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  • @dutch-oven said:

     I definitely could see a trade up for an DE though. 

    If they don't sign Clowney then that is a possibility. It's imperative they add a pressure player to Myles if they want to be a super D. The question will be whether they want it at DT or Edge. And I don't pretend to read their minds on that, but I'm betting it's one or the other as our 1st rounder.

    @texasag1969 said:

    If they don't sign Clowney then that is a possibility. It's imperative they add a pressure player to Myles if they want to be a super D. The question will be whether they want it at DT or Edge. And I don't pretend to read their minds on that, but I'm betting it's one or the other as our 1st rounder.

    I'm not sure how adding Clowney solves the missing "pressure player to Myles" issue. He has all of 3 sacks in his last 21 games played. 

    Another wildcard position on defense is DTackle. I think they will have ONE DTackle under contract after this season. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    If they don't sign Clowney then that is a possibility. It's imperative they add a pressure player to Myles if they want to be a super D. The question will be whether they want it at DT or Edge. And I don't pretend to read their minds on that, but I'm betting it's one or the other as our 1st rounder.

    I'm not sure how adding Clowney solves the missing "pressure player to Myles" issue. He has all of 3 sacks in his last 21 games played. 

    Another wildcard position on defense is DTackle. I think they will have ONE DTackle under contract after this season. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm not sure how adding Clowney solves the missing "pressure player to Myles" issue. He has all of 3 sacks in his last 21 games played. 

    Another wildcard position on defense is DTackle. I think they will have ONE DTackle under contract after this season. 

     Clowney has had injury issues, but when healthy he can be outstanding. But no matter what happens there, possibly very versatile Zaven Collins LB/Edge from Tulsa might actually be the pick and very likely still there at 26. Had we not added Malik to the mix, I would have been going for Bama's Barmore at DT. And we may still if we are looking at long term.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I'm not sure how adding Clowney solves the missing "pressure player to Myles" issue. He has all of 3 sacks in his last 21 games played. 

    Another wildcard position on defense is DTackle. I think they will have ONE DTackle under contract after this season. 

     Clowney has had injury issues, but when healthy he can be outstanding. But no matter what happens there, possibly very versatile Zaven Collins LB/Edge from Tulsa might actually be the pick and very likely still there at 26. Had we not added Malik to the mix, I would have been going for Bama's Barmore at DT. And we may still if we are looking at long term.

    @texasag1969 said:

     Clowney has had injury issues, but when healthy he can be outstanding. But no matter what happens there, possibly very versatile Zaven Collins LB/Edge from Tulsa might actually be the pick and very likely still there at 26. Had we not added Malik to the mix, I would have been going for Bama's Barmore at DT. And we may still if we are looking at long term.

    There's a growing number of players I'm fine with at #26 for the Browns, which means none of them will be the selection. ?

  • Kwity Paye is terrific, but he won't be there at #26. If he fell close, the squealers would nab him first, after losing Dupree to

    Tennessee. I had hopes early on Collins would fall to the Browns, but not anymore. The squealers are at #24? The Browns have to trade up. Caleb Farley is a top 10-15 pick. Surtain is a top 10-15 pick. Kwity is a top 15 pick, probably the Cardinal's pick at #16. maybe.

    The Browns are not going to move up to sixteen - that would require a second round pick and another pick or two. If it was me deciding, I'd trade up to the 20th pick, or just ahead of the squealers... in a NY second.

  • I would think as soon as we make the call to move up, the Steelers match it and we lose out due to their pick being better placed ?

  • I would think as soon as we make the call to move up, the Steelers match it and we lose out due to their pick being better placed ?

    @londonbrown said:

    I would think as soon as we make the call to move up, the Steelers match it and we lose out due to their pick being better placed ?

    well, they might not have the time to make it happen, the trouble is, they only have one third round pick, two fourths. The Browns have two thirds and two fourths. It would be tougher for them to make the deal, plus at 20, they would have to pay more in value if they could even find a trade partner and make it happen in time. The trade would be during the draft I would figure.

  • The nice thing about interior pluggers is that you don't need them to be dominant and they can be found in the middle to late rounds.

    Gregg Gaines, Bravvion Roy, Poona Ford. All names I was high on found day 3.

  • The nice thing about interior pluggers is that you don't need them to be dominant and they can be found in the middle to late rounds.

    Gregg Gaines, Bravvion Roy, Poona Ford. All names I was high on found day 3.

    @tiamat63 said:

    The nice thing about interior pluggers is that you don't need them to be dominant and they can be found in the middle to late rounds.

    Gregg Gaines, Bravvion Roy, Poona Ford. All names I was high on found day 3.

    What names do you like this year?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    The nice thing about interior pluggers is that you don't need them to be dominant and they can be found in the middle to late rounds.

    Gregg Gaines, Bravvion Roy, Poona Ford. All names I was high on found day 3.

    What names do you like this year?

    @londonbrown said:

    What names do you like this year?

    Haven't watched any in depth (yet) to give an assessment I'd feel confident standing by.

    @texasag1969
    has me wanting to knock out Barrimore from Bama. But I saw one game of Nixon (Iowa) where I came away feeling like I was watching Michael Brockers.  Both the good and the bad.

  • The more I think about it, the more I can definitely see the Browns trading up to get a defensive player they love. I would think it would be a complementary pass rusher to Myles. 

    The Browns window for the Super Bowl is right now. They have their QB, and he's making peanuts this upcoming season.  

    Once he gets his huge contract, it will get much harder.

  • Meanwhile I'm over here still trying to get over the AUDACITY Cal had...   "watch film on him".

  • The more I think about it, the more I can definitely see the Browns trading up to get a defensive player they love. I would think it would be a complementary pass rusher to Myles. 

    The Browns window for the Super Bowl is right now. They have their QB, and he's making peanuts this upcoming season.  

    Once he gets his huge contract, it will get much harder.

    @dutch-oven said:

    The more I think about it, the more I can definitely see the Browns trading up to get a defensive player they love. I would think it would be a complementary pass rusher to Myles. 

    The Browns window for the Super Bowl is right now. They have their QB, and he's making peanuts this upcoming season.  

    Once he gets his huge contract, it will get much harder.

    I'm pretty much between DB, pass rusher or WR at this point.  

    The problem with a class like this on the edge, being so under-developed (IMHO) is that you really don't get the production you're hoping for until that magically year 3.    Meanwhile the Browns have a pretty damn good track record the past decade of drafting DB's that contribute immediately.  Haden, Ward, K'Waun (UDFA) Pep-Pep (to an extent) and Denzel.  

  • Meanwhile I'm over here still trying to get over the AUDACITY Cal had...   "watch film on him".

    @tiamat63 said:

    Meanwhile I'm over here still trying to get over the AUDACITY Cal had...   "watch film on him".

    I've heard his work over on the Political Forum is pure gold. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Meanwhile I'm over here still trying to get over the AUDACITY Cal had...   "watch film on him".

    I've heard his work over on the Political Forum is pure gold. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I've heard his work over on the Political Forum is pure gold. 

    Dude needs a psyche eval.  

    Also, fuck me apparently because I guess I just don't watch the film.

  • With what Berry has done so far in FA, I could see him trading down if his edge player (or LB'er) isn't there.  And then take a 2nd or 3rd tier rusher later.

    I expect him to draft an OT and a G.  

  • With what Berry has done so far in FA, I could see him trading down if his edge player (or LB'er) isn't there.  And then take a 2nd or 3rd tier rusher later.

    I expect him to draft an OT and a G.  

    @orion said:

    With what Berry has done so far in FA, I could see him trading down if his edge player (or LB'er) isn't there.  And then take a 2nd or 3rd tier rusher later.

    I expect him to draft an OT and a G.  

    Could see one or both in the mid rounds, for sure. 

    Bitonio has been around for a bit, and I'm not sure they can or will want to pay Teller big money to stay. Not sure both will be around a couple years from now.

    They might want to move on from Conklin in a year or two too... 

  • @tiamat63 @tour2ma 

    Kwity Paye's Pro Day numbers

    Height: 6-2

    Weight: 261

    Hand: 10 inches

    Wing: 78 4/8 inches

    Arm Length: 33 inches

    40-Yard Dash: 4.52 seconds

    Vertical Jump: 35 1/2 inches

    Broad Jump: 9-10

    3-Cone Drill: DNP

    Pro Agility: DNP

    60-Yard Shuttle: DNP

    Bench: 36 reps

    @mld-woody said:

    Height: 6-2

    Weight: 261 

    Arm Length: 33 inches

    Any 10-yd split numbers?

    In order... shorter, lighter and shorter than I'd have thought. Pretty clear he lightened up for his showing, but he looks longer in his tape.

    And apparently I'm not alone as in The Detroit News' report on TSUN's Pro Day included this right above the start of the measurements' list...

    "Kiper’s latest mock draft has the 6-foot4, 272-pound Paye as a No. 11 overall pick."

    I guess an adjustment period is in order... 😉

  • Meanwhile I'm over here still trying to get over the AUDACITY Cal had...   "watch film on him".

    @tiamat63 said:

    Meanwhile I'm over here still trying to get over the AUDACITY Cal had...   "watch film on him".

    your supreme egoness already bitched at NIckers for not kissing your "exaulted" ass. or was it Vambo?

    I just meant that I don't know if you watched the film on that particular player or not.

    There was zero intent to insult you.

    So, wannabe superalphamale, stick your feigned godlikeness - and have a nice day.

  • Kwity Paye is terrific, but he won't be there at #26. If he fell close, the squealers would nab him first, after losing Dupree to

    Tennessee. I had hopes early on Collins would fall to the Browns, but not anymore. The squealers are at #24? The Browns have to trade up. Caleb Farley is a top 10-15 pick. Surtain is a top 10-15 pick. Kwity is a top 15 pick, probably the Cardinal's pick at #16. maybe.

    The Browns are not going to move up to sixteen - that would require a second round pick and another pick or two. If it was me deciding, I'd trade up to the 20th pick, or just ahead of the squealers... in a NY second.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Kwity is a top 15 pick, probably the Cardinal's pick at #16. maybe. 

    @tour2ma said:

    "Kiper’s latest mock draft has the 6-foot4, 272-pound Paye as a No. 11 overall pick."

    I guess an adjustment period is in order... 

    I wasn't off-base about him. The Browns won't trade up that high - the cost would be ridiculous.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Meanwhile I'm over here still trying to get over the AUDACITY Cal had...   "watch film on him".

    your supreme egoness already bitched at NIckers for not kissing your "exaulted" ass. or was it Vambo?

    I just meant that I don't know if you watched the film on that particular player or not.

    There was zero intent to insult you.

    So, wannabe superalphamale, stick your feigned godlikeness - and have a nice day.

    @calfoxwc said:

    I just meant that I don't know if you watched the film on that particular player or not.

    DUDE, you were IN the thread.  The meat and potatoes were on page 10 with another post on 9.   You even replied to the thread.

    You know damn well I watched Jones. 

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