the Air Coryell offense. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    1. It was Bill Walsh, while under Paul Brown. 
    2. The Bengals had an accurate, but weak-armed QB, and Brown gave his OC Bill Walsh the assignment of creating a passing attack that featured short passes. This was the beginning of what became the West Coast offense, shorter passes that focused on hitting players in stride to allow them to gain yards after the catch. 
    3. I didn't know about Bernie's involvement in the name, but apparently this is true, but mistakenly. Bernie mentioned "the West Coast Offense" in comparison to the Cowboys offense (when he was there) and the reporter mistakenly thought he was referring to the Walsh/49ers offense. Bernie was actually talking about the Air Coryell offense. 

    1. Yes... and as we know that does not make it Paul Browns'.

    2. Actually the Bengals had a promising, rookie QB, Greg Cook, who suffered a torn rotator cuff early in the season. That necessitated scrapping the vertical offense installed in TC and replacement it with a short, quick passing game. Walsh was Paul's QB Coach and called the plays. At the time it was generally referred to as "the nickle and dime offense."

    However, Walsh did not originate the concept at that time. That happened over 20 years prior in Bill's Master's Thesis at San Jose St., Flank Formation Football - Stress: Defense . Bill used a fledgling version of the concept in his first job to turn a doormat H.S. team into a winner. The concept developed through Bill's subsequent stops on college staffs and his first pro job in Oakland. He left Oakland to join Brown in Cinci.

    Bill expected to become the Cinci HC when Paul retired. He left after Paul passed over him and chose Bill Johnson. Pretty safe to say Paul fucked up.

    3. Walsh ended up joining Don Coryell in SD where the Offense was further developed. While some do credit Bernie and a miscommunication for the name, almost a decade earlier Bill Parcels used it after his NYG team destroy Walsh's 49ers in a playoff game.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1063824-a-brief-history-of-the-west-coast-offense-part-1-planting-the-seed

    https://www.thephinsider.com/2014/2/13/5406774/football-101-what-is-a-west-coast-offense

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Coast_offense#History_and_use_of_the_term

  • @the-gipper said:

    No.  It was Paul Brown.   Walsh was an asst. coach for  PB with the Bengals...and most of Walsh's concepts were the same that  PB ran with Otto Graham.  And also...the name West Coast Offense was actually a creation of Bernie Kosar. 

    It was Bill Walsh, while under Paul Brown. 

    The Bengals had an accurate, but weak-armed QB, and Brown gave his OC Bill Walsh the assignment of creating a passing attack that featured short passes. This was the beginning of what became the West Coast offense, shorter passes that focused on hitting players in stride to allow them to gain yards after the catch. 

    I didn't know about Bernie's involvement in the name, but apparently this is true, but mistakenly. Bernie mentioned "the West Coast Offense" in comparison to the Cowboys offense (when he was there) and the reporter mistakenly thought he was referring to the Walsh/49ers offense. Bernie was actually talking about the Air Coryell offense. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    It was Bill Walsh, while under Paul Brown. 

    The Bengals had an accurate, but weak-armed QB, and Brown gave his OC Bill Walsh the assignment of creating a passing attack that featured short passes. This was the beginning of what became the West Coast offense, shorter passes that focused on hitting players in stride to allow them to gain yards after the catch. 

    I didn't know about Bernie's involvement in the name, but apparently this is true, but mistakenly. Bernie mentioned "the West Coast Offense" in comparison to the Cowboys offense (when he was there) and the reporter mistakenly thought he was referring to the Walsh/49ers offense. Bernie was actually talking about the Air Coryell offense. 

    Bill Walsh  adapted and updated Paul Brown's basic concepts that he ran with Otto Graham.    He did not just create that offense out of the firmament.   He also took some of Sid Gillman's concepts from his San Diego offense and applied it.  Not saying he wasn't creative with it...just that the basic concepts had been around. 

    Walsh spent eight seasons with the Bengals as the offensive coordinator.

    In that time, he incorporated many of Paul Brown's philosophies into his own tool kit.