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Biden kills 70,000+ U.S. jobs with the stroke of a pen

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  • @calfoxwc said:

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    Looks like woodpeckers work!

  • @westside-steve said:

    I was under the impression you thought this wasn't a good idea. It would be nice if you could discuss something without the TDS. I understand a lot of people said that they voted for Biden because of their distaste for trouble. I don't think that's a good idea but I can accept that reasoning. That doesn't mean you have to pretend to support everything Biden does now. 

    And aside from Justice pouting a talking point I think you can differentiate between legal and illegal immigration. Or at least one would hope oh, regardless of the wall.

    WSS

    Steve- it would be nice if the right wing of this forum would just STOP with the TDS already. Lame, lame, lame. There's probably at least a hundred or so valid reasons to hate Trump. I can start with Coal Miner's Son Trump- arguably the most anti-environmental president since the EPA came into existence. I stated some damn facts, about the aggrandizing BS regarding the Wall, replacing Obamacare with something better, and his non-existent infrastructure plan. Go ahead- so where am I factually wrong on any of it? He's not God, though some around here think his shit don't stink.  

    1) Numerous posts have shown (and proven) Trump is the person who's deranged. Not those of us who dare to point it out. Tex showed based on a test- Trump is a sociopath. That his narcissism is out of control isn't debatable. Mr. Pathological Liar racked up 30,500 lies and change before he got exiled to Mar a Lago.  Swell guy. Couldn't admit Joe beat him fair and square. Called his minions to DC- and then you know what happened. Not his fault? My ass it isn't.  

    2) The difference between legal and illegal immigration is Trump and the xenophobes trying to shut the barn door after the horses got out. Read where there's at least 11 million illegals living in the country, some old enough to have kids that are native born right here in the USA. Sorry, kicking them out isn't happening. The other point is back in the 1850s ramping that up to 2020 population- you'd have 42 million immigrants here.  Irish decent Steve? I had a talk with a Ranger down at the Towpath Visitor Center. That canal was dug by hand by Irish immigrants who got paid around a dime a day and a shot of whisky after work. They died on an average of one per mile. 

    3) There's TONS of BDS (Biden Derangement Syndrome) HDS (Harris Derangement syndrome) Ah gee- you don't like Kameltoe? I don't like Cheetos- fair enough?  DDS (Democrat Derangement Syndrome) going on here. One guy- you know who- is still living 4 years in the past bashing Obama. 

    Finally- though I do like most, if not all of Joe's executive orders undoing the worst of Trump's mistakes, I'm not going to back him 100%.  It's amazingly hypocritical of Republicans turning into deficit hawks on a dime, when Trump's tax cuts for his rich buddies ballooned the deficit- even with the economy running full tilt with record low unemployment.  It's magical thinking to believe cutting taxes is the way to disappearing deficits and prosperity. If you want better programs- and better services- that money doesn't appear out of thin air, it has to be paid for somehow. Regarding local infrastructure... The I-75 Brent Spence Bridge over the Ohio River into Kentucky is at the end of it's useful service life. It's going to cost somewhere around a BILLION dollars at last count to replace it. But let's bitch about raising the federal gas tax by a fucking nickel or dime a gallon instead. 

    @hoorta said:

    Steve- it would be nice if the right wing of this forum would just STOP with the TDS already. Lame, lame, lame. There's probably at least a hundred or so valid reasons to hate Trump. I can start with Coal Miner's Son Trump- arguably the most anti-environmental president since the EPA came into existence. I stated some damn facts, about the aggrandizing BS regarding the Wall, replacing Obamacare with something better, and his non-existent infrastructure plan. Go ahead- so where am I factually wrong on any of it? He's not God, though some around here think his shit don't stink.  

    1) Numerous posts have shown (and proven) Trump is the person who's deranged. Not those of us who dare to point it out. Tex showed based on a test- Trump is a sociopath. That his narcissism is out of control isn't debatable. Mr. Pathological Liar racked up 30,500 lies and change before he got exiled to Mar a Lago.  Swell guy. Couldn't admit Joe beat him fair and square. Called his minions to DC- and then you know what happened. Not his fault? My ass it isn't.  

    2) The difference between legal and illegal immigration is Trump and the xenophobes trying to shut the barn door after the horses got out. Read where there's at least 11 million illegals living in the country, some old enough to have kids that are native born right here in the USA. Sorry, kicking them out isn't happening. The other point is back in the 1850s ramping that up to 2020 population- you'd have 42 million immigrants here.  Irish decent Steve? I had a talk with a Ranger down at the Towpath Visitor Center. That canal was dug by hand by Irish immigrants who got paid around a dime a day and a shot of whisky after work. They died on an average of one per mile. 

    3) There's TONS of BDS (Biden Derangement Syndrome) HDS (Harris Derangement syndrome) Ah gee- you don't like Kameltoe? I don't like Cheetos- fair enough?  DDS (Democrat Derangement Syndrome) going on here. One guy- you know who- is still living 4 years in the past bashing Obama. 

    Finally- though I do like most, if not all of Joe's executive orders undoing the worst of Trump's mistakes, I'm not going to back him 100%.  It's amazingly hypocritical of Republicans turning into deficit hawks on a dime, when Trump's tax cuts for his rich buddies ballooned the deficit- even with the economy running full tilt with record low unemployment.  It's magical thinking to believe cutting taxes is the way to disappearing deficits and prosperity. If you want better programs- and better services- that money doesn't appear out of thin air, it has to be paid for somehow. Regarding local infrastructure... The I-75 Brent Spence Bridge over the Ohio River into Kentucky is at the end of it's useful service life. It's going to cost somewhere around a BILLION dollars at last count to replace it. But let's bitch about raising the federal gas tax by a fucking nickel or dime a gallon instead. 

    Canadian pol rips Biden admin for canceling Keystone Pipeline

    https://news.yahoo.com/canadian-pol-rips-biden-admin-212600107.html

    Alberta Premier Jason Kenney tells 'The Story' both countries will be hurt by Biden action

  • I sometimes wonder how land conservation became something championed by “liberals.” I mean, conservation and conservative literally have the same root word. 

    Our President most known for conservation was Teddy Roosevelt, a republican and a big hunter. He saw the urban sprawl and saw the value in preserving nature. A lot of hunters think this way. Can’t go quail hunting in a subdivision. 

  • I sometimes wonder how land conservation became something championed by “liberals.” I mean, conservation and conservative literally have the same root word. 

    Our President most known for conservation was Teddy Roosevelt, a republican and a big hunter. He saw the urban sprawl and saw the value in preserving nature. A lot of hunters think this way. Can’t go quail hunting in a subdivision. 

    @ibleedbrown said:

    I sometimes wonder how land conservation became something championed by “liberals.” I mean, conservation and conservative literally have the same root word. 

    Our President most known for conservation was Teddy Roosevelt, a republican and a big hunter. He saw the urban sprawl and saw the value in preserving nature. A lot of hunters think this way. Can’t go quail hunting in a subdivision. 

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  • teamsters... jimmy hoffa groupies.

  • N Neo

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    @neo said:

    Neo- I said it way back in a previous post. Canadian tar sand and shale oil is acidic abrasive crap that's tough to refine. Looks like that 70,000 jobs lost is hyperbole too- as I'd expect.  

    Of course Canada is upset- they're now sitting on some junk oil that suddenly doesn't have a market.  🙂   If it's such great stuff- refine it yourselves Canada, and sell it as gasoline or diesel.  🙂  

    @calfoxwc said:

    teamsters... jimmy hoffa groupies.

    LOL- you want to talk groupies? Like QAnon and another dozen or so brainwashed Trump groupies?

  • @neo said:

    Neo- I said it way back in a previous post. Canadian tar sand and shale oil is acidic abrasive crap that's tough to refine. Looks like that 70,000 jobs lost is hyperbole too- as I'd expect.  

    Of course Canada is upset- they're now sitting on some junk oil that suddenly doesn't have a market.  🙂   If it's such great stuff- refine it yourselves Canada, and sell it as gasoline or diesel.  🙂  

    @calfoxwc said:

    teamsters... jimmy hoffa groupies.

    LOL- you want to talk groupies? Like QAnon and another dozen or so brainwashed Trump groupies?

    @hoorta said:

    LOL- you want to talk groupies?

    Like Antifa and another dozen or so brainwashed Biden groupies?

  • @neo said:

    Neo- I said it way back in a previous post. Canadian tar sand and shale oil is acidic abrasive crap that's tough to refine. Looks like that 70,000 jobs lost is hyperbole too- as I'd expect.  

    Of course Canada is upset- they're now sitting on some junk oil that suddenly doesn't have a market.  🙂   If it's such great stuff- refine it yourselves Canada, and sell it as gasoline or diesel.  🙂  

    @calfoxwc said:

    teamsters... jimmy hoffa groupies.

    LOL- you want to talk groupies? Like QAnon and another dozen or so brainwashed Trump groupies?

    @hoorta said:

    Neo- I said it way back in a previous post. Canadian tar sand and shale oil is acidic abrasive crap that's tough to refine. Looks like that 70,000 jobs lost is hyperbole too- as I'd expect.  

    Of course Canada is upset- they're now sitting on some junk oil that suddenly doesn't have a market.  🙂   If it's such great stuff- refine it yourselves Canada, and sell it as gasoline or diesel.  🙂  

    LOL- you want to talk groupies? Like QAnon and another dozen or so brainwashed Trump groupies?

    You do realize the oil is still shipped here only by truck and railway the pipeline would have been safer and cheaper...

  • @neo said:

    Neo- I said it way back in a previous post. Canadian tar sand and shale oil is acidic abrasive crap that's tough to refine. Looks like that 70,000 jobs lost is hyperbole too- as I'd expect.  

    Of course Canada is upset- they're now sitting on some junk oil that suddenly doesn't have a market.  🙂   If it's such great stuff- refine it yourselves Canada, and sell it as gasoline or diesel.  🙂  

    @calfoxwc said:

    teamsters... jimmy hoffa groupies.

    LOL- you want to talk groupies? Like QAnon and another dozen or so brainwashed Trump groupies?

    @hoorta said:

    Neo- I said it way back in a previous post. Canadian tar sand and shale oil is acidic abrasive crap that's tough to refine. Looks like that 70,000 jobs lost is hyperbole too- as I'd expect.  

    Of course Canada is upset- they're now sitting on some junk oil that suddenly doesn't have a market.  🙂   If it's such great stuff- refine it yourselves Canada, and sell it as gasoline or diesel.  🙂  

    LOL- you want to talk groupies? Like QAnon and another dozen or so brainwashed Trump groupies?

    trust-is-earned-respect-is-given-and-loy

  • @hoorta said:

    LOL- you want to talk groupies?

    Like Antifa and another dozen or so brainwashed Biden groupies?

    @vambo said:

    Like Antifa and another dozen or so brainwashed Biden groupies?

    Antifa? Trump tried to say they're left wing extremists- but if you do 5 minutes of unbiased research- they're hardly left wing pro-Biden. 

  • @vambo said:

    Like Antifa and another dozen or so brainwashed Biden groupies?

    Antifa? Trump tried to say they're left wing extremists- but if you do 5 minutes of unbiased research- they're hardly left wing pro-Biden. 

    @hoorta said:

    Antifa? Trump tried to say they're left wing extremists- but if you do 5 minutes of unbiased research- they're hardly left wing pro-Biden. 

    Why did Biden and Harris bail them out of jail?

  • oh well I am gonna buy another rental property while the price is good  

    invest it u can

  • @hoorta said:

    LOL- you want to talk groupies?

    Like Antifa and another dozen or so brainwashed Biden groupies?

    @vambo said:

    Like Antifa and another dozen or so brainwashed Biden groupies?

    they hate biden I live in the middle of this shit they are fucking up a once cool town 

    didnt you see the riots in tacoma last night ? it was the same fuckers who have been fucking up portland

  • @hoorta said:

    Neo- I said it way back in a previous post. Canadian tar sand and shale oil is acidic abrasive crap that's tough to refine. Looks like that 70,000 jobs lost is hyperbole too- as I'd expect.  

    Of course Canada is upset- they're now sitting on some junk oil that suddenly doesn't have a market.  🙂   If it's such great stuff- refine it yourselves Canada, and sell it as gasoline or diesel.  🙂  

    LOL- you want to talk groupies? Like QAnon and another dozen or so brainwashed Trump groupies?

    trust-is-earned-respect-is-given-and-loy

    @calfoxwc said:

    trust-is-earned-respect-is-given-and-loy

    I don't trust anything Trump says as far as I could throw his fat ass, (it's going away X26 times, for starters). He deserves as much respect as a monkey in a zoo. (Would you like a link to The thousands of his tweets where he disrespected anyone who wouldn't kiss his ass?)    Those still loyal to him have been brainwashed. 

  • @vambo said:

    Like Antifa and another dozen or so brainwashed Biden groupies?

    they hate biden I live in the middle of this shit they are fucking up a once cool town 

    didnt you see the riots in tacoma last night ? it was the same fuckers who have been fucking up portland

    @atom said:

    they hate biden I live in the middle of this shit they are fucking up a once cool town 

    didnt you see the riots in tacoma last night ? it was the same fuckers who have been fucking up portland

    Why did Biden and Harris bail them out of jail?

  • yep, stupid TDS rages on.

  • @vambo said:

    That was after George Floyd’s death in Minnesota and the subsequent riots there. It was clearly a heavy time with an outpouring of support from a lot of people wanting to help but likely not sure how. Not saying right or wrong, just a different set of circumstances altogether.

    Around that time we heard a lot about BLM and Antifa, and in some media outlets they seemed to be depicted as similar to each other. 

    I think it’s very clear that’s not the case now, but l’m not sure we knew that at the time. Antifa groups are pretty out there. Hell, l’m still trying to figure out what they’re fighting for and how they think doing what they’re doing will accomplish it. To accomplish anything you need some degree of public support, and l don’t even think they’re trying for that.

  • @vambo said:

    That was after George Floyd’s death in Minnesota and the subsequent riots there. It was clearly a heavy time with an outpouring of support from a lot of people wanting to help but likely not sure how. Not saying right or wrong, just a different set of circumstances altogether.

    Around that time we heard a lot about BLM and Antifa, and in some media outlets they seemed to be depicted as similar to each other. 

    I think it’s very clear that’s not the case now, but l’m not sure we knew that at the time. Antifa groups are pretty out there. Hell, l’m still trying to figure out what they’re fighting for and how they think doing what they’re doing will accomplish it. To accomplish anything you need some degree of public support, and l don’t even think they’re trying for that.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    That was after George Floyd’s death in Minnesota and the subsequent riots there. It was clearly a heavy time with an outpouring of support from a lot of people wanting to help but likely not sure how. Not saying right or wrong, just a different set of circumstances altogether.

    Around that time we heard a lot about BLM and Antifa, and in some media outlets they seemed to be depicted as similar to each other. 

    I think it’s very clear that’s not the case now, but l’m not sure we knew that at the time. Antifa groups are pretty out there. Hell, l’m still trying to figure out what they’re fighting for and how they think doing what they’re doing will accomplish it. To accomplish anything you need some degree of public support, and l don’t even think they’re trying for that.

    So why are they not stopping them and why is the MSM ignoring them?