JJ Watt to Cardinals
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Well, again, someone needs to explain the whole cap situation. Unsymp says the Browns have no room. And even with the retirements of McDonald, Pouncey, and if BR takes a vast pay cut, that still does not get the Steelers to the cap break even point. I don't know about the other teams above here.
So...how is that all going to work for someone that has no cap space?
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Well, again, someone needs to explain the whole cap situation. Unsymp says the Browns have no room. And even with the retirements of McDonald, Pouncey, and if BR takes a vast pay cut, that still does not get the Steelers to the cap break even point. I don't know about the other teams above here.
So...how is that all going to work for someone that has no cap space?
Well, again, someone needs to explain the whole cap situation. Unsymp says the Browns have no room. And even with the retirements of McDonald, Pouncey, and if BR takes a vast pay cut, that still does not get the Steelers to the cap break even point. I don't know about the other teams above here.
So...how is that all going to work for someone that has no cap space?
At this point how many teams will be willing to give Watt a long term deal? My guess is none. One year rent a player deal with a lot of incentives.
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I'm interested in the Watt wants to win where watch...
Going home to Green Bay with Rogers is his best landing spot imo.. a mere minus -28M over the cap
I'd really hate the Steelers... a mere minus -30M over the cap
stay tuned & Why not us ?
I'm interested in the Watt wants to win where watch...
Going home to Green Bay with Rogers is his best landing spot imo.. a mere minus -28M over the cap
I'd really hate the Steelers... a mere minus -30M over the cap
stay tuned & Why not us ?
Pass.
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Okkkkk him getting released definitely shaking this up.
Salary cap
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/
It comes down to 3 serious teams assuming he would only go to a playoff contender?
Us
Rats
9ers
We can NOT let him become a rat
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Well, again, someone needs to explain the whole cap situation. Unsymp says the Browns have no room. And even with the retirements of McDonald, Pouncey, and if BR takes a vast pay cut, that still does not get the Steelers to the cap break even point. I don't know about the other teams above here.
So...how is that all going to work for someone that has no cap space?
Well, again, someone needs to explain the whole cap situation. Unsymp says the Browns have no room. And even with the retirements of McDonald, Pouncey, and if BR takes a vast pay cut, that still does not get the Steelers to the cap break even point. I don't know about the other teams above here.
So...how is that all going to work for someone that has no cap space?
1. The Browns MAY spend unused cap from the previous year. We have a lot.
2. They don’t have to extend any player of Major significance in the 2021 offseason.
3. They don’t have to extend any player of major significance but they have to be mindful of the players they sign in 2021 and how their cap numbers (if we sign anyone beyond a one year deal) may play out in 2022, 2023 and down the road when we need to sign our own and Garrett’s cap number is more of a burden.
Watt on a one year deal mentoring the 6-7 rookies we draft is not a bad situation.
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Well, again, someone needs to explain the whole cap situation. Unsymp says the Browns have no room. And even with the retirements of McDonald, Pouncey, and if BR takes a vast pay cut, that still does not get the Steelers to the cap break even point. I don't know about the other teams above here.
So...how is that all going to work for someone that has no cap space?
1. The Browns MAY spend unused cap from the previous year. We have a lot.
2. They don’t have to extend any player of Major significance in the 2021 offseason.
3. They don’t have to extend any player of major significance but they have to be mindful of the players they sign in 2021 and how their cap numbers (if we sign anyone beyond a one year deal) may play out in 2022, 2023 and down the road when we need to sign our own and Garrett’s cap number is more of a burden.
Watt on a one year deal mentoring the 6-7 rookies we draft is not a bad situation.
Watt on a one year deal mentoring the 6-7 rookies we draft is not a bad situation.
Well there's the kicker. He will only sign with someone who offers a multi-year deal IMO.
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Watt on a one year deal mentoring the 6-7 rookies we draft is not a bad situation.
Well there's the kicker. He will only sign with someone who offers a multi-year deal IMO.
Well there's the kicker. He will only sign with someone who offers a multi-year deal IMO.
We will see. I think he goes to the right team before he takes a 2 - 3 year offer from a team like Broncos, Bengals, etc.
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Well there's the kicker. He will only sign with someone who offers a multi-year deal IMO.
We will see. I think he goes to the right team before he takes a 2 - 3 year offer from a team like Broncos, Bengals, etc.
We will see. I think he goes to the right team before he takes a 2 - 3 year offer from a team like Broncos, Bengals, etc.
I’m not sure he would want to sign with the likes of Denver or Cincy.
If he wanted to play for a basement dwelling team, it would’ve made sense to stay with the Texans.
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From SI......
HOME SWEET HOME..... just a thought ?
It is common for aging superstars in all pro sports to want to live out a childhood fantasy and play for the team they rooted for as a child. Watt has spent his entire pro career in Houston, which is more than 1,100 miles from his hometown of Pewaukee, Wisc. and from Madison, Wisc., where he played college football.
It would make perfect sense if he wanted to move back north and get back in touch with his roots.
Best fit: Green Bay. He grew up a Packers fan, and Green Bay is about 130 miles from home. If this is what he wants, it’s no contest.
From FanNation...... another thought ?
Moreover, the Packers’ salary-cap problems have been well documented. The Packers are $28.2 million over a projected cap of $180.5 million, according to OverTheCap.com. While the cap might very well be greater, whatever the number, the Packers have the fifth-worst cap situation in the NFL. So, Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst and cap guru Russ Ball have a lot of work to do just to get below the cap for the start of the league-year on March 17, let alone carving out space for the five-time All-Pro or wrestling with internal free agents such as running back Aaron Jones and center Corey Linsley (from Boardman Ohio)
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I know it's not likely... But I would lose it if he signed in Cleveland. Watt and Garrett together? Lights OUT.
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I know it's not likely... But I would lose it if he signed in Cleveland. Watt and Garrett together? Lights OUT.
I know it's not likely... But I would lose it if he signed in Cleveland. Watt and Garrett together? Lights OUT.
Too good to be true...... maybe not if he wants to go with a contender -and- cap friendly.
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Watt on a one year deal mentoring the 6-7 rookies we draft is not a bad situation.
Well there's the kicker. He will only sign with someone who offers a multi-year deal IMO.
Well there's the kicker. He will only sign with someone who offers a multi-year deal IMO.
There's always the 3-year deal with mutual options after each year.
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Well, again, someone needs to explain the whole cap situation. Unsymp says the Browns have no room. And even with the retirements of McDonald, Pouncey, and if BR takes a vast pay cut, that still does not get the Steelers to the cap break even point. I don't know about the other teams above here.
So...how is that all going to work for someone that has no cap space?
1. The Browns MAY spend unused cap from the previous year. We have a lot.
2. They don’t have to extend any player of Major significance in the 2021 offseason.
3. They don’t have to extend any player of major significance but they have to be mindful of the players they sign in 2021 and how their cap numbers (if we sign anyone beyond a one year deal) may play out in 2022, 2023 and down the road when we need to sign our own and Garrett’s cap number is more of a burden.
Watt on a one year deal mentoring the 6-7 rookies we draft is not a bad situation.
1. The Browns MAY spend unused cap from the previous year. We have a lot.
True, but as explained repeatedly it's money that has accumulated from being under the cap so long and once used is gone forever.
So do you spend a chunk of it on Watt?
If you believe that JJ is the one player between you and the SB, then, and only then, you do.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
It seems to me, fair to say, that one of the Browns goals this offseason is to shore up the defensive line somehow. And, perhaps, a more sure way to do that is to bring in a proven veteran, while also keeping options open to drafting a player there.
Would there be a more sure option out there than bringing in JJ Watt?
Or, are there some other FA Defensive Linemen out there that would be a better choice? Either from the talent/production standpoint....or the monetary standpoint? Names?
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1. The Browns MAY spend unused cap from the previous year. We have a lot.
True, but as explained repeatedly it's money that has accumulated from being under the cap so long and once used is gone forever.
So do you spend a chunk of it on Watt?
If you believe that JJ is the one player between you and the SB, then, and only then, you do.
True, but as explained repeatedly it's money that has accumulated from being under the cap so long and once used is gone forever.
So do you spend a chunk of it on Watt?
If you believe that JJ is the one player between you and the SB, then, and only then, you do.
It will be interesting, because of how they will approach the impending contracts for Ward, Baker and Chubb. Will they defer that to next off season or do it now. I would like JJ at the right price, I think he would help and allow is to use the draft to address the LB situation and adding DBs. Of course if one of the Tampa LBs becomes available that would change things.
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It seems to me, fair to say, that one of the Browns goals this offseason is to shore up the defensive line somehow. And, perhaps, a more sure way to do that is to bring in a proven veteran, while also keeping options open to drafting a player there.
Would there be a more sure option out there than bringing in JJ Watt?
Or, are there some other FA Defensive Linemen out there that would be a better choice? Either from the talent/production standpoint....or the monetary standpoint? Names?
It seems to me, fair to say, that one of the Browns goals this offseason is to shore up the defensive line somehow. And, perhaps, a more sure way to do that is to bring in a proven veteran, while also keeping options open to drafting a player there.
Would there be a more sure option out there than bringing in JJ Watt?
Or, are there some other FA Defensive Linemen out there that would be a better choice? Either from the talent/production standpoint....or the monetary standpoint? Names?
I don’t think there are better options when considering our long term constraints (locking up our own talent)
Ngakeou, Hendrickson maybe Leonard Williams. Based on history they will all command longer term deals.
Maybe Ryan Kerrigan?
These are all 10-15M year type guys the first group probably gets longer deals- I don’t think the Browns want to be locked up with someone down the road like that.
Food for thought and before people jump on me for being crazy.
We draft a guy like Kadrius Toney WR UF. We get calls for OBJ deal him for a 2nd. We save 15M. We have 2,2,3,3,4,4 to fix the defense. Plus We got some cash freed up to get an impact veteran on the Dline.
Losing Njoku saves 6M too.
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It seems to me, fair to say, that one of the Browns goals this offseason is to shore up the defensive line somehow. And, perhaps, a more sure way to do that is to bring in a proven veteran, while also keeping options open to drafting a player there.
Would there be a more sure option out there than bringing in JJ Watt?
Or, are there some other FA Defensive Linemen out there that would be a better choice? Either from the talent/production standpoint....or the monetary standpoint? Names?
I don’t think there are better options when considering our long term constraints (locking up our own talent)
Ngakeou, Hendrickson maybe Leonard Williams. Based on history they will all command longer term deals.
Maybe Ryan Kerrigan?
These are all 10-15M year type guys the first group probably gets longer deals- I don’t think the Browns want to be locked up with someone down the road like that.
Food for thought and before people jump on me for being crazy.
We draft a guy like Kadrius Toney WR UF. We get calls for OBJ deal him for a 2nd. We save 15M. We have 2,2,3,3,4,4 to fix the defense. Plus We got some cash freed up to get an impact veteran on the Dline.
Losing Njoku saves 6M too.
Food for thought and before people jump on me for being crazy.
We draft a guy like Kadrius Toney WR UF. We get calls for OBJ deal him for a 2nd. We save 15M. We have 2,2,3,3,4,4 to fix the defense. Plus We got some cash freed up to get an impact veteran on the Dline.
I do not hate this idea at all.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/news/jj-watt-not-interested-in-steelers
Not that they ever entered the equation for him
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https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/news/jj-watt-not-interested-in-steelers
Not that they ever entered the equation for him
https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/news/jj-watt-not-interested-in-steelers
Not that they ever entered the equation for him
Had me worried there for a minute...
According to Tony Grossi of ESPN 850 in Cleveland, defensive end J.J. Watt is not interested in playing with his brothers T.J. and Derek in Pittsburgh as a member of the Steelers.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
passing is not asking.. were in the mix, as we should be
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