The official Terry Pluto thread
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This team just feels legit to me... Gotta love how these Browns play... scrappy fuckers... I love it!...
This team just feels legit to me... Gotta love how these Browns play... scrappy fuckers... I love it!...
Hmmmm...
Anyone ever seen nickers and Terry at the same time?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Yup...
If it wasn't already, then I'm pretty sure Baker's 5th-year option pick up is a lock after Sunday.
Yup...
If it wasn't already, then I'm pretty sure Baker's 5th-year option pick up is a lock after Sunday.
Joining a program coming off 0-16 football that remained winless (0-1-1) and sporting a 14-0 deficit (only to erase it and lead Cleveland to it's first win) - was a sneak preview of what Baker is capable of. All he did the rest of his rookie year was throw an NFL record of 27 TD passes for a rookie QB to help a previous bottom feeder finish 7-8-1. That WOULD have been good enough for Rookie of the Year IF Saquan Barkley didn't play in the largest market for an award determined by a popular vote.
Unfortunately, the soph slump invited critics concerning Baker's talent and questions about his maturity on a franchise with a fanbase well trained for the "Here we go again." However, an incredible job was done by the new FO last offseason with hiring the right HC and upgrading the personnel all over this team. This is EVERYTHING we've always wanted around a young QB. Year #3 still had lessons to be learned by Baker and some of them the hard way like WILL YOU PLEASE SECURE THE FREAKIN FOOTBALL?
All young QBs have things to learn; while their staffs have things to learn about them. Big reasons why continuity of HC, OC and QB Coaches are a necessity. This post season features 3 different QBs in Baker's draft class. 2 of them, have had continuity in their coaching staffs guiding them. If anyone has looked at the job Buffalo has done with Josh Allen - he's thrown 37 TD passes to just 10 INTs. They tweaked some bad habits so that he could dominate NFL competition far better than he was ever able to at the college level with all that untapped arm talent. He's also dangerous on the scramble. Unfortunately, Lamar Jackson has a way of making the field look double-wide and the opposing defense like it's only using 8 defenders. Both of these teams have learned to utilize the blessings their young QBs bring and tweak what they need to. It's like they have a 2 year head start on Baker. That said, Baker and the Browns are still in the playoffs just like those 2 guys. 1 game at a time!
This week we face a QB, that was drafted in 2017. Like Tom Brady, Mahomes didn't start in his rookie year. Unlike Tom Brady, he went to an offensive minded HC that developed Brett Favre in GB and Donovan McNabb in Philly. Andy Reid already heard the nonsense about QBs from unconventional offenses about Favre at So Miss before he drafted McNabb 2nd overall in 99 out of Syracuse. This was a great situation for Patrick Mahomes. He got to witness Alex Smith leading KC to the playoffs under Andy Reid's guidance. Above all, that was a playoff roster that welcomed his 1st start 1 year later. There was a little bit less to improve in KC's setting. That said, it's unbelievable how much he improved everything. Next thing we know the same fans that wanted Andy Reid gone in Philly were suddenly asking "WHY DID WE GIVE UP ON THAT FUCKING GUY?" Just add alcohol and you understand why Philly used to have jail cells and a court room in Veteran's Stadium.
No matter what happens this weekend, I'm very proud of this team and the entire coaching staff for all they are accomplishing in spite of adversity from the onset. Dom gummit, we get to watch our team in ANOTHER playoff game this weekend. Every damn one of you DESERVES this!
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Love Pluto's bullet-point style.
Takes a thought or observation or quote, and fleshes it out just enough to provoke thought.
Some people just have a natural gift for written communication to get a good response from the readers. And he just has the right persoality and demeanor for the job which all the good ones make look so effortless.
Glad our WSS puts them up here.
Some people just have a natural gift for written communication to get a good response from the readers. And he just has the right persoality and demeanor for the job which all the good ones make look so effortless.
Glad our WSS puts them up here.
From October 2018 and I still enjoy reading and sharing thoughts on Mr Pluto.
Thanks again Steve aka WSS.
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Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz and Cleveland Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield talk after a 2020 game. Should the fall of Wentz be a warning sign about Mayfield? John Kuntz, cleveland.com
Should the BROWNS fans worry ? Maybe not. (read the article)
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Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz and Cleveland Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield talk after a 2020 game. Should the fall of Wentz be a warning sign about Mayfield? John Kuntz, cleveland.com
Should the BROWNS fans worry ? Maybe not. (read the article)
Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz and Cleveland Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield talk after a 2020 game. Should the fall of Wentz be a warning sign about Mayfield? John Kuntz, cleveland.com
Should the BROWNS fans worry ? Maybe not. (read the article)
It is fucktard asshole reasoning to equate Baker with Wentz. Why should he be equated with Wentz any more than he should be equated with Peyton Manning, or Drew Brees, or John Elway or Jim Kelly, or John Unitas or Roger Staubach.
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Neither am I. I would have liked to have the guy I was assuming he had a winning attitude. I had guessed he would see the Browns as an up-and-coming team with a good shot at the Super Bowl. Apparently the money meant more than winning. Nothing wrong with that I guess. Lots of players feel that way on the back nine. But it's not somebody who is going to be an emotional team leader. Like Landry. If he still is...
Plus those grapes are probably sour anyway...
WSS
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I would hate it if they bailed on Mayfield.
Don't trust Clowney either.
WSS
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I would hate it if they bailed on Mayfield.
Don't trust Clowney either.
WSS
I mentioned that Paul Brown never won a title without Otto Graham.“He never even won a playoff game without Otto Graham,” said the executive. “Great coach, but he needed the quarterback.”
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Of course in most of Paul's day with a non-expansion team there was only one "playoff game"...
... so there's that.
Late in his career he had Dr. Frank (who won a championship under Collier) and then Ken Anderson in Cinci after the team got pretty good. Both QBs were better than good.
Bottom line: While a great innovator in his days in H.S., college, the AAFC and early NFL, the NFL caught up with pretty quickly. Not even good QBs could help him enough to make, let alone go deep into the playoffs.
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I'm still on the fence over clowney.
WSS
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Of course in most of Paul's day with a non-expansion team there was only one "playoff game"...
... so there's that.
Late in his career he had Dr. Frank (who won a championship under Collier) and then Ken Anderson in Cinci after the team got pretty good. Both QBs were better than good.
Bottom line: While a great innovator in his days in H.S., college, the AAFC and early NFL, the NFL caught up with pretty quickly. Not even good QBs could help him enough to make, let alone go deep into the playoffs.
Of course in most of Paul's day with a non-expansion team there was only one "playoff game"...
... so there's that.
Late in his career he had Dr. Frank (who won a championship under Collier) and then Ken Anderson in Cinci after the team got pretty good. Both QBs were better than good.
Bottom line: While a great innovator in his days in H.S., college, the AAFC and early NFL, the NFL caught up with pretty quickly. Not even good QBs could help him enough to make, let alone go deep into the playoffs.
Perhaps the key to the Browns was Jim Brown?
WSS
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I'm still on the fence over clowney.
WSS
I'm still on the fence over clowney.
WSS
Not me. And here is why because this is exactly how I see him.
"6. The Browns aren’t thinking about their line in the traditional four-man front with two defensive tackles and two defensive ends lining up in the same spots. They see Clowney as a versatile player who can line up at defensive end or inside. He is very strong against the run, perhaps his best attribute. That allows the Browns to move him into various spots along the line."
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12. The Browns don’t say this, but you can view the Clowney signing as a low-risk gamble with a possible high payoff. It’s doubtful they’d find someone in this draft capable of immediately producing to the level of a reasonably healthy Clowney. If he struggles and/or is injured, the defense doesn’t rise or fall with him.
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