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  • C calfoxwc

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Their definitions don’t have anything to do with those things. It basically boils down to how proud or ashamed someone is for being white. It’s meant to shame people who are proud to be white. 

    of course it does - that is bs.go back to work already. earn your keep in this world. We don't give out undeserved "participation trophies" for whining.

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    @calfoxwc said:

    of course it does - that is bs.go back to work already. earn your keep in this world. We don't give out undeserved "participation trophies" for whining.

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    It is and it isn’t. After reading their 1 through 8 classifications and how they were presented l could tell immediately what they were trying to do. It makes white people uncomfortable, and that’s what it’s intended to do. They don’t want to answer, they side step or create their own definition, which is exactly what happened here. 

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      @calfoxwc said:

      of course it does - that is bs.go back to work already. earn your keep in this world. We don't give out undeserved "participation trophies" for whining.

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      It is and it isn’t. After reading their 1 through 8 classifications and how they were presented l could tell immediately what they were trying to do. It makes white people uncomfortable, and that’s what it’s intended to do. They don’t want to answer, they side step or create their own definition, which is exactly what happened here. 

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      @ibleedbrown said:

      It is and it isn’t. After reading their 1 through 8 classifications and how they were presented l could tell immediately what they were trying to do. It makes white people uncomfortable, and that’s what it’s intended to do. They don’t want to answer, they side step or create their own definition, which is exactly what happened here. 

      What if everything was reversed and instead of white replace it with black would it be answered...or would there be riots?

      Things won't get better until prefixes are removed.

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        @ibleedbrown said:

        It is and it isn’t. After reading their 1 through 8 classifications and how they were presented l could tell immediately what they were trying to do. It makes white people uncomfortable, and that’s what it’s intended to do. They don’t want to answer, they side step or create their own definition, which is exactly what happened here. 

        What if everything was reversed and instead of white replace it with black would it be answered...or would there be riots?

        Things won't get better until prefixes are removed.

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        @vambo said:

        What if everything was reversed and instead of white replace it with black would it be answered...or would there be riots?

        Things won't get better until prefixes are removed.

        That, or the stigmas get removed from the prefixes. I’m personally rooting for that.

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          @diehardbrownsfan said:

          I'm not proud or ashamed.  Are you?

          To play a little devil’s advocate, is it inherently wrong for someone to have a sense of pride in being who they are? After all, they had to be born that way to be eligible. What value comes from being ashamed of that?

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          @ibleedbrown said:

          To play a little devil’s advocate, is it inherently wrong for someone to have a sense of pride in being who they are? After all, they had to be born that way to be eligible. What value comes from being ashamed of that?

          @ibleedbrown said:

          It is and it isn’t. After reading their 1 through 8 classifications and how they were presented l could tell immediately what they were trying to do. It makes white people uncomfortable, and that’s what it’s intended to do. They don’t want to answer, they side step or create their own definition, which is exactly what happened here. 

          I'm not uncomfortable at all.  Like I said, its stupid.  

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            @diehardbrownsfan said:

            I'm not proud or ashamed.  Are you?

            To play a little devil’s advocate, is it inherently wrong for someone to have a sense of pride in being who they are? After all, they had to be born that way to be eligible. What value comes from being ashamed of that?

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            @ibleedbrown said:

            To play a little devil’s advocate, is it inherently wrong for someone to have a sense of pride in being who they are? After all, they had to be born that way to be eligible. What value comes from being ashamed of that?

            Stupid shit like this is just masquerading as racism (not about your post in particular).

            But as long as it’s aimed at Caucasians...that’s ok.

            What a society we’re living in these days, one would think we would be beyond this.

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              @ibleedbrown said:

              To play a little devil’s advocate, is it inherently wrong for someone to have a sense of pride in being who they are? After all, they had to be born that way to be eligible. What value comes from being ashamed of that?

              Stupid shit like this is just masquerading as racism (not about your post in particular).

              But as long as it’s aimed at Caucasians...that’s ok.

              What a society we’re living in these days, one would think we would be beyond this.

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              @canton-dawg said:

              Stupid shit like this is just masquerading as racism (not about your post in particular).

              But as long as it’s aimed at Caucasians...that’s ok.

              What a society we’re living in these days, one would think we would be beyond this.

              You’re not wrong. I suppose all l’m getting at is l understand why this exists.

              If you think of society as a body of water, an incident like George Floyd’s death is like a meteor hitting it. It creates tidal waves going in one direction (think riots and black lives matter), then the water crashes into things and flows the other way (think blue lives matter, all lives matter), then crashes into other things and flows the other way (think this chart)...

              But with each wave it loses intensity until we’re back to something resembling a calm body of water. It’s why l don’t get too worked up about stuff like this. I recognize the patterns and with a glass half full perspective it’s just a wave to ride to smoother water. Now those earlier waves, those are destructive. But this one is surf-able.

              At it’s heart something like this isn’t so bad. An exercise in reflecting on whiteness. The way it’s presented is a little jive though, but that’s because it’s trying to get you to look at it through a different lens. 

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                @ibleedbrown said:

                To play a little devil’s advocate, is it inherently wrong for someone to have a sense of pride in being who they are? After all, they had to be born that way to be eligible. What value comes from being ashamed of that?

                Stupid shit like this is just masquerading as racism (not about your post in particular).

                But as long as it’s aimed at Caucasians...that’s ok.

                What a society we’re living in these days, one would think we would be beyond this.

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                @canton-dawg said:

                Stupid shit like this is just masquerading as racism (not about your post in particular).

                But as long as it’s aimed at Caucasians...that’s ok.

                What a society we’re living in these days, one would think we would be beyond this.

                yep. but it's an emotional knee jerk reaction to everything to emphasize conflict and racism, etc....

                to keep the masses focused AWAY from the left's continued stupidity, hypocrisy, and failures.

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                  @vambo said:

                  What if everything was reversed and instead of white replace it with black would it be answered...or would there be riots?

                  Things won't get better until prefixes are removed.

                  That, or the stigmas get removed from the prefixes. I’m personally rooting for that.

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                  @ibleedbrown said:

                  That, or the stigmas get removed from the prefixes. I’m personally rooting for that.

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                    @canton-dawg said:

                    Stupid shit like this is just masquerading as racism (not about your post in particular).

                    But as long as it’s aimed at Caucasians...that’s ok.

                    What a society we’re living in these days, one would think we would be beyond this.

                    You’re not wrong. I suppose all l’m getting at is l understand why this exists.

                    If you think of society as a body of water, an incident like George Floyd’s death is like a meteor hitting it. It creates tidal waves going in one direction (think riots and black lives matter), then the water crashes into things and flows the other way (think blue lives matter, all lives matter), then crashes into other things and flows the other way (think this chart)...

                    But with each wave it loses intensity until we’re back to something resembling a calm body of water. It’s why l don’t get too worked up about stuff like this. I recognize the patterns and with a glass half full perspective it’s just a wave to ride to smoother water. Now those earlier waves, those are destructive. But this one is surf-able.

                    At it’s heart something like this isn’t so bad. An exercise in reflecting on whiteness. The way it’s presented is a little jive though, but that’s because it’s trying to get you to look at it through a different lens. 

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                    @ibleedbrown said:

                    If you think of society as a body of water, an incident like George Floyd’s death is like a meteor hitting it.

                    The part I don’t understand is, you take the white guy in Texas several years back who was killed by police in the same manner as George Floyd.

                    Where was the outrage?

                    Why didn’t it get media attention?

                    Where were the riots and looting?

                    Is his life any less important than George Floyd?

                    The only difference was he was a white guy.

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                      @ibleedbrown said:

                      If you think of society as a body of water, an incident like George Floyd’s death is like a meteor hitting it.

                      The part I don’t understand is, you take the white guy in Texas several years back who was killed by police in the same manner as George Floyd.

                      Where was the outrage?

                      Why didn’t it get media attention?

                      Where were the riots and looting?

                      Is his life any less important than George Floyd?

                      The only difference was he was a white guy.

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                      @canton-dawg said:

                      The part I don’t understand is, you take the white guy in Texas several years back who was killed by police in the same manner as George Floyd.

                      Where was the outrage?

                      Why didn’t it get media attention?

                      Where were the riots and looting?

                      Is his life any less important than George Floyd?

                      The only difference was he was a white guy.

                      well, the meteor isn't allowed to "hit the water" because obaMao commie and the msm don't get leftwing political advantage over a white guy who dies.

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                        @ibleedbrown said:

                        If you think of society as a body of water, an incident like George Floyd’s death is like a meteor hitting it.

                        The part I don’t understand is, you take the white guy in Texas several years back who was killed by police in the same manner as George Floyd.

                        Where was the outrage?

                        Why didn’t it get media attention?

                        Where were the riots and looting?

                        Is his life any less important than George Floyd?

                        The only difference was he was a white guy.

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                        IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                        @canton-dawg said:

                        The part I don’t understand is, you take the white guy in Texas several years back who was killed by police in the same manner as George Floyd.

                        Where was the outrage?

                        Why didn’t it get media attention?

                        Where were the riots and looting?

                        Is his life any less important than George Floyd?

                        The only difference was he was a white guy.

                        Those are all questions that sort of boil down to something that this chart is driving at. Why are we different? What is so different between being black or white?

                        I don’t really have those answers. Like most of us l’m stuck with my own life experiences and perspective that comes with that. I’m pretty well convinced there are differences though, and you can pick up nuggets of perspective here and there if you look for them.

                        It’s a process. There’s a whole lot l don’t understand, but l’m a curious dude who tries to figure stuff out. 

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                          @canton-dawg said:

                          The part I don’t understand is, you take the white guy in Texas several years back who was killed by police in the same manner as George Floyd.

                          Where was the outrage?

                          Why didn’t it get media attention?

                          Where were the riots and looting?

                          Is his life any less important than George Floyd?

                          The only difference was he was a white guy.

                          Those are all questions that sort of boil down to something that this chart is driving at. Why are we different? What is so different between being black or white?

                          I don’t really have those answers. Like most of us l’m stuck with my own life experiences and perspective that comes with that. I’m pretty well convinced there are differences though, and you can pick up nuggets of perspective here and there if you look for them.

                          It’s a process. There’s a whole lot l don’t understand, but l’m a curious dude who tries to figure stuff out. 

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                          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          @ibleedbrown said:

                          Those are all questions that sort of boil down to something that this chart is driving at. Why are we different? What is so different between being black or white?

                          I don’t really have those answers. Like most of us l’m stuck with my own life experiences and perspective that comes with that. I’m pretty well convinced there are differences though, and you can pick up nuggets of perspective here and there if you look for them.

                          It’s a process. There’s a whole lot l don’t understand, but l’m a curious dude who tries to figure stuff out. 

                          Having served in the Army and Navy, and being stationed with blacks from 17 on I think I know more than some liberal fucking principal.

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                            @ibleedbrown said:

                            Those are all questions that sort of boil down to something that this chart is driving at. Why are we different? What is so different between being black or white?

                            I don’t really have those answers. Like most of us l’m stuck with my own life experiences and perspective that comes with that. I’m pretty well convinced there are differences though, and you can pick up nuggets of perspective here and there if you look for them.

                            It’s a process. There’s a whole lot l don’t understand, but l’m a curious dude who tries to figure stuff out. 

                            Having served in the Army and Navy, and being stationed with blacks from 17 on I think I know more than some liberal fucking principal.

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                            @diehardbrownsfan said:

                            Having served in the Army and Navy, and being stationed with blacks from 17 on I think I know more than some liberal fucking principal.

                            If you have nuggets of wisdom on what makes us react so differently to similar events then feel free to share.

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                              More than nuggets asshole.  What's your experience 'black studies' in college?

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                                More than nuggets asshole.  What's your experience 'black studies' in college?

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                                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                More than nuggets asshole.  What's your experience 'black studies' in college?

                                Ha, let me rephrase. I am asking for the information you have on the above matters in order to learn from you. 

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                                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                  More than nuggets asshole.  What's your experience 'black studies' in college?

                                  Ha, let me rephrase. I am asking for the information you have on the above matters in order to learn from you. 

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                                  @ibleedbrown said:

                                  Ha, let me rephrase. I am asking for the information you have on the above matters in order to learn from you. 

                                  Lets here your experience first.  

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                                    @ibleedbrown said:

                                    Ha, let me rephrase. I am asking for the information you have on the above matters in order to learn from you. 

                                    Lets here your experience first.  

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                                    @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                    Lets here your experience first.  

                                    I already said l don’t have the answers. Think of me as someone seeking wisdom.

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                                      @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                      Lets here your experience first.  

                                      I already said l don’t have the answers. Think of me as someone seeking wisdom.

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                                      @ibleedbrown said:

                                      I already said l don’t have the answers. Think of me as someone seeking wisdom.

                                      I think you're just a troll.

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                                        @ibleedbrown said:

                                        I already said l don’t have the answers. Think of me as someone seeking wisdom.

                                        I think you're just a troll.

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                                        @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                        I think you're just a troll.

                                        Because l’m asking for your wisdom? Some people would see that as a compliment. You freely offered up that you know more than this college professor guy. I’m just looking to share in your knowledge.

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                                          @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                          I think you're just a troll.

                                          Because l’m asking for your wisdom? Some people would see that as a compliment. You freely offered up that you know more than this college professor guy. I’m just looking to share in your knowledge.

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                                          @ibleedbrown said:

                                          Because l’m asking for your wisdom? Some people would see that as a compliment. You freely offered up that you know more than this college professor guy. I’m just looking to share in your knowledge.

                                          I want to share in your infinite wisdom .

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