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  • I don't think he's worth it honestly... I find him to be very average.. Jerry done fucked it up for all of the other clubs by over paying for average... What do you suppose Baker will ask for...?

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @nickers said:

    I don't think he's worth it honestly... I find him to be very average.. Jerry done fucked it up for all of the other clubs by over paying for average... What do you suppose Baker will ask for...?

    He is not average but he does need an OL now, not unlike Baker before last year.

  • AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by
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  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    ........maybe merge these two threads, Dak's contract and the quarterback merry-go-round ?

    Meanwhile

    Dak Prescott's future with the Cowboys is secure. Now the hard part begins

    Dan Wetzel
    Dan Wetzel
    Tue, March 9, 2021, 11:06 AM·5 min read
     

    Five seasons into his NFL career and Dak Prescott’s biggest victory is over Jerry Jones.

    Twenty-five years into a Super Bowl drought, Jones was forced on Monday, mainly due to his own poor negotiations, to bank the Dallas Cowboys' championship hopes on dropping a whopping $160 million over four years on Prescott.

    The good news is a deal got done, because Dallas was done without it.

    Good for Prescott, who went from fourth-round draft steal to (depending on how you calculate it) the highest-paid quarterback in the league. And good for Jones, who acknowledged his mistakes, overcame his famed stubbornness and moved forward with what’s best for the franchise.

    The bad news? Now the hard part begins. For both sides.

    Start with Jones, who bought the Cowboys a chance via a huge sticker price for Prescott — $126 million guaranteed. The alternative was prohibitive. Applying the franchise tag to Prescott again, to the tune of $37.7 million for 2021 and essentially giving him the chance to walk away next offseason, was a recipe for disaster.

    If Jones had handled this properly — namely signing Prescott two years ago, not running back Ezekiel Elliott — he would have wrapped up the QB for something close to $32 million per year. That was a past mistake, though. At least Dallas dug out from it.........CONTINUED ON YAHOO SPORTS......March 9 2021.......

     
  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    Oh is Dak really worthy of being the highest paid NFL quarterback.......well anywhere besides Jerryworld ?

    This just keeps driving UP the insane NFL QB arms race, real bad for the small market teams and overall salary caps everywhere.

  • jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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    Dak Prescott is a top 10 (albeit on the 9-10 range) QB in the NFL. I genuinely don't get how people don't see that, and stats and data support that as well. He's firmly in the "tier 2" of QB play (which is where I'd put Mayfield, as well). You could argue before being injured he was playing at "tier 1" level as well. Dude was 4th in QBR in 2019, and was on pace to be a top 5 QBR type player in 2020 as well. Deshaun Watson and Prescott have eerily similar stats, yet somehow Watson is worth the money? Come on. 

    If you want to argue the QB's are getting too much money, how it impacts the cap? I'm with you. But Prescott absolutely deserves to be paid as a starting NFL QB, and Mayfield will too if he puts up a similar year to 2020.

  • AxeA Axe

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    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by jrb12711
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    @axe said:

    159343375_3555934087965062_9135725950886

    That decision to take pay cuts is about 10000000000x easier when your wife is worth $400 million by herself and grosses $40-60 million dollars annually. That really can't be understated.

  • Dak Prescott is a top 10 (albeit on the 9-10 range) QB in the NFL. I genuinely don't get how people don't see that, and stats and data support that as well. He's firmly in the "tier 2" of QB play (which is where I'd put Mayfield, as well). You could argue before being injured he was playing at "tier 1" level as well. Dude was 4th in QBR in 2019, and was on pace to be a top 5 QBR type player in 2020 as well. Deshaun Watson and Prescott have eerily similar stats, yet somehow Watson is worth the money? Come on. 

    If you want to argue the QB's are getting too much money, how it impacts the cap? I'm with you. But Prescott absolutely deserves to be paid as a starting NFL QB, and Mayfield will too if he puts up a similar year to 2020.

    S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
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    @jrb12711 said:

    Dak Prescott is a top 10 (albeit on the 9-10 range) QB in the NFL. I genuinely don't get how people don't see that, and stats and data support that as well. He's firmly in the "tier 2" of QB play (which is where I'd put Mayfield, as well). You could argue before being injured he was playing at "tier 1" level as well. Dude was 4th in QBR in 2019, and was on pace to be a top 5 QBR type player in 2020 as well. Deshaun Watson and Prescott have eerily similar stats, yet somehow Watson is worth the money? Come on. 

    If you want to argue the QB's are getting too much money, how it impacts the cap? I'm with you. But Prescott absolutely deserves to be paid as a starting NFL QB, and Mayfield will too if he puts up a similar year to 2020.

    ^^^This.

    Where were you with this spot on opinion weeks ago when I had my Dak Pom Poms on. 

    And The next QB in line to get paid will get a ridiculous contract too and the one after that as well. 
     

    It has become a passing league and position most in control of that is the QB.  Flip side it has become a disrupt the passer league you can’t touch WR so you need to disrupt the QB with pressure.

    It is no wonder that QBs and Pass rushers get paid.  The system is not flawed. They are the two most important positions in the game. 

  • Dak Prescott is a top 10 (albeit on the 9-10 range) QB in the NFL. I genuinely don't get how people don't see that, and stats and data support that as well. He's firmly in the "tier 2" of QB play (which is where I'd put Mayfield, as well). You could argue before being injured he was playing at "tier 1" level as well. Dude was 4th in QBR in 2019, and was on pace to be a top 5 QBR type player in 2020 as well. Deshaun Watson and Prescott have eerily similar stats, yet somehow Watson is worth the money? Come on. 

    If you want to argue the QB's are getting too much money, how it impacts the cap? I'm with you. But Prescott absolutely deserves to be paid as a starting NFL QB, and Mayfield will too if he puts up a similar year to 2020.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @jrb12711 said:

    Dak Prescott is a top 10 (albeit on the 9-10 range) QB in the NFL. I genuinely don't get how people don't see that, and stats and data support that as well. He's firmly in the "tier 2" of QB play (which is where I'd put Mayfield, as well). You could argue before being injured he was playing at "tier 1" level as well. Dude was 4th in QBR in 2019, and was on pace to be a top 5 QBR type player in 2020 as well. Deshaun Watson and Prescott have eerily similar stats, yet somehow Watson is worth the money? Come on. 

    If you want to argue the QB's are getting too much money, how it impacts the cap? I'm with you. But Prescott absolutely deserves to be paid as a starting NFL QB, and Mayfield will too if he puts up a similar year to 2020.

    Good NFL starting quarterback,  yes.

    Overpaid even in Jerryworld, yes.

    Worth being the highest paid NFL quarterback, no.

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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    From Spotrac 2021.  I think many people might agree that the NFL arms race is kind of screwed up out there.

    For all of the numbers https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings

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  • @jrb12711 said:

    Dak Prescott is a top 10 (albeit on the 9-10 range) QB in the NFL. I genuinely don't get how people don't see that, and stats and data support that as well. He's firmly in the "tier 2" of QB play (which is where I'd put Mayfield, as well). You could argue before being injured he was playing at "tier 1" level as well. Dude was 4th in QBR in 2019, and was on pace to be a top 5 QBR type player in 2020 as well. Deshaun Watson and Prescott have eerily similar stats, yet somehow Watson is worth the money? Come on. 

    If you want to argue the QB's are getting too much money, how it impacts the cap? I'm with you. But Prescott absolutely deserves to be paid as a starting NFL QB, and Mayfield will too if he puts up a similar year to 2020.

    Good NFL starting quarterback,  yes.

    Overpaid even in Jerryworld, yes.

    Worth being the highest paid NFL quarterback, no.

    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    Good NFL starting quarterback,  yes.

    Overpaid even in Jerryworld, yes.

    Worth being the highest paid NFL quarterback, no.

    The thing is, highest paid QB in the league has been nothing more than a benchmark, not some badge of honor. I'm almost positive Derek Carr, Jimmy G, and Kirk Cousins were technically the highest paid dudes for a while when they first got their deals. Again, we're just going to disagree that he's only "good". Prescott from a stats standpoint would have been a top 3-4 MVP vote getter if healthy.

    All I'm going to say is that Baker, barring serious regression, is going to get a very similar deal. You may want to strap in if this deal doesn't make you happy from a money standpoint.

  • @axe said:

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    That decision to take pay cuts is about 10000000000x easier when your wife is worth $400 million by herself and grosses $40-60 million dollars annually. That really can't be understated.

    AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by
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    @jrb12711 said:

    That decision to take pay cuts is about 10000000000x easier when your wife is worth $400 million by herself and grosses $40-60 million dollars annually. That really can't be understated.

    Well, actually it can when you realize Brady has career earnings of $288 million

  • AxeA Axe

    @jrb12711 said:

    That decision to take pay cuts is about 10000000000x easier when your wife is worth $400 million by herself and grosses $40-60 million dollars annually. That really can't be understated.

    Well, actually it can when you realize Brady has career earnings of $288 million

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @axe said:

    Well, actually it can when you realize Brady has career earnings of $288 million

    And TB12 has played longer than Moses but if he hangs around for 1 more year he'll hit $300M+ ......... just football.

  • S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
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    And I wouldn’t want to be the Ravens.

    Franchise QB.  MVP.  

    They are paying a scrambling QB money into his late 20s and into his Early 30s.

  • @axe said:

    Well, actually it can when you realize Brady has career earnings of $288 million

    And TB12 has played longer than Moses but if he hangs around for 1 more year he'll hit $300M+ ......... just football.

    AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by Axe
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    @mjp28 said:

    And TB12 has played longer than Moses but if he hangs around for 1 more year he'll hit $300M+ ......... just football.

    He is in the process of restructuring and extending his contract to free up cap space for the Bucs. No small reason I'm sure as to how the Bucs resigned Lavonte David and tagged Chris Godwin.

    Prescott and his deal effectively prevent the Cowboys from being able to afford upgrades.

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/

  • AxeA Axe

    @jrb12711 said:

    That decision to take pay cuts is about 10000000000x easier when your wife is worth $400 million by herself and grosses $40-60 million dollars annually. That really can't be understated.

    Well, actually it can when you realize Brady has career earnings of $288 million

    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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    @axe said:

    Well, actually it can when you realize Brady has career earnings of $288 million

    No matter how you slice it, it's insanely easier to leave money on the table when it's growing on your trees. I'm not going to fault guys for not taking a pay cut compared to the situaton TB12 has had the last 10+ years of his career.

  • @axe said:

    Well, actually it can when you realize Brady has career earnings of $288 million

    No matter how you slice it, it's insanely easier to leave money on the table when it's growing on your trees. I'm not going to fault guys for not taking a pay cut compared to the situaton TB12 has had the last 10+ years of his career.

    S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
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    @jrb12711 said:

    No matter how you slice it, it's insanely easier to leave money on the table when it's growing on your trees. I'm not going to fault guys for not taking a pay cut compared to the situaton TB12 has had the last 10+ years of his career.

    Well the Players Union may have had another opinion on that when you are at the top or near the top....You get paid.... not only for yourself but the amount you get can/should improve the contracts of others.

  • @nickers said:

    I don't think he's worth it honestly... I find him to be very average.. Jerry done fucked it up for all of the other clubs by over paying for average... What do you suppose Baker will ask for...?

    He is not average but he does need an OL now, not unlike Baker before last year.

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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    @texasag1969 said:

    He is not average but he does need an OL now, not unlike Baker before last year.

    He's average... He has Romoitis!

  • And I wouldn’t want to be the Ravens.

    Franchise QB.  MVP.  

    They are paying a scrambling QB money into his late 20s and into his Early 30s.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @sdbacker80 said:

    And I wouldn’t want to be the Ravens.

    Franchise QB.  MVP.  

    They are paying a scrambling QB money into his late 20s and into his Early 30s.

    Oh yeah..... everytime any wild, crazy running QB gets that look and just takes off...... meanwhile a big LB or SS gets that look and thinks ? I'm going to smack that overpaid smartazz QB.

    And ~ SPLAT ! ~  Time for the concussion tent.     😵

  • @axe said:

    Well, actually it can when you realize Brady has career earnings of $288 million

    No matter how you slice it, it's insanely easier to leave money on the table when it's growing on your trees. I'm not going to fault guys for not taking a pay cut compared to the situaton TB12 has had the last 10+ years of his career.

    AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by Axe
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    @jrb12711 said:

    No matter how you slice it, it's insanely easier to leave money on the table when it's growing on your trees. I'm not going to fault guys for not taking a pay cut compared to the situaton TB12 has had the last 10+ years of his career.

    Well, here's how I slice it.. Win something first and then demand your money.. Until then, get comfortable but don't hamstring your team with your never won nothing I'm a Diva contract. Leave them room to put the pcs in place so you CAN win something..

    Baker, ya listening?

  • AxeA Axe

    @jrb12711 said:

    No matter how you slice it, it's insanely easier to leave money on the table when it's growing on your trees. I'm not going to fault guys for not taking a pay cut compared to the situaton TB12 has had the last 10+ years of his career.

    Well, here's how I slice it.. Win something first and then demand your money.. Until then, get comfortable but don't hamstring your team with your never won nothing I'm a Diva contract. Leave them room to put the pcs in place so you CAN win something..

    Baker, ya listening?

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @axe said:

    Well, here's how I slice it.. Win something first and then demand your money.. Until then, get comfortable but don't hamstring your team with your never won nothing I'm a Diva contract. Leave them room to put the pcs in place so you CAN win something..

    Baker, ya listening?

    So a person should give up money they could earn for the greater good of others?

    Oh, the irony. Nice profile pic, by the way.