Biden kills 70,000+ U.S. jobs with the stroke of a pen
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I hope the unions remember this when 2024 rolls around.
Unions don’t care about their people anymore
bad as politicians
Unions don’t care about their people anymore
bad as politicians
Wrong
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So you’re insinuating they’re right wing Pro Trump?
I'll wait for ibleedbrown's post. But from what I gather, they have their own agenda neither left nor right- but anti government?
Antifa are 'Lincoln Republicans'.
Flat out Bullshit.
There is no cure for TDS unfortunately.
Unfortunately, there's no cure for BDS, HDS, and DDS either....
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Unions don’t care about their people anymore
bad as politicians
Wrong
Wrong
Broad brush, sorry.
A lot of unions have corruption and piss poor leadership .
Most unions need a complete restructuring and pension protection if that even possible.
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Steve- it would be nice if the right wing of this forum would just STOP with the TDS already.
☆ That’s actually a good idea but not, I’m sure, from the reasons you think so.☆
Lame, lame, lame.
☆Yes it is. So give it a rest. Even though my respect for Joe Biden this just about zero my disagreements with his policies because most of them are ridiculous. There are more than the ones mentioned in this post we can do that at another time. But, and I don’t expect a straight answer, like I have asked on other occasions if there’s discussion about race switch the words black and white and read the statement again. If it now sounds ridiculous it was ridiculous all along. You pretend that you would have backed Mike Pence. Great. How many of these ridiculous orders do you think Mike Pence would have supported or made as president? My guess is, let me think… Could it be… None? A little church lady ref.☆
There's probably at least a hundred or so valid reasons to hate Trump. I can start with Coal Miner's Son Trump- arguably the most anti-environmental president since the EPA came into existence.☆ There’s a lot of stuff here let me try to address them as succinctly as I can. I have very little use for the EPA as I do for most bloated and useless bureaucracies. Especially those who impose punitive restrictions but receive either a zero or minuscule results. Just for the record I don’t care about fracking I don’t care about the pipeline and I don’t care about Anwar. I do care about energy Independence and not having to kiss the Saudis ass for a gallon of gas. But hey this should make the Saudis pretend to love us as much as the Chinese do now.
And speaking of the stupid Paris Accord which puts an extra burden on the United States business and gives a free ride to the people who are the biggest polluters and our competitors. That makes Chinese Goods even more attractive and US Goods less. Some more shit being built in a country with no Environmental Protection whatsoever?☆I stated some damn facts, about the aggrandizing BS regarding the Wall,
☆Again frankly I don’t care about the wall, I don’t think it’s probably the best way to control illegal immigration. But unlike you people I do care about you illegal immigration and would like it to be stopped. Maybe I’m a hypocrite maybe if they all voted Republican I’d be happy to turn the country into a third-world shithole. But I don’t think so.☆
replacing Obamacare with something better,
☆They actually did and I didn’t like the outcome. Removing the Mandate was the linchpin of Obamacare and a bipartisan team pulled it out. I think that was a bad idea and don’t agree with whoever was for that. As a matter of fact I’d have raised the mandate. But no plan of the presidents had a chance in hell of getting past Nancy Pelosi. Don’t play stupid.☆
and his non-existent infrastructure plan.
☆The one that he put forth back in like April or something that Democrats blocked. Again don’t give me a Snow Job any infrastructure plan is going to be a boost to the economy and your girl Nancy was having none of it . ☆
Go ahead- so where am I factually wrong on any of it?☆ I don't see any facts at all just barking and insults☆
He's not God, though some around here think his shit don't stink.
☆I’ve never said anything of the sort. So what are you crying about? Somebody else?☆
1) Numerous posts have shown (and proven) Trump is the person who's deranged. Not those of us who dare to point it out. Tex showed based on a test- Trump is a sociopath. That his narcissism is out of control isn't debatable. Mr. Pathological Liar racked up 30,500 lies and change before he got exiled to Mar a Lago. Swell guy. Couldn't admit Joe beat him fair and square. Called his minions to DC- and then you know what happened. Not his fault? My ass it isn't.☆ I read that it’s horseshit that applies to every politician that ever ran for office and probably every human being who posts on this site. Tex is a lunatic and that study with so ridiculous that qanon would be embarrassed publish it.☆
3) The difference between legal and illegal immigration is Trump and the xenophobes trying to shut the barn door after the horses got out. Read where there's at least 11 million illegals living in the country, some old enough to have kids that are native born right here in the USA. Sorry, kicking them out isn't happening. The other point is back in the 1850s ramping that up to 2020 population- you'd have 42 million immigrants here. Irish decent Steve? I had a talk with a Ranger down at the Towpath Visitor Center. That canal was dug by hand by Irish immigrants who got paid around a dime a day and a shot of whisky after work. They died on an average of one per mile.☆Illegal means illegal. Somebody steals your bike and they don’t get to keep it just because they’ve hidden it in the garage. We’re not fools we know why you guys want more illegals. It’s an especially stupid idea if you are a union worker. But give this 11 million the green light and the next 11 million will be crossing the border before the ink is dry.☆
4) There's TONS of BDS (Biden Derangement Syndrome) HDS (Harris Derangement syndrome) Ah gee- you don't like Kameltoe? I don't like Cheetos- fair enough? DDS (Democrat Derangement Syndrome) going on here. One guy- you know who- is still living 4 years in the past bashing Obama.☆There is. So what? I don’t give a damn about Obama. Some others do and some others are crazy just like you are about Trump. I don’t base my opinions on any policy beast on personal animus to anybody on this board. No matter how crazy they are.☆
Finally- though I do like most, if not all of Joe's executive orders undoing the worst of Trump's mistakes, I'm not going to back him 100%.
I will need to see evidence of that which hasn’t surfaced yet.
It's amazingly hypocritical of Republicans turning into deficit hawks on a dime,☆No shit. How many times have I made the point that it’s disgusting how quickly the two parties change hats depending on who’s sitting in the Oval Office not only on matters of the economy but the military and everything else.☆
when Trump's tax cuts for his rich buddies ballooned the deficit- even with the economy running full tilt☆And now crazy Joe has doubled down on destroying the economy. It’s stupid to think that punishing the rich will make the poor smarter stronger or happier or even self-sufficient.☆
with record low unemployment. It's magical thinking to believe cutting taxes is the way to disappearing deficits and prosperity. If you want better programs-
☆I’m not seeing any of this from Biden. I’m seeing throwing trillions and trillions of dollars away which I can’t imagine isn't going to be a head on Blow to the economy short and Midterm and inflation mid to long-term. Now are there some people in America with pride who would prefer to work than sit on their ass? Sure. But there are a hell of a lot cool quit their jobs now because they’re getting as much or more or at least almost as much for free. Like throwing a hundred pounds have dog food on your back porch does not make the raccoons in the squirrels stronger creatures.☆
and better services- that money doesn't appear out of thin air, it has to be paid for somehow. Regarding local infrastructure... The I-75 Brent Spence Bridge over the Ohio River into Kentucky is at the end of it's useful service life. It's going to cost somewhere around a BILLION dollars at last count to replace it. But let's bitch about raising the federal gas tax by a fucking nickel or dime a gallon instead.☆We’ll talk in a year or twoif its a nickel or dime who cares?
Again see above the infrastructure argument is facetious. Not only that but I can’t imagine the huge amount of graft involved in creating these contracts. But that’s something Joe has always been good at.
And we haven’t even touched on the batshit crazy idea that men should compete with women in sports.
Hopefully the speech-to-text typos haven’t fucked anything up too badly.☆
WSSSteve- it would be nice if the right wing of this forum would just STOP with the TDS already.
☆ That’s actually a good idea but not, I’m sure, from the reasons you think so.☆
I won't quote your entire post Steve. At least you have coherent and well thought out reasons as to why you disagree. That's politics. Unlike the ton of right wing Red State, Newsmax et al propaganda that gets spewed here as factual.
BTW- Should Jim Jordan decides to run for Portman's Senate seat, there's no way in hell I'll ever vote for that Trump ass kisser. If Dayton Mayor Nan Whaley would oppose him- my vote will be "none of the above".
So I guess you can label me as "an independent voter" now. I won't back anyone who's associated with Trumpism.... Yeah- that means Cruz and Hawley too....
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Stage 4 TDS..........
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Broad brush, sorry.
A lot of unions have corruption and piss poor leadership .
Most unions need a complete restructuring and pension protection if that even possible.
I'm sure that's true in some unions, the leadership aspect. It's up to the members to elect the right leader(s), and many are indifferent, then complain when things don't go well.
From my experience, union membership was great. The worry to me now are these politicians, who ironically form their own "union" on Capitol Hill or the statehouse, and try to harm unions with legislation.
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Broad brush, sorry.
A lot of unions have corruption and piss poor leadership .
Most unions need a complete restructuring and pension protection if that even possible.
I'm sure that's true in some unions, the leadership aspect. It's up to the members to elect the right leader(s), and many are indifferent, then complain when things don't go well.
From my experience, union membership was great. The worry to me now are these politicians, who ironically form their own "union" on Capitol Hill or the statehouse, and try to harm unions with legislation.
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Broad brush, sorry.
A lot of unions have corruption and piss poor leadership .
Most unions need a complete restructuring and pension protection if that even possible.
I'm sure that's true in some unions, the leadership aspect. It's up to the members to elect the right leader(s), and many are indifferent, then complain when things don't go well.
From my experience, union membership was great. The worry to me now are these politicians, who ironically form their own "union" on Capitol Hill or the statehouse, and try to harm unions with legislation.
I'm sure that's true in some unions, the leadership aspect. It's up to the members to elect the right leader(s), and many are indifferent, then complain when things don't go well.
From my experience, union membership was great. The worry to me now are these politicians, who ironically form their own "union" on Capitol Hill or the statehouse, and try to harm unions with legislation.
You can look at almost any union trade and see what “poor leadership “ has done to the members and their pensions.
Meanwhile they spend the members money telling them how to vote.
they’re important but need reform
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This doddling old man received 80 million votes?
I hate it when I can’t find the case of pens right in front of my fucking face!
BTW, only a dictator would sign 37 Executive Orders in 6 days...not a President.
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This is a Lincoln Republican winner!
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This is a Lincoln Republican winner!
This is a Lincoln Republican winner!
"winner of the losers"
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Stage 4 TDS..........
Stage 4 TDS..........
Stage 10 DDS... FWIW, the Republican party ceased to exist tonight- at least in any recognizable form. The spineless Retrumplicans voted 45-5 to give their leader another "Get out of Jail Free" card. You can incite an insurrection where people died, just get out of town before they can put the hammer down on you.
Peachy is probably out of the woods now on the FEDERAL level. State level? Stay tuned.
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Stage 4 TDS..........
Stage 10 DDS... FWIW, the Republican party ceased to exist tonight- at least in any recognizable form. The spineless Retrumplicans voted 45-5 to give their leader another "Get out of Jail Free" card. You can incite an insurrection where people died, just get out of town before they can put the hammer down on you.
Peachy is probably out of the woods now on the FEDERAL level. State level? Stay tuned.
Stage 10 DDS... FWIW, the Republican party ceased to exist tonight- at least in any recognizable form. The spineless Retrumplicans voted 45-5 to give their leader another "Get out of Jail Free" card. You can incite an insurrection where people died, just get out of town before they can put the hammer down on you.
Peachy is probably out of the woods now on the FEDERAL level. State level? Stay tuned.
Most likely they voted that way because Democrats are stupid and brought an inpreachment trial with no chance of winning or being considered constitutional. It remains to be seen if the five who dissented are helped or hurt in their re-election bids. Call me a cynic but I completely believe they were planning on TDS being a plus for them or at least a shield against persecution for the mainstream media Monopoly. We shall see.
Of course most Americans are stupid fickle and have extremely short memories. Oh maybe somebody will still have the Trump hatred burning and their souls in two years those people are lunatics.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
Stage 4 TDS..........
Stage 10 DDS... FWIW, the Republican party ceased to exist tonight- at least in any recognizable form. The spineless Retrumplicans voted 45-5 to give their leader another "Get out of Jail Free" card. You can incite an insurrection where people died, just get out of town before they can put the hammer down on you.
Peachy is probably out of the woods now on the FEDERAL level. State level? Stay tuned.
Stage 10 DDS... FWIW, the Republican party ceased to exist tonight- at least in any recognizable form. The spineless Retrumplicans voted 45-5 to give their leader another "Get out of Jail Free" card. You can incite an insurrection where people died, just get out of town before they can put the hammer down on you.
Peachy is probably out of the woods now on the FEDERAL level. State level? Stay tuned.
Your TDS convinced you that he would be 'removed' (even though he is no longer President). You should join the Progressive Party with AOC and the others. You would fit right in.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Stage 4 TDS..........
Stage 10 DDS... FWIW, the Republican party ceased to exist tonight- at least in any recognizable form. The spineless Retrumplicans voted 45-5 to give their leader another "Get out of Jail Free" card. You can incite an insurrection where people died, just get out of town before they can put the hammer down on you.
Peachy is probably out of the woods now on the FEDERAL level. State level? Stay tuned.
Stage 10 DDS... FWIW, the Republican party ceased to exist tonight- at least in any recognizable form. The spineless Retrumplicans voted 45-5 to give their leader another "Get out of Jail Free" card. You can incite an insurrection where people died, just get out of town before they can put the hammer down on you.
Peachy is probably out of the woods now on the FEDERAL level. State level? Stay tuned.
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Stage 10 DDS... FWIW, the Republican party ceased to exist tonight- at least in any recognizable form. The spineless Retrumplicans voted 45-5 to give their leader another "Get out of Jail Free" card. You can incite an insurrection where people died, just get out of town before they can put the hammer down on you.
Peachy is probably out of the woods now on the FEDERAL level. State level? Stay tuned.
Most likely they voted that way because Democrats are stupid and brought an inpreachment trial with no chance of winning or being considered constitutional. It remains to be seen if the five who dissented are helped or hurt in their re-election bids. Call me a cynic but I completely believe they were planning on TDS being a plus for them or at least a shield against persecution for the mainstream media Monopoly. We shall see.
Of course most Americans are stupid fickle and have extremely short memories. Oh maybe somebody will still have the Trump hatred burning and their souls in two years those people are lunatics.
WSS
Most likely they voted that way because Democrats are stupid and brought an inpreachment trial with no chance of winning or being considered constitutional. It remains to be seen if the five who dissented are helped or hurt in their re-election bids. Call me a cynic but I completely believe they were planning on TDS being a plus for them or at least a shield against persecution for the mainstream media Monopoly. We shall see.
Of course most Americans are stupid fickle and have extremely short memories. Oh maybe somebody will still have the Trump hatred burning and their souls in two years those people are lunatics.
WSS
I'll just point out the vast majority of constitutional scholars (with one dissention) say that holding an Impeachment trial after the person has left office- there's nothing in the Constitution that says you can't. I'm sure you're aware there's historical precedent too. When one of Grant's crooks resigned, the House Impeached him and had a trial anyway.
Trump was impeached while he was still in office. Now if Pelosi and company had tried to impeach Trump January 21st or later, I'd 100% be on board it's a non-starter.
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Stage 10 DDS... FWIW, the Republican party ceased to exist tonight- at least in any recognizable form. The spineless Retrumplicans voted 45-5 to give their leader another "Get out of Jail Free" card. You can incite an insurrection where people died, just get out of town before they can put the hammer down on you.
Peachy is probably out of the woods now on the FEDERAL level. State level? Stay tuned.
Your TDS convinced you that he would be 'removed' (even though he is no longer President). You should join the Progressive Party with AOC and the others. You would fit right in.
Your TDS convinced you that he would be 'removed' (even though he is no longer President). You should join the Progressive Party with AOC and the others. You would fit right in.
LOL, he's already "removed". But if convicted, he can be banned from ever holding office again. I've seen some question if convicted- the Senate could pull his Secret Service Protection detail and pension on top of it. It's moot, because the Senate Retrumplicans are almost certainly going to ignore their oath to the Constitution, and declare their undying love (or fear) for an insurrectionist wannabe dictator.
Nah, I certainly don't like the extreme left branch of the Democrats. OTOH, I'm not overly fond of QAnon, the Oath Keepers, and those other extreme right wing nut jobs either. It pains me to see Rob Portman get blasted here for just trying to be a moderate voice of reason.
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Most likely they voted that way because Democrats are stupid and brought an inpreachment trial with no chance of winning or being considered constitutional. It remains to be seen if the five who dissented are helped or hurt in their re-election bids. Call me a cynic but I completely believe they were planning on TDS being a plus for them or at least a shield against persecution for the mainstream media Monopoly. We shall see.
Of course most Americans are stupid fickle and have extremely short memories. Oh maybe somebody will still have the Trump hatred burning and their souls in two years those people are lunatics.
WSS
I'll just point out the vast majority of constitutional scholars (with one dissention) say that holding an Impeachment trial after the person has left office- there's nothing in the Constitution that says you can't. I'm sure you're aware there's historical precedent too. When one of Grant's crooks resigned, the House Impeached him and had a trial anyway.
Trump was impeached while he was still in office. Now if Pelosi and company had tried to impeach Trump January 21st or later, I'd 100% be on board it's a non-starter.
I'll just point out the vast majority of constitutional scholars (with one dissention) say that holding an Impeachment trial after the person has left office- there's nothing in the Constitution that says you can't.
I know they're probably isn't. So what's your mark
I'm sure you're aware there's historical precedent too. When one of Grant's crooks resigned, the House Impeached him and had a trial anyway.
yeah how did that work out?
Trump was impeached while he was still in office. Now if Pelosi and company had tried to impeach Trump January 21st or later, I'd 100% be on board it's a non-starter.
at least a good portion of my guess would be that every politician in the House and Senate are looking at this as setting a very dangerous precedent for the next time the other party has the majority. (by the way I think 12 people on a jury might possibly try to be just I have no such opinion of politicians) As I said before only somebody who's clinically stupid crazy or at least obsessed could read the president's statement as a call to violence. But if it could woth a one vote majority I'm sure you people would do it. But Joe Biden and Barack Obama should be thinking very seriously about the influence-peddling which is pretty clear after 2022.
like the new standard of the nuclear 51-vote standard, that toothpaste is going to be hard to put back in the tube. As much as it might amuse me to see Nancy Pelosi Kamaltoe and Joe Biden dragged out of the Capitol in cuffs it's just going to make our rotten government stink even worse.
WSS
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that is stupid. TDS'ers don't care about our Constutition anyways.
outside of that - the Constitution most certain DOES address it -
it just isn't as obvious as being slapped in the face.
Which only TDS'ers get.
But lefties only FEEL emotions, they don't THINK. But they FEEL like they are "gods", because they
worship their own feelings. Why, you make them unhappy, and you will be cancelled. or your family threatened.
or. you get warning points on some forum.
" The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. "
so, if you are not the president, you cannot be impeached.
So, Hoorta's fake heroes are either imaginary or fake news.
But let's not stop there:
"Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law. "
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