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  • @gumby73 said:

    Pick #4 was traded to the Bills to select WR Sammy Watkins.

    Sammie was my guy at #4 that year until Khalil Mack miraculously fell into our lap at #4 and WE STILL TRADED THE FUCKING PICK!!!

    Thanks, Ray "Fuckity Fuck Fuck Fuck" Farmer...

    But I'm over it now...

    @tour2ma said:

    Sammie was my guy at #4 that year until Khalil Mack miraculously fell into our lap at #4 and WE STILL TRADED THE FUCKING PICK!!!

    Thanks, Ray "Fuckity Fuck Fuck Fuck" Farmer...

    But I'm over it now...

    No you ain't.   LOL!?

  • @gumby73 said:

    Gumby draft trivia.... It's 2014...

    The Browns traded back up *from what draft slot number to pick a QB* from Texas A&M at pick #22... Can ya name the *prior pick slot & team we traded up with*?   

    The Answers are.. What is pick *#26 (the pick the Browns will start at in the 2021 draft) And whom are the *Philadelphia Eagles

    In the 2014 NFL draft, your Cleveland Browns owned 2 first round picks.. Pick #4 & Pick #26.. Pick #26 was added from the Colts in a trade for RB Trent Richardson..  

    Pick #4 was traded to the Bills to select WR Sammy Watkins.. The Browns slid down to Pick #9, to than trade up one slot to pick at #8 to draft CB Justin Gilbert from the Vikings..

    Pick #26 from Indy,was used in a trade up with the Eagles to pick #22 to draft QB Johnny ? to Cleveland..

    @gumby73 said:

    The Answers are.. What is pick *#26 (the pick the Browns will start at in the 2021 draft) And whom are the *Philadelphia Eagles

    In the 2014 NFL draft, your Cleveland Browns owned 2 first round picks.. Pick #4 & Pick #26.. Pick #26 was added from the Colts in a trade for RB Trent Richardson..  

    Pick #4 was traded to the Bills to select WR Sammy Watkins.. The Browns slid down to Pick #9, to than trade up one slot to pick at #8 to draft CB Justin Gilbert from the Vikings..

    Pick #26 from Indy,was used in a trade up with the Eagles to pick #22 to draft QB Johnny ? to Cleveland..

    Imagine if some proper selections had been made with those picks.  Those....hopefully good....players would be in the prime of their careers for the Browns right now.   Khalil Mack or Mike Evans were available at #4

    Bradley Roby and Demarcus Lawrence at #26

  • It's easy to look back.  Looking forward is the only thing that matters.

    I think we will move up this year if we have a targeted player in sight.  We have two 3rd rounders and two 4th rounders.


    Two 3rd rounders could get us another 2nd round pick.  Two 4th rounders could get us back in to the 3rd round.  I'd be thrilled with a 1st round pick, two 2nd rounders and a 3rd.  No 4th rounders then pick up in the 5th round.  Maybe just do one of those trades, then trade down a bit to pick up some extra for next year.  I like having extra draft picks.

    This year is a bit different.  Now is the time to trade up a bit and get impact players to add to whatever we get in free agency.

  • Like this idea ^^ looks like a solid 2.5 round draft.... 

    From today... Andrew Berry's season ending press conference  https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/6-things-we-learned-from-andrew-berry-s-end-of-season-press-conference

    Estimated team cap rollovers

    Image   The NFL will audit these amounts after calculating incentives and cap credits from this year. The final amounts will be added to each team's cap for 2021.

  • We need to target linebackers and safeties, and add more depth to the D-line and O-line.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Best defensive player on the board. Do not care what position, because upgrades are needed across the board. 

    Totally agree, draft should be all defense....outside maybe a backup o lineman.

    @runyon27 said:

    Totally agree, draft should be all defense....outside maybe a backup o lineman.

    And maybe a WR. Mid-round. 

  • @runyon27 said:

    Yeah I think I am done with Ogunjobi, I was disappointed in his play this year and I think upgrading the interior of the D line needs to be done.

    Can you think of a guy we may consider to do that? 

    @the-gipper said:

    Can you think of a guy we may consider to do that? 

    Maybe Billings who opted out this past season would be an in house option. Hopefully Elliot will take a big step forward, didn't see much from him this year either. Maybe Aluaalua from Pittsburgh.

  • The Chiefs game was the defining moment of "do we miss OBJ". The Chiefs absolutely defended virtually EVERY play well in the air. They did the exact same thing in 2019 against Stefanski in Minnesota, and it shouldn't have been a surprise to see our attack struggle because we had nobody who could beat man coverage. Most of the time the Chiefs didn't deep cover half of the damn field. Baker made some unbelievable throws against the Chiefs, but we simply didn't get enough possessions when losing turnover battle. We need speed on offense and defense, as well as DTs. 

    We're close, boys. 

  • It's easy to look back.  Looking forward is the only thing that matters.

    I think we will move up this year if we have a targeted player in sight.  We have two 3rd rounders and two 4th rounders.


    Two 3rd rounders could get us another 2nd round pick.  Two 4th rounders could get us back in to the 3rd round.  I'd be thrilled with a 1st round pick, two 2nd rounders and a 3rd.  No 4th rounders then pick up in the 5th round.  Maybe just do one of those trades, then trade down a bit to pick up some extra for next year.  I like having extra draft picks.

    This year is a bit different.  Now is the time to trade up a bit and get impact players to add to whatever we get in free agency.

    @ballpeen said:

    It's easy to look back.

    Actually it's easier to look forward...

    ... look back and you trip over shit.

  • It's easy to look back.  Looking forward is the only thing that matters.

    I think we will move up this year if we have a targeted player in sight.  We have two 3rd rounders and two 4th rounders.


    Two 3rd rounders could get us another 2nd round pick.  Two 4th rounders could get us back in to the 3rd round.  I'd be thrilled with a 1st round pick, two 2nd rounders and a 3rd.  No 4th rounders then pick up in the 5th round.  Maybe just do one of those trades, then trade down a bit to pick up some extra for next year.  I like having extra draft picks.

    This year is a bit different.  Now is the time to trade up a bit and get impact players to add to whatever we get in free agency.

    @ballpeen said:

    Two 3rd rounders could get us another 2nd round pick.  Two 4th rounders could get us back in to the 3rd round.  I'd be thrilled with a 1st round pick, two 2nd rounders and a 3rd.  No 4th rounders then pick up in the 5th round. 

    Close... https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart-Rich-Hill.asp?RequestTeam=cle

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