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  • @the-gipper said:

    Maybe.   My son ran cross country and did some track.  My daughter played some softball,  but was primarily a cheerleader (HS,  and 4 years in college)      How were you at those?

    Really good at one.... not so much at the other 2. 

    @d-bone said:

    Really good at one..

    Cheerleading?

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well...that is one way to look at it.   Another is to say that....if all those pieces of pie that we hadn't been handed out earlier in the game we would have perhaps still had full pan full of pie.....and then the shoe would have been on the foot of the other team to try to catch us, rather than vice versa.  Maybe they do it....but they didn't have to try. 

    For what it's worth, I'm not disagreeing that it was a big missed call, I'm just saying that the Browns had a chance to win the game after it but simply failed. As you can probably tell, objects in my rear view mirror are never closer than they appear. 

    Those that were in the Tavern with me know that I really thought the Browns were going to go on a 5+ minute game winning drive that was going to be what legends are made of. I'm sure Baker and everyone else thought the same thing too.  ?

    @d-bone said:

    Those that were in the Tavern with me know that I really thought the Browns were going to go on a 5+ minute game winning drive that was going to be what legends are made of. I'm sure Baker and everyone else thought the same thing too. 

    Stopped paying attention when you failed to turn Dutch vegan...

  • @gunz41 said:

    Yes they are, but this isn't college??? I have no clue why you felt the need to tell me that, when you know that is something I would know.

    Who says I was telling YOU that.  Just because it was your post doesn't mean that a statement I make may not be for general consumption.  I was simply pointing out to everyone that that is the kind of play that is reviewable at the college level.  There may be some people on here that don't actually know that.  In fact, to be fair....I thought that a helmet to helmet hit....was reviewable in the NFL.  But apparently not.  Nevertheless, your post was simply the conduit through which that point was to be made. 

    And sure, if you want to just look at one play (then really it would be 6, especially when considering the amount of hate Parkey has gotten on here). And I won't even go full dissection into you to answer. All I will say is that having a 16 point lead vs. an at best 9 point lead is huge in a coaches mind/play calling. And if you want to point out 1 play that really hurt the Browns, couldn't the Chiefs do the same with Mahomes. The Browns almost assuredly don't hold Chiefs to 22 with PM. But that is besides the point.

    Yes, that is why I said  if that penalty had been called and the game had become  closer that it may have changed the Chiefs strategy later on. 

    I will say it again, a VERY BAD missed call. They happen. The officials didn't miss it on purpose. And since this is the ONLY area of field that you can lose the ball like that, regardless of the hit, need to be a bit safer there. The exact same thing can and has happened with legal hits. 

    Sure....its all speculative. IF that call had been made the Browns may have scored another 7 points...which, speculatively could have won us the game.   And maybe Higgins should have been safer there....but what I did see him do there was to make an all out effort to score.  Had he played it safer, he likely does not fumble, but he also doesn't try to score...which was his goal.  Maybe a bad decision on his part, as the fumble didn't keep the ball alive.  Being short of the goal....on the 2 or 1 could have given us a TD...but like I said...I appreciated the effort, even if you can second guess it. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Yeah, I think I (and everyone else here) will take my years and years of experience and knowledge in the game as opposed to a judge who has admitted on this site never played a down???

    Don't want to take my opinion, lets ask... @tour2ma, @hoorta, @dutch-oven, @nero, @tiamat63???

  • @d-bone said:

    Those that were in the Tavern with me know that I really thought the Browns were going to go on a 5+ minute game winning drive that was going to be what legends are made of. I'm sure Baker and everyone else thought the same thing too. 

    Stopped paying attention when you failed to turn Dutch vegan...

    @tour2ma said:

    Stopped paying attention when you failed to turn Dutch vegan...

    LOL!! Lord knows I tried with every bit of JuJu that I possessed.  

  • @neo said:

    had the bad luck of losing Wills

    Not just Wills, but Lamm (who was playing well) as well...

    So once again "Hello-my-name-is: Blake Hance" stepped in a did a decent job just as he did last week... and on the opposite side at a different position to boot.

    @tour2ma said:

    Not just Wills, but Lamm (who was playing well) as well...

    So once again "Hello-my-name-is: Blake Hance" stepped in a did a decent job just as he did last week... and on the opposite side at a different position to boot.

    Blake Hance deserves a full-time roster spot after what he did these last two games. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Stopped paying attention when you failed to turn Dutch vegan...

    LOL!! Lord knows I tried with every bit of JuJu that I possessed.  

    @d-bone said:

    LOL!! Lord knows I tried with every bit of JuJu that I possessed.  

    Based on his description of his bowel movement (and thanks a whole bunch for that, Dutch) you might have saved his life...

  • @d-bone said:

    (That'll be $100 for the coaching lesson) 

    Good luck getting that from Gipper...

    .And it was DR. EMMETT BROWN'S time machine in Back to the Future... Judge Smails .

    @tour2ma said:

    Good luck getting that from Gipper...

    YOUR ignorance of what constitutes a bet is your problem, not mine. 

    .And it was DR. EMMETT BROWN'S time machine in Back to the Future... Judge Smails .

  • @the-gipper said:

    Yeah, I think I (and everyone else here) will take my years and years of experience and knowledge in the game as opposed to a judge who has admitted on this site never played a down???

    Don't want to take my opinion, lets ask... @tour2ma, @hoorta, @dutch-oven, @nero, @tiamat63???

    @gunz41 said:

    Yeah, I think I (and everyone else here) will take my years and years of experience and knowledge in the game as opposed to a judge who has admitted on this site never played a down???

    Don't want to take my opinion, lets ask... @tour2ma, @hoorta, @dutch-oven, @nero, @tiamat63???

    Whatever the guy confronting Gipper says. 

    Gipper you should learn to shut up sometimes. You get to be obnoxious at times and it is only because you'll go through the longest rabbit holes ever. 

  • WELCOME TO THE PARTY, PAL(S)...

  • @browns52 said:

    woods sucks.....steph made some bad time mgmt calls though....thats ok....he will be good.....i have to say how about that call by andy reid....wow....depressing but i never expected it...never.....but woods sucks.....we need some pass rushers and lb's but i don't want him coaching them.....half the time the d looked out of place and confused....no pressure....none at all.....could have won this one.....the play that keeps coming back to me, is the third and 14 and we let a fucking backup run for 13 and half to set up that call on 4th down......where the fuck were the lbs.....oh well....it was a great season never the less...

    He plays too much Tampa 2... I HATE the Tampa 2 defense..... You have to have an extraordinary secondary to even run it half assed...

    @nickers said:

    He plays too much Tampa 2... I HATE the Tampa 2 defense..... You have to have an extraordinary secondary to even run it half assed...

    watched that henne scramble play again and it appears what really made that play sucessful was that our de filling in for vernon went for the sack and got blown out by the chefs lt...it wasn't even close....he should have played containment....counting on someone to come up and stop henne way shorter of the 1st down....instead he got creamed by the lt opening up the whole left side for the scramble.....ugly....simply ugly d....

  • .... and can we talk about Hooper's catch? Man, I've been hard on granite hands lately but damn, what a huge catch that was. 

  • N Neo

    I just want to put things into perspective, with the game close they lost probably the best player in all of football and left the door wide open for the Browns. They didn't get it done. 

    This is just the start of things to come. I think it is abundantly clear the impact of not having a weapon like Beckham had the bad luck of losing Wills, but I think if we had another threat on offense it would have been easier to run the ball. 

    @neo said:

    I just want to put things into perspective, with the game close they lost probably the best player in all of football and left the door wide open for the Browns. They didn't get it done. 

    This is just the start of things to come. I think it is abundantly clear the impact of not having a weapon like Beckham had the bad luck of losing Wills, but I think if we had another threat on offense it would have been easier to run the ball. 

    i give alot of credit to the chefs d.....honey badger was hugh....he was mostly responsible for stuffing the run.....defense wins games, not offense....they made the plays on d and we did not...

  • @neo said:

    I just want to put things into perspective, with the game close they lost probably the best player in all of football and left the door wide open for the Browns. They didn't get it done. 

    This is just the start of things to come. I think it is abundantly clear the impact of not having a weapon like Beckham had the bad luck of losing Wills, but I think if we had another threat on offense it would have been easier to run the ball. 

    i give alot of credit to the chefs d.....honey badger was hugh....he was mostly responsible for stuffing the run.....defense wins games, not offense....they made the plays on d and we did not...

    @browns52 said:

    i give alot of credit to the chefs d.....honey badger was hugh....he was mostly responsible for stuffing the run.....defense wins games, not offense....they made the plays on d and we did not...

    just saying, beckham was a weapon when he was with the giants......overall, he has not done much with the browns.....

  • We ran the ball fine.

    The Chubb Hunt tandem: 

    20 carries 5.3 yards per carry.  

     

  • .... and can we talk about Hooper's catch? Man, I've been hard on granite hands lately but damn, what a huge catch that was. 

    @d-bone said:

    .... and can we talk about Hooper's catch? Man, I've been hard on granite hands lately but damn, what a huge catch that was. 

    The throw too. Talk about game of inches. He had to fully extend  to have a chance with his DB jacket on. I think the ball grazed the defender’s hand or came really really close. 
     

    Some props to Njoku too who seemed to play the part of TE 1 today.

  • @d-bone said:

    .... and can we talk about Hooper's catch? Man, I've been hard on granite hands lately but damn, what a huge catch that was. 

    The throw too. Talk about game of inches. He had to fully extend  to have a chance with his DB jacket on. I think the ball grazed the defender’s hand or came really really close. 
     

    Some props to Njoku too who seemed to play the part of TE 1 today.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    The throw too. Talk about game of inches. He had to fully extend  to have a chance with his DB jacket on. I think the ball grazed the defender’s hand or came really really close. 
     

    Some props to Njoku too who seemed to play the part of TE 1 today.

    For sure! I have never been so happy to be so wrong regarding Baker. He's our dude for the next 7-10 years and he is good enough to win a Super Bowl if we can put a defense around him. 

  • @browns52 said:

    i give alot of credit to the chefs d.....honey badger was hugh....he was mostly responsible for stuffing the run.....defense wins games, not offense....they made the plays on d and we did not...

    just saying, beckham was a weapon when he was with the giants......overall, he has not done much with the browns.....

    @browns52 said:

    just saying, beckham was a weapon when he was with the giants......overall, he has not done much with the browns.....

    I have a strong feeling OBJ won't be here next season..... He's a non factor on this team... And.. Never will be...

  • So I'm still awake while you east coasters are sleeping, and I am sitting here feeling weirdly and comfortably satisfied after the Browns season is officially over.

    It's been damn near half of my 53 years of life since I have felt this way after the Browns final game of the season..... Usually it's just relief that it's finally over and uncontrolled hope that it will someday mercifully get better "if they can just get the right people in place."

    Tonight, it's a peaceful, easy feeling (name that artist) and one that will allow me to go to bed in a few minutes and fall asleep with a little smile on my face, as I know I have a real chance to see my Browns in the Super Bowl coming up for the next few years.... and that is exciting as hell.

    Thank you Browns for a great season, and thank you for restoring more than just hope - thank you for restoring my expectations. 

    Good night, and good luck. 

  • @d-bone said:

    Those that were in the Tavern with me know that I really thought the Browns were going to go on a 5+ minute game winning drive that was going to be what legends are made of. I'm sure Baker and everyone else thought the same thing too. 

    Stopped paying attention when you failed to turn Dutch vegan...

    @tour2ma said:

    Stopped paying attention when you failed to turn Dutch vegan...

    Oh, is that what they're calling it now? 

    @gunz41

    What is this you've tagged me in? I'm in no mental condition to go back multiple pages and read at this time.

  • @sdbacker80

    I mentioned Stef calling the game in reverse.  Looking at ESPN's play call chart and that appears to be just what happened.  Only issue is the offense left a reasonable deal of points on the field today.

    Long off-season.  So plenty of time to go over draft prospects and Browns film.  That work begins Monday morning.