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Ogunjobi signs with Bengals - Njoku gets guaranteed money

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  • nickersN nickers wrote on
    #2

    Njoku has all the tools.. He just needs to get his head out of his butt hole and focus... on Football...

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on
    #3

    Joke has the tools.  He just doesn't know how to use them.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #4

    .. or we finally have a HC/Staff that know how to motivate/use him.

    Njoku was drafted as a gifted prospect to develop... a job entrusted to Hue Jackson. 😳 Still his second season... 1st with Baker (eventually) was his most productive.

    2019 he was hurt...

    ... and then in 2020 there came Stef... Hoop... Bryant... and a clear message which was just clearly received.

    By every advanced metric 2020 was David's best receiving season to date.

    And shock of shocks we learned not only was he also a capable blocker, but the best blocking TE we had on our roster.

    I can't wait to see what he does this season.

    My biggest fear is that we won't be able to afford him when it's over...

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    .. or we finally have a HC/Staff that know how to motivate/use him.

    Njoku was drafted as a gifted prospect to develop... a job entrusted to Hue Jackson. 😳 Still his second season... 1st with Baker (eventually) was his most productive.

    2019 he was hurt...

    ... and then in 2020 there came Stef... Hoop... Bryant... and a clear message which was just clearly received.

    By every advanced metric 2020 was David's best receiving season to date.

    And shock of shocks we learned not only was he also a capable blocker, but the best blocking TE we had on our roster.

    I can't wait to see what he does this season.

    My biggest fear is that we won't be able to afford him when it's over...

    C calfoxwc wrote on
    #5

    @tour2ma said:

    .. or we finally have a HC/Staff that know how to motivate/use him.

    I can't wait to see what he does this season.

    My biggest fear is that we won't be able to afford him when it's over...

    Agreed, but I think his dropped passes shouldn't have had to be resolved by coaches.

    And he has always been a low key distraction and whiner.

    It would be great if he really stepped up and became a star - he has the ability.

    It just seems after this time in the NFL, he hasn't worked on becoming that, I would guess because he

    doesn't love the game, he loves the paychecks.

    David Njoku needs to drop fewer passes, and TE coach Drew ...

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/08/david...

    Aug 19, 2020 · Njoku dropped 8 of 64 catchable passes in 2018, for a league-high drop rate of 12.5 among tight ends. He dropped 2 of 7 catchable passes last season (28.6 drop …

    Browns' David Njoku: Struggles with drops Sunday ...

    https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/...

    Jul 29, 2018 · Njoku -- who dropped three passes during his rookie season -- is expected to take the bulk of the team's snaps at tight end after sharing the position with Seth DeValve (thigh) in …

  • L LondonBrown wrote on
    #6

    One day folks will realise dropped passes mean......nothing

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  • L LondonBrown

    One day folks will realise dropped passes mean......nothing

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on
    #7

    @londonbrown said:

    One day folks will realise dropped passes mean......nothing

    Is this a joke? 

    L 1 Reply
  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on
    #8

    i honestly think Njoku was so young & physically gifted coming out of Miami...He thought he did not need nfl coaching or Darren Fells to teach him anything...

    I saw a change last season when the kid accepted blocking coaching assignments... I see a big year for the Joke & hope he can stay healthy..

    Wouldn't we all love to be 24 again, ripped with 4 years of nfl experience ?  earn your money kid & good luck

    Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends
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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @londonbrown said:

    One day folks will realise dropped passes mean......nothing

    Is this a joke? 

    L LondonBrown wrote on
    #9

    @dutch-oven said:

    Is this a joke? 

    Nope. “He dropped three passes a year” 

    Front offices don’t care 

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  • L LondonBrown

    @dutch-oven said:

    Is this a joke? 

    Nope. “He dropped three passes a year” 

    Front offices don’t care 

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on
    #10

    @londonbrown said:

    Nope. “He dropped three passes a year” 

    Front offices don’t care 

    If he dropped 3 passes a year, and caught 60, no one would care.

    But, as shown above, he had one season where he dropped 12.5% of passes thrown to him. 

    Saying front offices don't care about dropped passes is akin to saying MLB front offices don't care that there shortstop makes 40 errors a season. 

    Tour2maT 1 Reply
  • jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on
    #11

    Sad to see Larry go-he was the first player drafted by my alma mater and really had two strong years before this last season. I'm sure he'll have a good career in the NFL.

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @londonbrown said:

    Nope. “He dropped three passes a year” 

    Front offices don’t care 

    If he dropped 3 passes a year, and caught 60, no one would care.

    But, as shown above, he had one season where he dropped 12.5% of passes thrown to him. 

    Saying front offices don't care about dropped passes is akin to saying MLB front offices don't care that there shortstop makes 40 errors a season. 

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #12

    @dutch-oven said:

    But, as shown above, he had one season where he dropped 12.5% of passes thrown to him. 

    Estimates vary... for same season PFY has his drop rate at about half that... besides 2018 is old news. His 2020 drop rate was 3.4 and Baker's QBR when targeting him was 110.

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  • U Unsympathetic wrote on
    #13

    Deal specifics released - 6.2 total, 4.6 guaranteed.  Far too much money - don't think once about this let alone twice.

    EDIT: This is Ogun's deal.. not Njoku's..

    "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
    Tour2maT 1 Reply
  • L LondonBrown

    @dutch-oven said:

    Is this a joke? 

    Nope. “He dropped three passes a year” 

    Front offices don’t care 

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #14

    @londonbrown said:

    Nope. “He dropped three passes a year” 

    Front offices don’t care 

    That's how you end up with Corey Coleman.

    ❤️ 😂
  • U Unsympathetic

    Deal specifics released - 6.2 total, 4.6 guaranteed.  Far too much money - don't think once about this let alone twice.

    EDIT: This is Ogun's deal.. not Njoku's..

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #15

    @unsympathetic said:

    Deal specifics released - 6.2 total, 4.6 guaranteed.  Far too much money - don't think once about this let alone twice.

    14th highest-paid TE in the league...

    Still paying for "potential", but I'm OK with it.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @dutch-oven said:

    But, as shown above, he had one season where he dropped 12.5% of passes thrown to him. 

    Estimates vary... for same season PFY has his drop rate at about half that... besides 2018 is old news. His 2020 drop rate was 3.4 and Baker's QBR when targeting him was 110.

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    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on
    #16

    @tour2ma said:

    Estimates vary... for same season PFY has his drop rate at about half that... besides 2018 is old news. His 2020 drop rate was 3.4 and Baker's QBR when targeting him was 110.

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    Which is why I said that by the end of the year he was all-around the best TE on the roster. 

    But saying that dropping balls isn't a big deal is, well, kind of silly. A person who says such things could very well be dubbed a "silly goose" or that they wear "silly pants". 

    😂
  • L LondonBrown wrote on
    #17

    I just think fans care about it a lot more than teams 

  • S SdBacker80 wrote on
    #18

    Njoku is going to be focused next season.  He wants to get paid.

    He was good last year- and he was fighting for PT.

    The first three years (when he was available) he had what appeared to be focus issues.  Missed blocks, holding calls (football IQ issues) and dropped passes.  He was the guy at the position and played with no urgency or focus. 
     

    Im fine with bringing him back as I think he plays with renewed purpose.  He should help us. 

  • S SdBacker80

    Njoku is going to be focused next season.  He wants to get paid.

    He was good last year- and he was fighting for PT.

    The first three years (when he was available) he had what appeared to be focus issues.  Missed blocks, holding calls (football IQ issues) and dropped passes.  He was the guy at the position and played with no urgency or focus. 
     

    Im fine with bringing him back as I think he plays with renewed purpose.  He should help us. 

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on
    #19

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Njoku is going to be focused next season.  He wants to get paid.

    He was good last year- and he was fighting for PT.

    The first three years (when he was available) he had what appeared to be focus issues.  Missed blocks, holding calls (football IQ issues) and dropped passes.  He was the guy at the position and played with no urgency or focus. 
     

    Im fine with bringing him back as I think he plays with renewed purpose.  He should help us. 

    Also, Hooper looked pretty 'meh' to me. Not horrible, but not very dynamic at all. 

  • L LondonBrown wrote on
    #20

    We definitely overpaid for Hooper 

  • L LondonBrown

    We definitely overpaid for Hooper 

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on
    #21

    @londonbrown said:

    We definitely overpaid for Hooper 

    And that's the problem - you almost always overpay for free agents. 

    Good thing the TE room is pretty deep, and I know there are more pressing areas, but I wouldn't mind a TE on Day 2. 

    Njoku is on his last year of his contract and Hooper is 'meh'. Bryant showed flashes, but hit the rookie wall at 100mph. (That's like 160kph or something to you).  

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