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  • KvoetheK Kvoethe

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Interesting. If you had to pick one, which one would you choose of the 8 identities?

    The one that says I worked hard since 12 with a paper route...bussed tables...went to college...saved my money, wore Jimmy hats...have a decent career.  All with a single mom of 5 raising us.

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    @kvoethe said:

    The one that says I worked hard since 12 with a paper route...bussed tables...went to college...saved my money, wore Jimmy hats...have a decent career.  All with a single mom of 5 raising us.

    It’s obviously not a chart l created but l thought it might be some goofy fun to play along if anyone else was willing. 

    I’m not sure how this answer plays into their definitions, but l guess if you interpret having a work ethic as an attribute of “whiteness” then l guess you could superimpose the term “work ethic” over top the word “white” to find your rating.

    Here’s the definitions they are using taken from Vambo’s link. 

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      @kvoethe said:

      The one that says I worked hard since 12 with a paper route...bussed tables...went to college...saved my money, wore Jimmy hats...have a decent career.  All with a single mom of 5 raising us.

      It’s obviously not a chart l created but l thought it might be some goofy fun to play along if anyone else was willing. 

      I’m not sure how this answer plays into their definitions, but l guess if you interpret having a work ethic as an attribute of “whiteness” then l guess you could superimpose the term “work ethic” over top the word “white” to find your rating.

      Here’s the definitions they are using taken from Vambo’s link. 

      7119449C-A811-416F-9990-D2E5A39658AE.jpeg

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      @ibleedbrown said:

      It’s obviously not a chart l created but l thought it might be some goofy fun to play along if anyone else was willing. 

      I’m not sure how this answer plays into their definitions, but l guess if you interpret having a work ethic as an attribute of “whiteness” then l guess you could superimpose the term “work ethic” over top the word “white” to find your rating.

      Here’s the definitions they are using taken from Vambo’s link. 

      7119449C-A811-416F-9990-D2E5A39658AE.jpeg

      Fucking stupid.  

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        @ibleedbrown said:

        It’s obviously not a chart l created but l thought it might be some goofy fun to play along if anyone else was willing. 

        I’m not sure how this answer plays into their definitions, but l guess if you interpret having a work ethic as an attribute of “whiteness” then l guess you could superimpose the term “work ethic” over top the word “white” to find your rating.

        Here’s the definitions they are using taken from Vambo’s link. 

        7119449C-A811-416F-9990-D2E5A39658AE.jpeg

        Fucking stupid.  

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        @diehardbrownsfan said:

        Fucking stupid.  

        Of course it is. So why not have some fun with it? I’ll play along if anyone else will.

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          Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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          Not sure where I fall.
          Had a job since 16.

          Had both parents and they are still together.

          50 years old and I love my wife and my life

          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            ibb must surely be shep or woodpecker trying to be somebody else.

            not doing much of a good job.....

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              Not sure where I fall.
              Had a job since 16.

              Had both parents and they are still together.

              50 years old and I love my wife and my life

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              IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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              @browns149 said:

              Not sure where I fall.
              Had a job since 16.

              Had both parents and they are still together.

              50 years old and I love my wife and my life

              Their definitions don’t have anything to do with those things. It basically boils down to how proud or ashamed someone is for being white. It’s meant to shame people who are proud to be white. 

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                @browns149 said:

                Not sure where I fall.
                Had a job since 16.

                Had both parents and they are still together.

                50 years old and I love my wife and my life

                Their definitions don’t have anything to do with those things. It basically boils down to how proud or ashamed someone is for being white. It’s meant to shame people who are proud to be white. 

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                @ibleedbrown said:

                Their definitions don’t have anything to do with those things. It basically boils down to how proud or ashamed someone is for being white. It’s meant to shame people who are proud to be white. 

                I'm not proud or ashamed.  Are you?

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                  @browns149 said:

                  Not sure where I fall.
                  Had a job since 16.

                  Had both parents and they are still together.

                  50 years old and I love my wife and my life

                  Their definitions don’t have anything to do with those things. It basically boils down to how proud or ashamed someone is for being white. It’s meant to shame people who are proud to be white. 

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                  @ibleedbrown said:

                  Their definitions don’t have anything to do with those things. It basically boils down to how proud or ashamed someone is for being white. It’s meant to shame people who are proud to be white. 

                  Not proud or ashamed. Just white 

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                    @ibleedbrown said:

                    Their definitions don’t have anything to do with those things. It basically boils down to how proud or ashamed someone is for being white. It’s meant to shame people who are proud to be white. 

                    I'm not proud or ashamed.  Are you?

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                    IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                    @diehardbrownsfan said:

                    I'm not proud or ashamed.  Are you?

                    To play a little devil’s advocate, is it inherently wrong for someone to have a sense of pride in being who they are? After all, they had to be born that way to be eligible. What value comes from being ashamed of that?

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                      Cuck

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                        @browns149 said:

                        Not sure where I fall.
                        Had a job since 16.

                        Had both parents and they are still together.

                        50 years old and I love my wife and my life

                        Their definitions don’t have anything to do with those things. It basically boils down to how proud or ashamed someone is for being white. It’s meant to shame people who are proud to be white. 

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                        @ibleedbrown said:

                        Their definitions don’t have anything to do with those things. It basically boils down to how proud or ashamed someone is for being white. It’s meant to shame people who are proud to be white. 

                        of course it does - that is bs.go back to work already. earn your keep in this world. We don't give out undeserved "participation trophies" for whining.

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                          @ibleedbrown said:

                          Their definitions don’t have anything to do with those things. It basically boils down to how proud or ashamed someone is for being white. It’s meant to shame people who are proud to be white. 

                          of course it does - that is bs.go back to work already. earn your keep in this world. We don't give out undeserved "participation trophies" for whining.

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                          IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                          @calfoxwc said:

                          of course it does - that is bs.go back to work already. earn your keep in this world. We don't give out undeserved "participation trophies" for whining.

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                          It is and it isn’t. After reading their 1 through 8 classifications and how they were presented l could tell immediately what they were trying to do. It makes white people uncomfortable, and that’s what it’s intended to do. They don’t want to answer, they side step or create their own definition, which is exactly what happened here. 

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                            @calfoxwc said:

                            of course it does - that is bs.go back to work already. earn your keep in this world. We don't give out undeserved "participation trophies" for whining.

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                            It is and it isn’t. After reading their 1 through 8 classifications and how they were presented l could tell immediately what they were trying to do. It makes white people uncomfortable, and that’s what it’s intended to do. They don’t want to answer, they side step or create their own definition, which is exactly what happened here. 

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                            @ibleedbrown said:

                            It is and it isn’t. After reading their 1 through 8 classifications and how they were presented l could tell immediately what they were trying to do. It makes white people uncomfortable, and that’s what it’s intended to do. They don’t want to answer, they side step or create their own definition, which is exactly what happened here. 

                            What if everything was reversed and instead of white replace it with black would it be answered...or would there be riots?

                            Things won't get better until prefixes are removed.

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                              @ibleedbrown said:

                              It is and it isn’t. After reading their 1 through 8 classifications and how they were presented l could tell immediately what they were trying to do. It makes white people uncomfortable, and that’s what it’s intended to do. They don’t want to answer, they side step or create their own definition, which is exactly what happened here. 

                              What if everything was reversed and instead of white replace it with black would it be answered...or would there be riots?

                              Things won't get better until prefixes are removed.

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                              @vambo said:

                              What if everything was reversed and instead of white replace it with black would it be answered...or would there be riots?

                              Things won't get better until prefixes are removed.

                              That, or the stigmas get removed from the prefixes. I’m personally rooting for that.

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                                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                I'm not proud or ashamed.  Are you?

                                To play a little devil’s advocate, is it inherently wrong for someone to have a sense of pride in being who they are? After all, they had to be born that way to be eligible. What value comes from being ashamed of that?

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                                @ibleedbrown said:

                                To play a little devil’s advocate, is it inherently wrong for someone to have a sense of pride in being who they are? After all, they had to be born that way to be eligible. What value comes from being ashamed of that?

                                @ibleedbrown said:

                                It is and it isn’t. After reading their 1 through 8 classifications and how they were presented l could tell immediately what they were trying to do. It makes white people uncomfortable, and that’s what it’s intended to do. They don’t want to answer, they side step or create their own definition, which is exactly what happened here. 

                                I'm not uncomfortable at all.  Like I said, its stupid.  

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                                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                  I'm not proud or ashamed.  Are you?

                                  To play a little devil’s advocate, is it inherently wrong for someone to have a sense of pride in being who they are? After all, they had to be born that way to be eligible. What value comes from being ashamed of that?

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                                  @ibleedbrown said:

                                  To play a little devil’s advocate, is it inherently wrong for someone to have a sense of pride in being who they are? After all, they had to be born that way to be eligible. What value comes from being ashamed of that?

                                  Stupid shit like this is just masquerading as racism (not about your post in particular).

                                  But as long as it’s aimed at Caucasians...that’s ok.

                                  What a society we’re living in these days, one would think we would be beyond this.

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                                    @ibleedbrown said:

                                    To play a little devil’s advocate, is it inherently wrong for someone to have a sense of pride in being who they are? After all, they had to be born that way to be eligible. What value comes from being ashamed of that?

                                    Stupid shit like this is just masquerading as racism (not about your post in particular).

                                    But as long as it’s aimed at Caucasians...that’s ok.

                                    What a society we’re living in these days, one would think we would be beyond this.

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                                    @canton-dawg said:

                                    Stupid shit like this is just masquerading as racism (not about your post in particular).

                                    But as long as it’s aimed at Caucasians...that’s ok.

                                    What a society we’re living in these days, one would think we would be beyond this.

                                    You’re not wrong. I suppose all l’m getting at is l understand why this exists.

                                    If you think of society as a body of water, an incident like George Floyd’s death is like a meteor hitting it. It creates tidal waves going in one direction (think riots and black lives matter), then the water crashes into things and flows the other way (think blue lives matter, all lives matter), then crashes into other things and flows the other way (think this chart)...

                                    But with each wave it loses intensity until we’re back to something resembling a calm body of water. It’s why l don’t get too worked up about stuff like this. I recognize the patterns and with a glass half full perspective it’s just a wave to ride to smoother water. Now those earlier waves, those are destructive. But this one is surf-able.

                                    At it’s heart something like this isn’t so bad. An exercise in reflecting on whiteness. The way it’s presented is a little jive though, but that’s because it’s trying to get you to look at it through a different lens. 

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                                      @ibleedbrown said:

                                      To play a little devil’s advocate, is it inherently wrong for someone to have a sense of pride in being who they are? After all, they had to be born that way to be eligible. What value comes from being ashamed of that?

                                      Stupid shit like this is just masquerading as racism (not about your post in particular).

                                      But as long as it’s aimed at Caucasians...that’s ok.

                                      What a society we’re living in these days, one would think we would be beyond this.

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                                      @canton-dawg said:

                                      Stupid shit like this is just masquerading as racism (not about your post in particular).

                                      But as long as it’s aimed at Caucasians...that’s ok.

                                      What a society we’re living in these days, one would think we would be beyond this.

                                      yep. but it's an emotional knee jerk reaction to everything to emphasize conflict and racism, etc....

                                      to keep the masses focused AWAY from the left's continued stupidity, hypocrisy, and failures.

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                                        @vambo said:

                                        What if everything was reversed and instead of white replace it with black would it be answered...or would there be riots?

                                        Things won't get better until prefixes are removed.

                                        That, or the stigmas get removed from the prefixes. I’m personally rooting for that.

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                                        @ibleedbrown said:

                                        That, or the stigmas get removed from the prefixes. I’m personally rooting for that.

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                                          @canton-dawg said:

                                          Stupid shit like this is just masquerading as racism (not about your post in particular).

                                          But as long as it’s aimed at Caucasians...that’s ok.

                                          What a society we’re living in these days, one would think we would be beyond this.

                                          You’re not wrong. I suppose all l’m getting at is l understand why this exists.

                                          If you think of society as a body of water, an incident like George Floyd’s death is like a meteor hitting it. It creates tidal waves going in one direction (think riots and black lives matter), then the water crashes into things and flows the other way (think blue lives matter, all lives matter), then crashes into other things and flows the other way (think this chart)...

                                          But with each wave it loses intensity until we’re back to something resembling a calm body of water. It’s why l don’t get too worked up about stuff like this. I recognize the patterns and with a glass half full perspective it’s just a wave to ride to smoother water. Now those earlier waves, those are destructive. But this one is surf-able.

                                          At it’s heart something like this isn’t so bad. An exercise in reflecting on whiteness. The way it’s presented is a little jive though, but that’s because it’s trying to get you to look at it through a different lens. 

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                                          @ibleedbrown said:

                                          If you think of society as a body of water, an incident like George Floyd’s death is like a meteor hitting it.

                                          The part I don’t understand is, you take the white guy in Texas several years back who was killed by police in the same manner as George Floyd.

                                          Where was the outrage?

                                          Why didn’t it get media attention?

                                          Where were the riots and looting?

                                          Is his life any less important than George Floyd?

                                          The only difference was he was a white guy.

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